The little holes in PL259
 

What's the solution to soldering through to the underlying braid in a PL259
if the only
soldering iron small enough to engage the holes is a low-power jobbie?

Perchance the solution lies in using a junior hacksaw to make a slot between
two of the holes
so the big iron can get in there?

This is for an outdoors connection, so I want to ensure that it is sound.

The little holes in PL259
 

In rec.radio.amateur.antenna gareth wrote:
What's the solution to soldering through to the underlying braid in a PL259
if the only
soldering iron small enough to engage the holes is a low-power jobbie?

Buy or borrow tools appropriate to the task.


--
Jim Pennino

The little holes in PL259
 

"gareth" wrote in
:

What's the solution to soldering through to the underlying
braid in a PL259 if the only
soldering iron small enough to engage the holes is a
low-power jobbie?

Perchance the solution lies in using a junior hacksaw to
make a slot between two of the holes
so the big iron can get in there?

This is for an outdoors connection, so I want to ensure
that it is sound.




Use a butane torch instead.

The little holes in PL259
 

On 10/14/2015 1:42 PM, gareth wrote:
What's the solution to soldering through to the underlying braid in a PL259
if the only
soldering iron small enough to engage the holes is a low-power jobbie?

Perchance the solution lies in using a junior hacksaw to make a slot between
two of the holes
so the big iron can get in there?

This is for an outdoors connection, so I want to ensure that it is sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPlcT9SXNPs

also this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYrv0z63ov8

--

Rick

The little holes in PL259
 

gareth wrote:
What's the solution to soldering through to the underlying braid in a PL259
if the only
soldering iron small enough to engage the holes is a low-power jobbie?

Perchance the solution lies in using a junior hacksaw to make a slot between
two of the holes
so the big iron can get in there?

This is for an outdoors connection, so I want to ensure that it is sound.


I use a Weller pencil iron. I tin the braid on
the coax before inserting it into the fitting. You can
use the big iron to tin the areas around those little
holes before you do anything. It doesn't hurt to
sand the area around them first. When the braid is tinned,
and the fitting is tinned, it doesn't take much of an
iron to get the solder flowing through the little hole
and onto the braid.

Irv VE6BP

The little holes in PL259
 

"gareth" wrote:
What's the solution to soldering through to the underlying braid in a PL259
if the only
soldering iron small enough to engage the holes is a low-power jobbie?

Perchance the solution lies in using a junior hacksaw to make a slot between
two of the holes
so the big iron can get in there?

This is for an outdoors connection, so I want to ensure that it is sound.

Gareth Alun Evans G4SDW, four decade plus radio amateur, lifelong pursuer
of "technical excellence", and "polymath".

Jesus wept.

--
STC // M0TEY // twitter.com/ukradioamateur

The little holes in PL259
 

wrote in message
...
In rec.radio.amateur.antenna gareth wrote:
What's the solution to soldering through to the underlying braid in a
PL259
if the only
soldering iron small enough to engage the holes is a low-power jobbie?

Buy or borrow tools appropriate to the task.


That is the way to do it. Get a big soldering iron that will really put the
heat to it. I have used a Weller soldering gun in the past, but now use a
100 watt iron. I bought a used one at a hamfest. I think you can get some
at the Hobby Lobby store if in the US. They sell them to people that make
things out of leaded glass sort of like the old church windows.

Switch to the silver type connectors as they solder beter. If still using
the plated brass ones, take a file and cut the plating back to the brass
where you want to solder. Putting a little liquid flux on sometimes helps,
especially if the braid is all copper and not tinned.

I just about quit soldering connectors. Bought a crimp tool and crimping
them on now. You can get a crimping tool for around $ 20 and the connectors
are aboout the same or less in cost.

The little holes in PL259
 

Ralph Mowery wrote:

wrote in message
...
In rec.radio.amateur.antenna gareth wrote:
What's the solution to soldering through to the underlying braid in a
PL259
if the only
soldering iron small enough to engage the holes is a low-power jobbie?

