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gareth September 15th 15 01:19 PM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
Is it the purpose of this and other NGs merely to act as a forum for the
congenitally abusive duet from that corner of Kent to vent their spleens in
a
crescendo of ever-increasing attention-seeking bile?

Neither of them seem to bear any relevance either to amateur radio or to
these NGs,
so why are they not only tolerated, but also encouraged by responding to
them?

One of them proposed a Project Shun, so perhaps now is the time for him
to reap what he has sown?




David Ryeburn[_2_] September 15th 15 05:42 PM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
In article ,
"gareth" wrote:

Is it the purpose of this


Depends upon what you mean by "this". Three newsgroups appeared in the
"Newsgroups:" header of your message, and will appear in the response I
am now making.

and other NGs merely to act as a forum for the
congenitally abusive duet from that corner of Kent to vent their spleens in
a crescendo of ever-increasing attention-seeking bile?


I subscribe to rec.radio.amateur.antenna, not the other newsgroups.
Until it got invaded by cross-posters from certain other groups, it USED
to contain mostly things about ANTENNAS. It was fun to read back then.

David, W8EZE 1949-1967 and VE7EZM + AF7BZ since 2013

--
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To send e-mail, change "netz" to "net"

gareth September 15th 15 05:58 PM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
"David Ryeburn" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"gareth" wrote:

Is it the purpose of this


Depends upon what you mean by "this". Three newsgroups appeared in the
"Newsgroups:" header of your message, and will appear in the response I
am now making.

and other NGs merely to act as a forum for the
congenitally abusive duet from that corner of Kent to vent their spleens
in
a crescendo of ever-increasing attention-seeking bile?


I subscribe to rec.radio.amateur.antenna, not the other newsgroups.
Until it got invaded by cross-posters from certain other groups, it USED
to contain mostly things about ANTENNAS. It was fun to read back then.

David, W8EZE 1949-1967 and VE7EZM + AF7BZ since 2013


Those of we who wish to discuss antennAE and related phenomena or noumena
are not invaders.



Jeff Liebermann[_2_] September 15th 15 06:21 PM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:19:32 +0100, "gareth"
wrote:

Is it the purpose of this and other NGs merely to act as a forum for the
congenitally abusive duet from that corner of Kent to vent their spleens in
a crescendo of ever-increasing attention-seeking bile?


The purpose of the three cross posted newsgroups are to act as a stage
for you to act out your victim drama. Whether the responses are
sympathy, hostility, or technical doesn't matter because all you're
interested in is getting some attention, whether negative, positive,
or informative. Every single one of your postings have begun with a
personal insult, either to an individual or to the group, which seems
more appropriate to starting a bar room fight than a technical
discussion. You don't care about ham radio antennas because I suspect
you've never actually built or designed a working antenna.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_mentality
https://healthpsychologyconsultancy.wordpress.com/2012/10/26/the-victim-personality/




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Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

[email protected] September 15th 15 06:22 PM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
In rec.radio.amateur.antenna gareth wrote:
"David Ryeburn" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"gareth" wrote:

Is it the purpose of this


Depends upon what you mean by "this". Three newsgroups appeared in the
"Newsgroups:" header of your message, and will appear in the response I
am now making.

and other NGs merely to act as a forum for the
congenitally abusive duet from that corner of Kent to vent their spleens
in
a crescendo of ever-increasing attention-seeking bile?


I subscribe to rec.radio.amateur.antenna, not the other newsgroups.
Until it got invaded by cross-posters from certain other groups, it USED
to contain mostly things about ANTENNAS. It was fun to read back then.

David, W8EZE 1949-1967 and VE7EZM + AF7BZ since 2013


Those of we who wish to discuss antennAE and related phenomena or noumena
are not invaders.


On this side of the pond, antennae are on insects and antennas are on
radios while noumena is the philosophy of Immanuel Kant.


--
Jim Pennino

Stephen Thomas Cole[_3_] September 15th 15 06:29 PM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
"gareth" wrote:
"David Ryeburn" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"gareth" wrote:

Is it the purpose of this


Depends upon what you mean by "this". Three newsgroups appeared in the
"Newsgroups:" header of your message, and will appear in the response I
am now making.

and other NGs merely to act as a forum for the
congenitally abusive duet from that corner of Kent to vent their spleens
in
a crescendo of ever-increasing attention-seeking bile?


