On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 12:08:01 +0100, gareth wrote:



Brian, M3OSN, Old Chum, that you are bitter about and pick fault with so
many other posters to the NGs, is it not perhaps indicative that if a
problem exists,
that that problem s closer to your own front gate?

Oh, the irony.

On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:38:59 -0400, rickman wrote:

On 9/15/2015 1:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:19:32 +0100, "gareth"
wrote:

Is it the purpose of this and other NGs merely to act as a forum for the
congenitally abusive duet from that corner of Kent to vent their spleens in
a crescendo of ever-increasing attention-seeking bile?

The purpose of the three cross posted newsgroups are to act as a stage
for you to act out your victim drama.

So why are you enabling?

Frustration. You may have missed what rec.radio.amateur.antenna was
like before he arrived. There were a fair collection of very
knowledgeable experts present, that were able to answer most
questions. There were also very interesting discussions, on such
things as fractal antennas and modeling. I was involved with several
people reverse engineering an MFJ-1800 antenna. I won't claim to be
anywhere near as knowledgeable as these people. I read, I learned, I
tried to answer a few questions, and I made a fool of myself
displaying my ignorance in a few areas.

Today, these people are gone or hiding. Nothing of any technical
interest has appeared for many months. We are now blessed with
discussions of quantum physics, which have no relevance to antenna
design. We are deluged with stupid questions by Gareth which rapidly
morph into discussions about the details of Gareth's perceived
persecutions. I have yet to see any calculations or real antennas.
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!activity/rec.radio.amateur.antenna/xnXlqNH1MAAJ

I just hate to see graffiti on a wall, garbage in the streets, and
Gareth in this newsgroup. Staying quiet hasn't worked, so I decided
it was worth one last try, which apparently has failed. Yes, I became
part of the problem, but I think it was worth the risk. Too bad it
didn't work.

I'm not sure what to next. I'll probably just resort to selectively
reading posts by those that I know are knowledgeable and have
something to offer. I also have a real live genuine antenna problem
that I can't solve. I'm not ready to post it yet, but soon.

What is the best way to handle this? Ignore him... no?

I don't know. Neither shoving a mirror in his face or ignoring him
seems to be working. My current solution is to simply add a filter to
Forte Agent newsreader, that reduces the number of acceptable cross
posted newsgroups from my current 3 to 1 for this group. Since Gareth
likes a large and unwilling audience for dramas, that should drop any
threads he originates.
http://www.forteinc.com/agent/faq.php#BAF8BFCB74FE9B17852571C0000D3065

No follow ups please. It's not worth the effort.

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On 9/16/2015 1:27 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:38:59 -0400, rickman wrote:

On 9/15/2015 1:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:19:32 +0100, "gareth"
wrote:

Is it the purpose of this and other NGs merely to act as a forum for the
congenitally abusive duet from that corner of Kent to vent their spleens in
a crescendo of ever-increasing attention-seeking bile?

The purpose of the three cross posted newsgroups are to act as a stage
for you to act out your victim drama.

So why are you enabling?

Frustration. You may have missed what rec.radio.amateur.antenna was
like before he arrived. There were a fair collection of very
knowledgeable experts present, that were able to answer most
questions. There were also very interesting discussions, on such
things as fractal antennas and modeling. I was involved with several
people reverse engineering an MFJ-1800 antenna. I won't claim to be
anywhere near as knowledgeable as these people. I read, I learned, I
tried to answer a few questions, and I made a fool of myself
displaying my ignorance in a few areas.

Today, these people are gone or hiding. Nothing of any technical
interest has appeared for many months. We are now blessed with
discussions of quantum physics, which have no relevance to antenna
design. We are deluged with stupid questions by Gareth which rapidly
morph into discussions about the details of Gareth's perceived
persecutions. I have yet to see any calculations or real antennas.
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!activity/rec.radio.amateur.antenna/xnXlqNH1MAAJ

I just hate to see graffiti on a wall, garbage in the streets, and
Gareth in this newsgroup. Staying quiet hasn't worked, so I decided
it was worth one last try, which apparently has failed. Yes, I became
part of the problem, but I think it was worth the risk. Too bad it
didn't work.

I'm not sure what to next. I'll probably just resort to selectively
reading posts by those that I know are knowledgeable and have
something to offer. I also have a real live genuine antenna problem
that I can't solve. I'm not ready to post it yet, but soon.

What is the best way to handle this? Ignore him... no?