Buy or borrow tools appropriate to the task.


That is the way to do it. Get a big soldering iron that will really put the
heat to it. I have used a Weller soldering gun in the past, but now use a
100 watt iron. I bought a used one at a hamfest. I think you can get some
at the Hobby Lobby store if in the US. They sell them to people that make
things out of leaded glass sort of like the old church windows.


An old Solon, ex BT, iron is ideal, I think they are about 50W but the key
thing is they have a decent sized bit. That means a good thermal mass to
get the plug up to temp. quickly.

In the UK, fitting a Coax plug is part of the Intermediate licence and I
teach the following method, especially for RG213 etc. Strip the PVC jacket.
Using the plug as a guide, decide which area of the braid will be under the
holes. Tin the braid, using a bit of liquid flux. The tinning must be very
light. Using a pipe cutter and the plug as a guide, cut the surplus braid
away. The tinning ensures a neat cut with no stray 'whiskers'. Next, trim
away the inner insulation, about 2mm beyond the tinned braid.

You should now be able to assemble the plug and see the inner emerge from
the centre pin and the tinned braid through the holes. A small amount of
liquid flux around the holes and solder, with a decent sized iron, and you
will get a good connection. Solder the inner.

I've taught countless Intermediates this technique, including my daughters
when they were about 10 or so. After all, fitting a 259 is a basic skill.
Anyone who claims to be a home brewer should surely be able to do it.
As for having a soldering iron large enough, it is the kind of thing I
would expect an active model engineer to have- if someone needed to borrow
one.

The little holes in PL259
 

On 10/14/2015 3:08 PM, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
"gareth" wrote:
What's the solution to soldering through to the underlying braid in a PL259
if the only
soldering iron small enough to engage the holes is a low-power jobbie?

Perchance the solution lies in using a junior hacksaw to make a slot between
two of the holes
so the big iron can get in there?

This is for an outdoors connection, so I want to ensure that it is sound.

Gareth Alun Evans G4SDW, four decade plus radio amateur, lifelong pursuer
of "technical excellence", and "polymath".

Jesus wept.

This was a nice little discussion until you showed up. What is your
intent exactly?

--

Rick

The little holes in PL259
 

Brian Reay wrote in :

Ralph Mowery wrote:

wrote in message
...
In rec.radio.amateur.antenna gareth
wrote:
What's the solution to soldering through to the underlying braid in
a PL259
if the only
soldering iron small enough to engage the holes is a low-power
jobbie?

Buy or borrow tools appropriate to the task.


That is the way to do it. Get a big soldering iron that will really
put the heat to it. I have used a Weller soldering gun in the past,
but now use a 100 watt iron. I bought a used one at a hamfest. I
think you can get some at the Hobby Lobby store if in the US. They
sell them to people that make things out of leaded glass sort of like
the old church windows.


An old Solon, ex BT, iron is ideal, I think they are about 50W but the
key thing is they have a decent sized bit. That means a good thermal
mass to get the plug up to temp. quickly.

Mine was 65W, IIRC. Haven't seen it for a while; I think it's out in the
garage. And yes, they are polarised. I can remember holding and staring
at something I was about to solder and reaching out for the iron without
looking. Picked it up by the wrong end. You only do that once!

The little holes in PL259
 

Custos Custodum wrote:
Brian Reay wrote in :

Ralph Mowery wrote:

wrote in message
...
In rec.radio.amateur.antenna gareth
wrote:
What's the solution to soldering through to the underlying braid in
a PL259
if the only
soldering iron small enough to engage the holes is a low-power
jobbie?

Buy or borrow tools appropriate to the task.


That is the way to do it. Get a big soldering iron that will really
put the heat to it. I have used a Weller soldering gun in the past,
but now use a 100 watt iron. I bought a used one at a hamfest. I
think you can get some at the Hobby Lobby store if in the US. They
sell them to people that make things out of leaded glass sort of like
the old church windows.