I subscribe to rec.radio.amateur.antenna, not the other newsgroups.
Until it got invaded by cross-posters from certain other groups, it USED
to contain mostly things about ANTENNAS. It was fun to read back then.

David, W8EZE 1949-1967 and VE7EZM + AF7BZ since 2013


Those of we who wish to discuss antennAE and related phenomena or noumena
are not invaders.


You are a twaet, though, Gaereth.

--
STC // M0TEY // twitter.com/ukradioamateur

FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI September 15th 15 06:34 PM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
"gareth" wrote in message
...
"David Ryeburn" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"gareth" wrote:
Is it the purpose of this


Depends upon what you mean by "this". Three newsgroups appeared in the
"Newsgroups:" header of your message, and will appear in the response I
am now making.

and other NGs merely to act as a forum for the
congenitally abusive duet from that corner of Kent to vent their spleens
in a crescendo of ever-increasing attention-seeking bile?


I subscribe to rec.radio.amateur.antenna, not the other newsgroups.
Until it got invaded by cross-posters from certain other groups, it USED
to contain mostly things about ANTENNAS. It was fun to read back then.

David, W8EZE 1949-1967 and VE7EZM + AF7BZ since 2013


Those of we who wish to discuss antennAE and related phenomena or noumena
are not invaders.

Wrong again Beanie, antennae are attached to insects.
Of course in the case of a flea brain like you maybe there's an exception.
--
;-)
..
73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.
..
http://turner-smith.uk


rickman September 15th 15 06:38 PM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
On 9/15/2015 1:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:19:32 +0100, "gareth"
wrote:

Is it the purpose of this and other NGs merely to act as a forum for the
congenitally abusive duet from that corner of Kent to vent their spleens in
a crescendo of ever-increasing attention-seeking bile?


The purpose of the three cross posted newsgroups are to act as a stage
for you to act out your victim drama.


So why are you enabling?


Whether the responses are
sympathy, hostility, or technical doesn't matter because all you're
interested in is getting some attention, whether negative, positive,
or informative. Every single one of your postings have begun with a
personal insult, either to an individual or to the group, which seems
more appropriate to starting a bar room fight than a technical
discussion. You don't care about ham radio antennas because I suspect
you've never actually built or designed a working antenna.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_mentality
https://healthpsychologyconsultancy.wordpress.com/2012/10/26/the-victim-personality/


What is the best way to handle this? Ignore him... no?

--

Rick

gareth September 15th 15 06:45 PM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
"Jeff Liebermann" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:19:32 +0100, "gareth"
wrote:
Is it the purpose of this and other NGs merely to act as a forum for the
congenitally abusive duet from that corner of Kent to vent their spleens
in
a crescendo of ever-increasing attention-seeking bile?

The purpose of the three cross posted newsgroups are to act as a stage
for you to act out your victim drama. Whether the responses are
sympathy, hostility, or technical doesn't matter because all you're
interested in is getting some attention, whether negative, positive,
or informative. Every single one of your postings have begun with a
personal insult, either to an individual or to the group, which seems
more appropriate to starting a bar room fight than a technical
discussion. You don't care about ham radio antennas because I suspect
you've never actually built or designed a working antenna.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_mentality
https://healthpsychologyconsultancy.wordpress.com/2012/10/26/the-victim-personality/


Completely untrue and shame on you for promulgating the ill-feeling which I
proscribed.

However, you're right that I do not care for antennas, for it is antennae
that interest me.




gareth September 15th 15 06:47 PM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
"rickman" wrote in message
...

What is the best way to handle this? Ignore him... no?


Why on earth would you wish to ignore discussions that may go beyond
the current limits of your understanding?



Custos Custodum September 15th 15 06:50 PM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
"gareth" wrote in
:

"David Ryeburn" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"gareth" wrote:

Is it the purpose of this


Depends upon what you mean by "this". Three newsgroups appeared in
the "Newsgroups:" header of your message, and will appear in the
response I am now making.

and other NGs merely to act as a forum for the
congenitally abusive duet from that corner of Kent to vent their
spleens in
a crescendo of ever-increasing attention-seeking bile?


