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Old August 21st 04, 10:58 AM
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Let's try to summarise, and sort out some of the confusion:

* As Dale says, a mesh reflector is almost as efficient as a solid
surface of the same shape, even for hole sizes as large as 0.1wl.

* That was a side-track anyway, since the OP doesn't have a mesh wok.

* Any vaguely bowl-shaped reflector - including a wok - will make a big
improvement in cellphone performance, if you locate the cellphone at
the best possible place, line the whole thing up correctly, and manage
to keep your head out of the way.

* A paraboloid is the best shape for a reflector, because only a
paraboloid can focus all the incoming rays to a single point; and all
the incoming energy from a plane wavefront will arrive in-phase at the
focal point. This applies equally to light and radio waves. Optical
ray-tracing theory breaks down if the reflector is only a few
wavelengths in diameter, but a paraboloid is still the best practical
shape to aim for.


As Dale says, Arecibo uses a spherical reflector to allow a few degrees
of beam steering by pointing the feed antenna at different areas of the
dish. However, this is a very special case: the only practical way to
achieve a 1000ft dish was to build it immovably on the ground, so the
designers then had to find some other way to steer the beam, by moving
the feed antenna at the focus. In this one special case, the optimum
shape for the reflector is not a paraboloid but a sphere (because the
geometry of a sphere is the same in any direction, as seem from the
feedpoint at the centre).

The problem of course is that a sphere doesn't *have* a focal point - it
has a smeared-out focal line with phase variations along it. For many
years, long slotted-waveguide feeds were used to collect the available
energy from along this focal line, and to compensate for the phase
variations. By doing this, the Arecibo designers were able to achieve
similar efficiencies to a paraboloid of the same size, and with some
degree of steerability too. The limitation was that a different feed was
required for every frequency of operation, and this obviously restricted
the range of research.

With computer-aided design replacing 1950s slide-rules, Arecibo now has
a sub-reflector system of a very cunning shape that compensates for the
phase variations. Being a reflector it is not frequency-sensitive, and
it brings everything into focus at a conventional single-point feedhorn
which can be changed in relative comfort - that is, if anyone can feel
comfortable suspended out on cables, 500ft in mid-air...

Because Puerto Rico is quite close to the Equator, the Moon passes
overhead from time to time, and this allowed the Arecibo observatory to
do pioneering work on radar mapping of the Moon's surface. It also
turned out that the old 400MHz line feed would work reasonably well on
432MHz, and back in the old days there were occasional empty time-slots
when the dish would appear on EME. Sometime in the mid-1980s I had the
good fortune to work KP4I on what seems to have been the last
opportunity. He was LOUD.


(That's an outsider's view of Arecibo. Chip, please correct any
inaccuracies :-)




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Let's try to summarise, and sort out some of the confusion:

* As Dale says, a mesh reflector is almost as efficient as a solid
surface of the same shape, even for hole sizes as large as 0.1wl.

* That was a side-track anyway, since the OP doesn't have a mesh wok.

* Any vaguely bowl-shaped reflector - including a wok - will make a big
improvement in cellphone performance, if you locate the cellphone at
the best possible place, line the whole thing up correctly, and manage
to keep your head out of the way.

* A paraboloid is the best shape for a reflector, because only a
paraboloid can focus all the incoming rays to a single point; and all
the incoming energy from a plane wavefront will arrive in-phase at the
focal point. This applies equally to light and radio waves. Optical
ray-tracing theory breaks down if the reflector is only a few
wavelengths in diameter, but a paraboloid is still the best practical
shape to aim for.


As Dale says, Arecibo uses a spherical reflector to allow a few degrees
of beam steering by pointing the feed antenna at different areas of the
dish. However, this is a very special case: the only practical way to
achieve a 1000ft dish was to build it immovably on the ground, so the
designers then had to find some other way to steer the beam, by moving
the feed antenna at the focus. In this one special case, the optimum
shape for the reflector is not a paraboloid but a sphere (because the
geometry of a sphere is the same in any direction, as seem from the
feedpoint at the centre).


Basically correct. Although the tracking is better than just a few degrees:-)

Arecibo was initially designed to be a survellance instrument, passively
listening to Soviet communications through inadvertant moonbounce. It also was
designed, initially, as an ionospheric heating facility.

Through the huge luck of its overengineering, it was found to be able to track
quite accurately, and the feeds and carriage houses were designed to
accommodate a greater tracking range.

Today the site no longer has chicken wire (and hasn't for 30 years); and the
feeds are Gregorians that accommodate very large bandwidths and spectral
ranges. Most of the recent upgrades were funded by the NSF, and also the Seti
Institute.

73,
Chip N1IR
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Old August 21st 04, 02:37 PM
Ian White, G3SEK
 
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Fractenna wrote:
As Dale says, Arecibo uses a spherical reflector to allow a few degrees
of beam steering by pointing the feed antenna at different areas of the
dish. However, this is a very special case: the only practical way to
achieve a 1000ft dish was to build it immovably on the ground, so the
designers then had to find some other way to steer the beam, by moving
the feed antenna at the focus. In this one special case, the optimum
shape for the reflector is not a paraboloid but a sphere (because the
geometry of a sphere is the same in any direction, as seem from the
feedpoint at the centre).


Basically correct. Although the tracking is better than just a few
degrees:-)

Thanks for the correction - I hadn't realised it can steer up to 40 deg.
A Google search for "arecibo feed" produced that information, and much
more.

Nice pictures of the 43MHz feed at:
http://tinyurl.com/64cp9
and
http://tinyurl.com/69sa3
Against the dish itself, it's easy to lose your sense of scale - that
little thing is 90ft tall.


Arecibo was initially designed to be a survellance instrument,
passively listening to Soviet communications through inadvertant
moonbounce. It also was designed, initially, as an ionospheric heating
facility.

Through the huge luck of its overengineering, it was found to be able
to track quite accurately, and the feeds and carriage houses were
designed to accommodate a greater tracking range.


The official history (http://tinyurl.com/46zfd) is less forthcoming
about the original intentions, but there's an interesting "40 years ago"
article at
http://www.elecdesign.com/Articles/A...3700/3700.html



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Old August 21st 04, 03:57 PM
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The official history (http://tinyurl.com/46zfd) is less forthcoming
about the original intentions


Correct.

73,
Chip N1IR
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