An old Solon, ex BT, iron is ideal, I think they are about 50W but the
key thing is they have a decent sized bit. That means a good thermal
mass to get the plug up to temp. quickly.

Mine was 65W, IIRC. Haven't seen it for a while; I think it's out in the
garage. And yes, they are polarised. I can remember holding and staring
at something I was about to solder and reaching out for the iron without
looking. Picked it up by the wrong end. You only do that once!




While I have certainly suffered my share of soldering iron burns, I don't
recall grabbing one by the wrong end- probably due to always using a stand
or holder, at least since the days of replacing my Remploy iron which I was
given when I was about 11. If you don't know the Remploy, it had a
triangular section on the handle which kept the hot end clear of the bench.
I regret no longer having the Remploy.

The ex-BT iron came with an insulated clip on pot-like holder. I was told
these were designed to clip to the old telephone exchange racks.

The little holes in PL259
 

"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...

Brian, a largely unhelpful tirade from you in which the only relevant bit,
and not in itself
helpful is your comment, "solder, with a decent sized iron". However, as
must be apparent to
all your readership, your reply, as always, is a thinly disguised vehicle to
make
several personal remarks.

Why do you continue to behave as does a 5-year-old on a daily basis?

Shame on you.


Ralph Mowery wrote:

wrote in message
...
In rec.radio.amateur.antenna gareth wrote:
What's the solution to soldering through to the underlying braid in a
PL259
if the only
soldering iron small enough to engage the holes is a low-power jobbie?

Buy or borrow tools appropriate to the task.


That is the way to do it. Get a big soldering iron that will really put
the
heat to it. I have used a Weller soldering gun in the past, but now use
a
100 watt iron. I bought a used one at a hamfest. I think you can get
some
at the Hobby Lobby store if in the US. They sell them to people that
make
things out of leaded glass sort of like the old church windows.


An old Solon, ex BT, iron is ideal, I think they are about 50W but the key
thing is they have a decent sized bit. That means a good thermal mass to
get the plug up to temp. quickly.

In the UK, fitting a Coax plug is part of the Intermediate licence and I
teach the following method, especially for RG213 etc. Strip the PVC
jacket.
Using the plug as a guide, decide which area of the braid will be under
the
holes. Tin the braid, using a bit of liquid flux. The tinning must be very
light. Using a pipe cutter and the plug as a guide, cut the surplus braid
away. The tinning ensures a neat cut with no stray 'whiskers'. Next, trim
away the inner insulation, about 2mm beyond the tinned braid.

You should now be able to assemble the plug and see the inner emerge from
the centre pin and the tinned braid through the holes. A small amount of
liquid flux around the holes and solder, with a decent sized iron, and you
will get a good connection. Solder the inner.

I've taught countless Intermediates this technique, including my daughters
when they were about 10 or so. After all, fitting a 259 is a basic skill.
Anyone who claims to be a home brewer should surely be able to do it.
As for having a soldering iron large enough, it is the kind of thing I
would expect an active model engineer to have- if someone needed to borrow
one.

The little holes in PL259
 

"rickman" wrote in message
...
On 10/14/2015 3:08 PM, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
"gareth" wrote:
What's the solution to soldering through to the underlying braid in a
PL259
if the only
soldering iron small enough to engage the holes is a low-power jobbie?

Perchance the solution lies in using a junior hacksaw to make a slot
between
two of the holes
so the big iron can get in there?

This is for an outdoors connection, so I want to ensure that it is
sound.

Gareth Alun Evans G4SDW, four decade plus radio amateur, lifelong pursuer
of "technical excellence", and "polymath".

Jesus wept.

This was a nice little discussion until you showed up. What is your
intent exactly?


+1

The little holes in PL259
 

"gareth" wrote in message
...
What's the solution to soldering through to the underlying braid in a
PL259 if the only
soldering iron small enough to engage the holes is a low-power jobbie?

Perchance the solution lies in using a junior hacksaw to make a slot
between two of the holes
so the big iron can get in there?

This is for an outdoors connection, so I want to ensure that it is sound.