I subscribe to rec.radio.amateur.antenna, not the other newsgroups.
Until it got invaded by cross-posters from certain other groups, it
USED to contain mostly things about ANTENNAS. It was fun to read back
then.

David, W8EZE 1949-1967 and VE7EZM + AF7BZ since 2013


Those of we who wish to discuss antennAE and related phenomena or
noumena are not invaders.



Skitt strikes again!

Mike Tomlinson September 15th 15 07:03 PM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
En el artículo , Jeff
Liebermann escribió:

The purpose of the three cross posted newsgroups are to act as a stage
for you to act out your victim drama.


Exactly so.

Whether the responses are
sympathy, hostility, or technical doesn't matter because all you're
interested in is getting some attention


Exactly so.

, whether negative, positive,
or informative. Every single one of your postings have begun with a
personal insult


Exactly so.

, either to an individual or to the group, which seems
more appropriate to starting a bar room fight


Exactly so.

than a technical
discussion. You don't care about ham radio antennas because I suspect
you've never actually built or designed a working antenna.


Exactly so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_mentality
https://healthpsychologyconsultancy....26/the-victim-
personality/


You've summed up the uk.radio.amateur resident troll to a T.

Follow-ups set appropriately (but watch Evans unset them to feed his
need for attention.)

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Mike Tomlinson September 15th 15 07:05 PM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
En el artículo , rickman
escribió:

What is the best way to handle this? Ignore him... no?


Maybe you could take your own advice.

--
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(='.'=) Bunny says: Windows 10? Nein danke!
(")_(")

rickman September 15th 15 07:31 PM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
On 9/15/2015 2:05 PM, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artículo , rickman
escribió:

What is the best way to handle this? Ignore him... no?


Maybe you could take your own advice.


The posts I have been exchanging with Gareth have been civil and
technical, on both our parts. He did stop responding which is something
few of the argumentative posters have been able to achieve.

:P

--

Rick

gareth September 15th 15 09:11 PM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
"rickman" wrote in message
...
On 9/15/2015 2:05 PM, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artículo , rickman
escribió:

What is the best way to handle this? Ignore him... no?


Maybe you could take your own advice.


The posts I have been exchanging with Gareth have been civil and
technical, on both our parts. He did stop responding which is something
few of the argumentative posters have been able to achieve.


I stopped responding because IMHO you were repeating matters aready
discussed (and disagreed)



Irv Finkleman September 15th 15 09:36 PM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 


What is the best way to handle this? Ignore him... no?

YES!
As soon as someone responds to one of Gareth's posts the
fun begins. He starts a troll with an innocent question and
then goads the responders on and one. THE BEST SOLUTION IS
TO TOTALLY IGNORE HIM AND HIS POSTS.
MY 2 CENTS WORTH!

Irv VE6BP

gareth September 16th 15 12:20 AM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
"Irv Finkleman" wrote in message
...


What is the best way to handle this? Ignore him... no?

YES!
As soon as someone responds to one of Gareth's posts the
fun begins. He starts a troll with an innocent question and
then goads the responders on and one. THE BEST SOLUTION IS
TO TOTALLY IGNORE HIM AND HIS POSTS.
MY 2 CENTS WORTH!


That is completely untrue and I challenge you to put your money where
your mouth is and produce such a goad, for there are none whatsoever.



gareth September 16th 15 12:22 AM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...

If you 'blank' him he throws a tantrum for a while but, if you just ignore
it, he eventually crawls away in a sulk. He comes back and you need to
repeat the process but it is worth it.


I have neither sulked, nor thrown a tantrum, unlilke you who
now has picked up the moniker from Cum as The Serial Question Avoider.

Once again, Brian, M3OSN, Old Chum, I ask you why every post of yours
is an abusive jibe and never relevant to the gentlemanly and technical
traditions
of amateur radio?

Why do you behave like that?




