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![]() Let's try to summarise, and sort out some of the confusion: * As Dale says, a mesh reflector is almost as efficient as a solid surface of the same shape, even for hole sizes as large as 0.1wl. * That was a side-track anyway, since the OP doesn't have a mesh wok. * Any vaguely bowl-shaped reflector - including a wok - will make a big improvement in cellphone performance, if you locate the cellphone at the best possible place, line the whole thing up correctly, and manage to keep your head out of the way. * A paraboloid is the best shape for a reflector, because only a paraboloid can focus all the incoming rays to a single point; and all the incoming energy from a plane wavefront will arrive in-phase at the focal point. This applies equally to light and radio waves. Optical ray-tracing theory breaks down if the reflector is only a few wavelengths in diameter, but a paraboloid is still the best practical shape to aim for. As Dale says, Arecibo uses a spherical reflector to allow a few degrees of beam steering by pointing the feed antenna at different areas of the dish. However, this is a very special case: the only practical way to achieve a 1000ft dish was to build it immovably on the ground, so the designers then had to find some other way to steer the beam, by moving the feed antenna at the focus. In this one special case, the optimum shape for the reflector is not a paraboloid but a sphere (because the geometry of a sphere is the same in any direction, as seem from the feedpoint at the centre). The problem of course is that a sphere doesn't *have* a focal point - it has a smeared-out focal line with phase variations along it. For many years, long slotted-waveguide feeds were used to collect the available energy from along this focal line, and to compensate for the phase variations. By doing this, the Arecibo designers were able to achieve similar efficiencies to a paraboloid of the same size, and with some degree of steerability too. The limitation was that a different feed was required for every frequency of operation, and this obviously restricted the range of research. With computer-aided design replacing 1950s slide-rules, Arecibo now has a sub-reflector system of a very cunning shape that compensates for the phase variations. Being a reflector it is not frequency-sensitive, and it brings everything into focus at a conventional single-point feedhorn which can be changed in relative comfort - that is, if anyone can feel comfortable suspended out on cables, 500ft in mid-air... Because Puerto Rico is quite close to the Equator, the Moon passes overhead from time to time, and this allowed the Arecibo observatory to do pioneering work on radar mapping of the Moon's surface. It also turned out that the old 400MHz line feed would work reasonably well on 432MHz, and back in the old days there were occasional empty time-slots when the dish would appear on EME. Sometime in the mid-1980s I had the good fortune to work KP4I on what seems to have been the last opportunity. He was LOUD. (That's an outsider's view of Arecibo. Chip, please correct any inaccuracies :-) -- 73 from Ian G3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB) http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek |
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![]() Let's try to summarise, and sort out some of the confusion: * As Dale says, a mesh reflector is almost as efficient as a solid surface of the same shape, even for hole sizes as large as 0.1wl. * That was a side-track anyway, since the OP doesn't have a mesh wok. * Any vaguely bowl-shaped reflector - including a wok - will make a big improvement in cellphone performance, if you locate the cellphone at the best possible place, line the whole thing up correctly, and manage to keep your head out of the way. * A paraboloid is the best shape for a reflector, because only a paraboloid can focus all the incoming rays to a single point; and all the incoming energy from a plane wavefront will arrive in-phase at the focal point. This applies equally to light and radio waves. Optical ray-tracing theory breaks down if the reflector is only a few wavelengths in diameter, but a paraboloid is still the best practical shape to aim for. As Dale says, Arecibo uses a spherical reflector to allow a few degrees of beam steering by pointing the feed antenna at different areas of the dish. However, this is a very special case: the only practical way to achieve a 1000ft dish was to build it immovably on the ground, so the designers then had to find some other way to steer the beam, by moving the feed antenna at the focus. In this one special case, the optimum shape for the reflector is not a paraboloid but a sphere (because the geometry of a sphere is the same in any direction, as seem from the feedpoint at the centre). Basically correct. Although the tracking is better than just a few degrees:-) Arecibo was initially designed to be a survellance instrument, passively listening to Soviet communications through inadvertant moonbounce. It also was designed, initially, as an ionospheric heating facility. Through the huge luck of its overengineering, it was found to be able to track quite accurately, and the feeds and carriage houses were designed to accommodate a greater tracking range. Today the site no longer has chicken wire (and hasn't for 30 years); and the feeds are Gregorians that accommodate very large bandwidths and spectral ranges. Most of the recent upgrades were funded by the NSF, and also the Seti Institute. 73, Chip N1IR |
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Fractenna wrote:
As Dale says, Arecibo uses a spherical reflector to allow a few degrees of beam steering by pointing the feed antenna at different areas of the dish. However, this is a very special case: the only practical way to achieve a 1000ft dish was to build it immovably on the ground, so the designers then had to find some other way to steer the beam, by moving the feed antenna at the focus. In this one special case, the optimum shape for the reflector is not a paraboloid but a sphere (because the geometry of a sphere is the same in any direction, as seem from the feedpoint at the centre). Basically correct. Although the tracking is better than just a few degrees:-) Thanks for the correction - I hadn't realised it can steer up to 40 deg. A Google search for "arecibo feed" produced that information, and much more. Nice pictures of the 43MHz feed at: http://tinyurl.com/64cp9 and http://tinyurl.com/69sa3 Against the dish itself, it's easy to lose your sense of scale - that little thing is 90ft tall. Arecibo was initially designed to be a survellance instrument, passively listening to Soviet communications through inadvertant moonbounce. It also was designed, initially, as an ionospheric heating facility. Through the huge luck of its overengineering, it was found to be able to track quite accurately, and the feeds and carriage houses were designed to accommodate a greater tracking range. The official history (http://tinyurl.com/46zfd) is less forthcoming about the original intentions, but there's an interesting "40 years ago" article at http://www.elecdesign.com/Articles/A...3700/3700.html -- 73 from Ian G3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB) http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek |
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The official history (http://tinyurl.com/46zfd) is less forthcoming
about the original intentions Correct. 73, Chip N1IR |
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