.... and thereby hangs a tale ...


I have a large soldering iron which has proved to be dangerous in use,
because the
bit falls out and could not be resolved, until, that is, this morning when I
relaised that
if I jammed some hook-up wire into the hole in parallel with the bit then
the problem
could be resolved.

Result; one soldered PL259

Must close now because my aerail rigger is due in half an hour, but thanks
for all the
positively social hints and tips!


And the moral of this story? ... _NEVER_ buy any tools with the "Draper"
brand.

The little holes in PL259
 

"rickman" wrote in message
...
On 10/14/2015 3:08 PM, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
"gareth" wrote:
What's the solution to soldering through to the underlying braid in a
PL259
if the only
soldering iron small enough to engage the holes is a low-power jobbie?

Perchance the solution lies in using a junior hacksaw to make a slot
between
two of the holes
so the big iron can get in there?

This is for an outdoors connection, so I want to ensure that it is
sound.

Gareth Alun Evans G4SDW, four decade plus radio amateur, lifelong pursuer
of "technical excellence", and "polymath".

Jesus wept.

This was a nice little discussion until you showed up. What is your
intent exactly?


Rick

wrecking as usual...Someone who knows him told me he was running a book on
the demise of the sick Scottish nurse.......

The little holes in PL259
 

"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...

"rickman" wrote in message
...
On 10/14/2015 3:08 PM, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
"gareth" wrote:
What's the solution to soldering through to the underlying braid in a
PL259
if the only
soldering iron small enough to engage the holes is a low-power jobbie?

Perchance the solution lies in using a junior hacksaw to make a slot
between
two of the holes
so the big iron can get in there?

This is for an outdoors connection, so I want to ensure that it is
sound.

Gareth Alun Evans G4SDW, four decade plus radio amateur, lifelong
pursuer
of "technical excellence", and "polymath".

Jesus wept.

This was a nice little discussion until you showed up. What is your
intent exactly?


Rick

wrecking as usual...Someone who knows him told me he was running a book on
the demise of the sick Scottish nurse.......

A survey of the posts from STC over the past 3 years will find nothing of
value,
even a confusion between sidetone and sideband,
but hundreds of gratuitously abusive remarks; remarks for which someone
described
him as a narcissistic sociopath.

The little holes in PL259
 

"gareth" wrote in message
...
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...

"rickman" wrote in message
...
On 10/14/2015 3:08 PM, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
"gareth" wrote:
What's the solution to soldering through to the underlying braid in a
PL259
if the only
soldering iron small enough to engage the holes is a low-power jobbie?

Perchance the solution lies in using a junior hacksaw to make a slot
between
two of the holes
so the big iron can get in there?

This is for an outdoors connection, so I want to ensure that it is
sound.

Gareth Alun Evans G4SDW, four decade plus radio amateur, lifelong
pursuer
of "technical excellence", and "polymath".

Jesus wept.

This was a nice little discussion until you showed up. What is your
intent exactly?


Rick

wrecking as usual...Someone who knows him told me he was running a book
on the demise of the sick Scottish nurse.......

A survey of the posts from STC over the past 3 years will find nothing of
value,
even a confusion between sidetone and sideband,
but hundreds of gratuitously abusive remarks; remarks for which someone
described
him as a narcissistic sociopath.




which he is ....

The little holes in PL259
 

"gareth" wrote:
"rickman" wrote in message
...
On 10/14/2015 3:08 PM, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
"gareth" wrote:
What's the solution to soldering through to the underlying braid in a
PL259
if the only
soldering iron small enough to engage the holes is a low-power jobbie?

Perchance the solution lies in using a junior hacksaw to make a slot
between
two of the holes
so the big iron can get in there?

This is for an outdoors connection, so I want to ensure that it is
sound.

Gareth Alun Evans G4SDW, four decade plus radio amateur, lifelong pursuer
of "technical excellence", and "polymath".

Jesus wept.

This was a nice little discussion until you showed up. What is your
intent exactly?


+1

Was the PL259's manual missing the relevant pages, Gareth?