Stephen Thomas Cole[_3_] September 16th 15 06:31 AM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
Brian Reay wrote:
rickman wrote:
On 9/15/2015 1:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:19:32 +0100, "gareth"
wrote:

Is it the purpose of this and other NGs merely to act as a forum for the
congenitally abusive duet from that corner of Kent to vent their spleens in
a crescendo of ever-increasing attention-seeking bile?

The purpose of the three cross posted newsgroups are to act as a stage
for you to act out your victim drama.


So why are you enabling?


Whether the responses are
sympathy, hostility, or technical doesn't matter because all you're
interested in is getting some attention, whether negative, positive,
or informative. Every single one of your postings have begun with a
personal insult, either to an individual or to the group, which seems
more appropriate to starting a bar room fight than a technical
discussion. You don't care about ham radio antennas because I suspect
you've never actually built or designed a working antenna.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_mentality
https://healthpsychologyconsultancy.wordpress.com/2012/10/26/the-victim-personality/


What is the best way to handle this? Ignore him... no?



Yes.

If you 'blank' him he throws a tantrum for a while but, if you just ignore
it, he eventually crawls away in a sulk. He comes back and you need to
repeat the process but it is worth it.


Do you remember how badly he lost his mind during Project Shun? He
positively soiled himself on a daily basis, so angry and upset he was at
being denied the attention he craves.

--
STC // M0TEY // twitter.com/ukradioamateur

rickman September 16th 15 06:37 AM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
On 9/15/2015 2:55 PM, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

He is a troll, pure and simple, and has been at it since 1997.


I won't argue that point one bit. But it is an effective troll only
because others argue with him rather than simply discuss. Most of those
who argue with him are actually being trolls themselves, not unlike a
group gathering around a fight cheering it on, being part of the reason
to fight in the first place.

--

Rick

rickman September 16th 15 06:38 AM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
On 9/15/2015 4:11 PM, gareth wrote:
"rickman" wrote in message
...
On 9/15/2015 2:05 PM, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artículo , rickman
escribió:

What is the best way to handle this? Ignore him... no?

Maybe you could take your own advice.


The posts I have been exchanging with Gareth have been civil and
technical, on both our parts. He did stop responding which is something
few of the argumentative posters have been able to achieve.


I stopped responding because IMHO you were repeating matters aready
discussed (and disagreed)


Disagreed with perhaps, but not successfully argued against.

--

Rick

Mike Tomlinson September 16th 15 09:25 AM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
En el artículo , rickman
escribió:

I won't argue that point one bit. But it is an effective troll only
because others argue with him


I never respond directly to him; the malicious old fool is in my
killfile. My posts are intended to inform others about his character,
history and motives, especially as he wrote to my employer insinuating I
was a paedophile in an attempt to have me sacked. He failed miserably,
by the way; they saw straight through his poison pen email for what it
was and laughed it off.

He's done a similar thing on several previous occasions, one of which
earned him a fine and a criminal conviction in court in October 2011 for
sending a malicious communication.

I agree with other posters who say the best tactic is simply not to rise
to his bait, because that is all he is doing: trolling to get a
reaction.

He's well known within the amateur radio community (for which he
laughably propounds to be an ambassador) for his activities on Usenet.

https://cqhq.wordpress.com/2011/10/2...ge-times-four/

http://www.laughingpoliceman.com/court_amateurs.htm

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gareth September 16th 15 10:07 AM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...
That describes him pretty well. He has a 'stock' of topics he recycles
questions on, although he has been forced to add to it recently as people
have started to ignore him. Likewise, he has a stock of standard insults,
some of which at really quite vile. Plus, if someone stands up to him, he
has contacted employers in the past with malicious, false, allegations- he
was successfully prosecuted after doing this several years ago.
Unfortunately, he has a few misguided supporters in uk.radio.amateur (who
are little better than him).
As for dealing with him, just ignore him. He will rant for a bit and then
go off and sulk. He will return, and the cycle will repeat. By his own
admission he is a 'slow learner' but he will eventually get the message.


Once again, Brian, M3OSN, Old Chum, your post is a tirade of false,
confabulated,
abusive rants that has nothing to do with the gentlemanly and technical
traditions of
amateur radio

Why do you behave like that?