I don't know. Neither shoving a mirror in his face or ignoring him
seems to be working. My current solution is to simply add a filter to
Forte Agent newsreader, that reduces the number of acceptable cross
posted newsgroups from my current 3 to 1 for this group. Since Gareth
likes a large and unwilling audience for dramas, that should drop any
threads he originates.
http://www.forteinc.com/agent/faq.php#BAF8BFCB74FE9B17852571C0000D3065

No follow ups please. It's not worth the effort.

Too long, didn't read...

--

Rick

Can I suggest people remove the moderation group when responding to
this thread.

One of Evans' ploys is to crosspost to unrelated groups to spread his
poison. No point in helping him.

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 13:51:25 -0400, rickman wrote:

Too long, didn't read...

"Sorry, but I didn't have time to make it shorter."
(Blaise Pascal, Mark Twain, and others).

"Nothing of importance has ever been said on one line"
(Me)

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

"Jeff Liebermann" wrote in message
...
There were also very interesting discussions, on such
things as fractal antennas and modeling.


Once again your post is a thinly-disguised vehicle for an infantile personal
attack, and
shame on you for that.

However, in the light of your comment above that I have quoted, why do you
not
find the discussions to be of interest that I introduce for two reasons,
firstly because
the points interest me , and secondly to enliven an almost-dead group?

I never originate any abusive remarks in the manner that you exhibit.

"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...

If you 'blank' him he throws a tantrum for a while but, if you just ignore
it, he eventually crawls away in a sulk. He comes back and you need to
repeat the process but it is worth it.

I have neither sulked, nor thrown a tantrum, unlilke you who
now has picked up the moniker from Cum as The Serial Question Avoider.

Once again, Brian, M3OSN, Old Chum, I ask you why every post of yours
is an abusive jibe and never relevant to the gentlemanly and technical
traditions
of amateur radio?

Why do you behave like that?

Brian Reay wrote:
rickman wrote:
On 9/15/2015 1:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:19:32 +0100, "gareth"
wrote:

Is it the purpose of this and other NGs merely to act as a forum for the
congenitally abusive duet from that corner of Kent to vent their spleens in
a crescendo of ever-increasing attention-seeking bile?

The purpose of the three cross posted newsgroups are to act as a stage
for you to act out your victim drama.

So why are you enabling?


Whether the responses are
sympathy, hostility, or technical doesn't matter because all you're
interested in is getting some attention, whether negative, positive,
or informative. Every single one of your postings have begun with a
personal insult, either to an individual or to the group, which seems
more appropriate to starting a bar room fight than a technical
discussion. You don't care about ham radio antennas because I suspect
you've never actually built or designed a working antenna.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_mentality
https://healthpsychologyconsultancy.wordpress.com/2012/10/26/the-victim-personality/

What is the best way to handle this? Ignore him... no?


Yes.

If you 'blank' him he throws a tantrum for a while but, if you just ignore
it, he eventually crawls away in a sulk. He comes back and you need to
repeat the process but it is worth it.

Do you remember how badly he lost his mind during Project Shun? He
positively soiled himself on a daily basis, so angry and upset he was at
being denied the attention he craves.

--
STC // M0TEY // twitter.com/ukradioamateur

"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...
Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:

Do you remember how badly he lost his mind during Project Shun? He
positively soiled himself on a daily basis, so angry and upset he was at
being denied the attention he craves.

Exactly, which is why it should be repeated.

I do not crave attention, and neither have I been angry or upset, but only
bemused by the pair of
you who spend all your time on Usenet seeking attention for yourselves by
venting your spleens.

"Jeff Liebermann" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:19:32 +0100, "gareth"
wrote:
Is it the purpose of this and other NGs merely to act as a forum for the
congenitally abusive duet from that corner of Kent to vent their spleens
in
a crescendo of ever-increasing attention-seeking bile?
The purpose of the three cross posted newsgroups are to act as a stage
for you to act out your victim drama. Whether the responses are
sympathy, hostility, or technical doesn't matter because all you're
interested in is getting some attention, whether negative, positive,
or informative. Every single one of your postings have begun with a
personal insult, either to an individual or to the group, which seems
more appropriate to starting a bar room fight than a technical
discussion. You don't care about ham radio antennas because I suspect
you've never actually built or designed a working antenna.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_mentality
https://healthpsychologyconsultancy.wordpress.com/2012/10/26/the-victim-personality/

Completely untrue and shame on you for promulgating the ill-feeling which I
proscribed.

However, you're right that I do not care for antennas, for it is antennae
that interest me.