It takes all sorts to make up the cadre of radio amateurs, and a concerted
hate campaign
of personal remarks against one person with whom you disagree really is out
of place.

So, why do you behave like that?

As to "a stock of standard insults", perhaps you would put your money where
your mouth is and
give examples of where I have been the originator of abusive exchanges?

No?

Strange that.




gareth September 16th 15 10:10 AM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
"rickman" wrote in message
...
On 9/15/2015 2:55 PM, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

He is a troll, pure and simple, and has been at it since 1997.


I won't argue that point one bit. But it is an effective troll only
because others argue with him rather than simply discuss. Most of those
who argue with him are actually being trolls themselves, not unlike a
group gathering around a fight cheering it on, being part of the reason to
fight in the first place.


And now, by resorting to personal attacks, you yourself become the troll

In the 21 years since 1994 that I have been a subscriber to amateur radio
NGs, there
has been neither any trolls, nor the origination of personal attacks by me.

(I see that Tomlinson's one-sided mentally-unhealthy obsession continues in
the back ground. As evidence of such, has Tomlinson offered any techncial
input to the discussions?)




gareth September 16th 15 10:11 AM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
"rickman" wrote in message
...

Disagreed with perhaps, but not successfully argued against.


Thank-you for your sincere admission of defeat.



gareth September 16th 15 10:12 AM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...
Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:

Do you remember how badly he lost his mind during Project Shun? He
positively soiled himself on a daily basis, so angry and upset he was at
being denied the attention he craves.


Exactly, which is why it should be repeated.


I do not crave attention, and neither have I been angry or upset, but only
bemused by the pair of
you who spend all your time on Usenet seeking attention for yourselves by
venting your spleens.




gareth September 16th 15 11:00 AM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
"gareth" wrote in message
...
"Irv Finkleman" wrote in message
...


What is the best way to handle this? Ignore him... no?

YES!
As soon as someone responds to one of Gareth's posts the
fun begins. He starts a troll with an innocent question and
then goads the responders on and one. THE BEST SOLUTION IS
TO TOTALLY IGNORE HIM AND HIS POSTS.
MY 2 CENTS WORTH!


That is completely untrue and I challenge you to put your money where
your mouth is and produce such a goad, for there are none whatsoever.


Irv?

Hullo?

Are you there, OM?



gareth September 16th 15 12:08 PM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...
Unfortunately, he has a few misguided supporters in uk.radio.amateur (who
are little better than him).


Brian, M3OSN, Old Chum, that you are bitter about and pick fault with so
many other
posters to the NGs, is it not perhaps indicative that if a problem exists,
that that problem
s closer to your own front gate?



gareth September 16th 15 02:00 PM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
"gareth" wrote in message
...

As to "a stock of standard insults", perhaps you would put your money
where your mouth is and
give examples of where I have been the originator of abusive exchanges?


Hullo?

Brian?


Are you there?



Bernie[_4_] September 16th 15 02:37 PM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 12:08:01 +0100, gareth wrote:



Brian, M3OSN, Old Chum, that you are bitter about and pick fault with so
many other posters to the NGs, is it not perhaps indicative that if a
problem exists,
that that problem s closer to your own front gate?


Oh, the irony.

Jerry Stuckle September 16th 15 03:09 PM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
On 9/16/2015 5:10 AM, gareth wrote:
"rickman" wrote in message
...
On 9/15/2015 2:55 PM, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

He is a troll, pure and simple, and has been at it since 1997.


I won't argue that point one bit. But it is an effective troll only
because others argue with him rather than simply discuss. Most of those
who argue with him are actually being trolls themselves, not unlike a
group gathering around a fight cheering it on, being part of the reason to
fight in the first place.


And now, by resorting to personal attacks, you yourself become the troll

In the 21 years since 1994 that I have been a subscriber to amateur radio
NGs, there
has been neither any trolls, nor the origination of personal attacks by me.


ROFLMAO! That's the funniest line I've heard this entire year! But
then delusional people actually believe things like this.

snip

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Kerr Mudd-John September 16th 15 05:51 PM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 15:09:15 +0100, Jerry Stuckle
wrote:

On 9/16/2015 5:10 AM, gareth wrote:
"rickman" wrote in message
...
On 9/15/2015 2:55 PM, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

He is a troll, pure and simple, and has been at it since 1997.

I won't argue that point one bit. But it is an effective troll only
because others argue with him rather than simply discuss. Most of
those
who argue with him are actually being trolls themselves, not unlike a
group gathering around a fight cheering it on, being part of the
reason to
fight in the first place.


And now, by resorting to personal attacks, you yourself become the troll

In the 21 years since 1994 that I have been a subscriber to amateur
radio
NGs, there
has been neither any trolls, nor the origination of personal attacks by
me.


ROFLMAO! That's the funniest line I've heard this entire year! But
then delusional people actually believe things like this.

snip


Oh dear, the loons are out again.


--
Bah, and indeed, Humbug

Jeff Liebermann[_2_] September 16th 15 06:27 PM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:38:59 -0400, rickman wrote:

On 9/15/2015 1:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:19:32 +0100, "gareth"
wrote:

Is it the purpose of this and other NGs merely to act as a forum for the
congenitally abusive duet from that corner of Kent to vent their spleens in
a crescendo of ever-increasing attention-seeking bile?


The purpose of the three cross posted newsgroups are to act as a stage
for you to act out your victim drama.


So why are you enabling?


Frustration. You may have missed what rec.radio.amateur.antenna was
like before he arrived. There were a fair collection of very
knowledgeable experts present, that were able to answer most
questions. There were also very interesting discussions, on such
things as fractal antennas and modeling. I was involved with several
people reverse engineering an MFJ-1800 antenna. I won't claim to be
anywhere near as knowledgeable as these people. I read, I learned, I
tried to answer a few questions, and I made a fool of myself
displaying my ignorance in a few areas.

Today, these people are gone or hiding. Nothing of any technical
interest has appeared for many months. We are now blessed with
discussions of quantum physics, which have no relevance to antenna
design. We are deluged with stupid questions by Gareth which rapidly
morph into discussions about the details of Gareth's perceived
persecutions. I have yet to see any calculations or real antennas.
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!activity/rec.radio.amateur.antenna/xnXlqNH1MAAJ

I just hate to see graffiti on a wall, garbage in the streets, and
Gareth in this newsgroup. Staying quiet hasn't worked, so I decided
it was worth one last try, which apparently has failed. Yes, I became
part of the problem, but I think it was worth the risk. Too bad it
didn't work.

I'm not sure what to next. I'll probably just resort to selectively
reading posts by those that I know are knowledgeable and have
something to offer. I also have a real live genuine antenna problem
that I can't solve. I'm not ready to post it yet, but soon.

What is the best way to handle this? Ignore him... no?


I don't know. Neither shoving a mirror in his face or ignoring him
seems to be working. My current solution is to simply add a filter to
Forte Agent newsreader, that reduces the number of acceptable cross
posted newsgroups from my current 3 to 1 for this group. Since Gareth
likes a large and unwilling audience for dramas, that should drop any
threads he originates.
http://www.forteinc.com/agent/faq.php#BAF8BFCB74FE9B17852571C0000D3065

No follow ups please. It's not worth the effort.

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D
http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

rickman September 16th 15 06:51 PM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
On 9/16/2015 1:27 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:38:59 -0400, rickman wrote:

On 9/15/2015 1:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:19:32 +0100, "gareth"
wrote:

Is it the purpose of this and other NGs merely to act as a forum for the
congenitally abusive duet from that corner of Kent to vent their spleens in
a crescendo of ever-increasing attention-seeking bile?

The purpose of the three cross posted newsgroups are to act as a stage
for you to act out your victim drama.


So why are you enabling?


Frustration. You may have missed what rec.radio.amateur.antenna was
like before he arrived. There were a fair collection of very
knowledgeable experts present, that were able to answer most
questions. There were also very interesting discussions, on such
things as fractal antennas and modeling. I was involved with several
people reverse engineering an MFJ-1800 antenna. I won't claim to be
anywhere near as knowledgeable as these people. I read, I learned, I
tried to answer a few questions, and I made a fool of myself
displaying my ignorance in a few areas.

Today, these people are gone or hiding. Nothing of any technical
interest has appeared for many months. We are now blessed with
discussions of quantum physics, which have no relevance to antenna
design. We are deluged with stupid questions by Gareth which rapidly
morph into discussions about the details of Gareth's perceived
persecutions. I have yet to see any calculations or real antennas.
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!activity/rec.radio.amateur.antenna/xnXlqNH1MAAJ

I just hate to see graffiti on a wall, garbage in the streets, and
Gareth in this newsgroup. Staying quiet hasn't worked, so I decided
it was worth one last try, which apparently has failed. Yes, I became
part of the problem, but I think it was worth the risk. Too bad it
didn't work.

I'm not sure what to next. I'll probably just resort to selectively
reading posts by those that I know are knowledgeable and have
something to offer. I also have a real live genuine antenna problem
that I can't solve. I'm not ready to post it yet, but soon.

What is the best way to handle this? Ignore him... no?


I don't know. Neither shoving a mirror in his face or ignoring him
seems to be working. My current solution is to simply add a filter to
Forte Agent newsreader, that reduces the number of acceptable cross
posted newsgroups from my current 3 to 1 for this group. Since Gareth
likes a large and unwilling audience for dramas, that should drop any
threads he originates.
http://www.forteinc.com/agent/faq.php#BAF8BFCB74FE9B17852571C0000D3065

No follow ups please. It's not worth the effort.


Too long, didn't read...

--

Rick

Brian Reay[_5_] September 16th 15 07:19 PM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
Can I suggest people remove the moderation group when responding to
this thread.

One of Evans' ploys is to crosspost to unrelated groups to spread his
poison. No point in helping him.



gareth September 16th 15 09:36 PM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...
Indeed, he seems to have been screaming for attention all day. No doubt he
will continue this evening.
Is it any wonder his vapourware projects never progress and he never
actually seems to improve his knowledge, beyond learning a few 'buzz
words' to initiate his goading threads. Such negative displacement
activity probably accounts for his failures.


Once again, Brian, M3OSN, Old Chum, the sole purpose of your post is to vent
your spleen
in a personal attack; an attack that is confabulated and false and that has
nothing to
do with amateur radio or to these NGs.

Why do you continue to behave in that manner that all grown-ups left behind
in the kindergarten school?



gareth September 16th 15 09:39 PM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
"Jeff Liebermann" wrote in message
...
There were also very interesting discussions, on such
things as fractal antennas and modeling.



Once again your post is a thinly-disguised vehicle for an infantile personal
attack, and
shame on you for that.

However, in the light of your comment above that I have quoted, why do you
not
find the discussions to be of interest that I introduce for two reasons,
firstly because
the points interest me , and secondly to enliven an almost-dead group?

I never originate any abusive remarks in the manner that you exhibit.



gareth September 16th 15 09:43 PM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...
Can I suggest people remove the moderation group when responding to this
thread.
One of Evans' ploys is to crosspost to unrelated groups to spread his
poison. No point in helping him.


Once again, Brian, M3OSN, Old Chum, your post is nobbut a vehicle for you to
vent your spleen
in confabulated and false personal attacks.

Why do you behave like that, in the manner of a 5-year-old in the
kindergarten playground?

Perhaps you failed to notice that my OP in this thread was very much to
criticise you in person for the very
reason that you illustrate above?

Have you nothing of relevance to these NG to contribute?






Jeff Liebermann[_2_] September 16th 15 09:52 PM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 13:51:25 -0400, rickman wrote:

Too long, didn't read...


"Sorry, but I didn't have time to make it shorter."
(Blaise Pascal, Mark Twain, and others).

"Nothing of importance has ever been said on one line"
(Me)

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D
http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

[email protected] September 16th 15 10:06 PM

What is the purpose of this and other NGs?
 
In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 13:51:25 -0400, rickman wrote:

Too long, didn't read...


"Sorry, but I didn't have time to make it shorter."
(Blaise Pascal, Mark Twain, and others).

"Nothing of importance has ever been said on one line"
(Me)


"The drinks are on the house."


--
Jim Pennino


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