--
STC // M0TEY // twitter.com/ukradioamateur

The little holes in PL259
 

"gareth" wrote:
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...

"rickman" wrote in message
...
On 10/14/2015 3:08 PM, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
"gareth" wrote:
What's the solution to soldering through to the underlying braid in a
PL259
if the only
soldering iron small enough to engage the holes is a low-power jobbie?

Perchance the solution lies in using a junior hacksaw to make a slot
between
two of the holes
so the big iron can get in there?

This is for an outdoors connection, so I want to ensure that it is
sound.

Gareth Alun Evans G4SDW, four decade plus radio amateur, lifelong
pursuer
of "technical excellence", and "polymath".

Jesus wept.

This was a nice little discussion until you showed up. What is your
intent exactly?


Rick

wrecking as usual...Someone who knows him told me he was running a book on
the demise of the sick Scottish nurse.......

A survey of the posts from STC over the past 3 years will find nothing of
value,
even a confusion between sidetone and sideband,
but hundreds of gratuitously abusive remarks; remarks for which someone
described
him as a narcissistic sociopath.

Gotten to.

--
STC // M0TEY // twitter.com/ukradioamateur

The little holes in PL259
 

On 10/14/2015 7:23 PM, rickman wrote:
On 10/14/2015 3:08 PM, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
"gareth" wrote:
What's the solution to soldering through to the underlying braid in a
PL259
if the only
soldering iron small enough to engage the holes is a low-power jobbie?

Perchance the solution lies in using a junior hacksaw to make a slot
between
two of the holes
so the big iron can get in there?

This is for an outdoors connection, so I want to ensure that it is
sound.

Gareth Alun Evans G4SDW, four decade plus radio amateur, lifelong pursuer
of "technical excellence", and "polymath".

Jesus wept.

This was a nice little discussion until you showed up. What is your
intent exactly?


Didn't you suggest that I resist replying to such posts? Shame on you
for your hypocrisy.

The little holes in PL259
 

On 15/10/2015 09:09, gareth wrote:
"gareth" wrote in message
...
What's the solution to soldering through to the underlying braid in a
PL259 if the only
soldering iron small enough to engage the holes is a low-power jobbie?

Perchance the solution lies in using a junior hacksaw to make a slot
between two of the holes
so the big iron can get in there?

This is for an outdoors connection, so I want to ensure that it is sound.


.... and thereby hangs a tale ...


I have a large soldering iron which has proved to be dangerous in use,
because the
bit falls out and could not be resolved, until, that is, this morning when I
relaised that
if I jammed some hook-up wire into the hole in parallel with the bit then
the problem
could be resolved.

Result; one soldered PL259

Must close now because my aerail rigger is due in half an hour, but thanks
for all the
positively social hints and tips!


And the moral of this story? ... _NEVER_ buy any tools with the "Draper"
brand.




If you really must use them you can now obtain compression fit UHF
connectors from most good suppliers. Far more reliable than buggering
about with big soldering irons and much quicker to apply. For an example
see ebay item 290800326125.

--
Mouse.
Where Morse meets House.

The little holes in PL259
 

A. non Eyemouse wrote:
On 15/10/2015 09:09, gareth wrote:
"gareth" wrote in message
...
What's the solution to soldering through to the underlying braid in a
PL259 if the only
soldering iron small enough to engage the holes is a low-power jobbie?

Perchance the solution lies in using a junior hacksaw to make a slot
between two of the holes
so the big iron can get in there?

This is for an outdoors connection, so I want to ensure that it is sound.


.... and thereby hangs a tale ...


I have a large soldering iron which has proved to be dangerous in use,
because the
bit falls out and could not be resolved, until, that is, this morning when I
relaised that
if I jammed some hook-up wire into the hole in parallel with the bit then
the problem
could be resolved.

Result; one soldered PL259

Must close now because my aerail rigger is due in half an hour, but thanks
for all the
positively social hints and tips!


And the moral of this story? ... _NEVER_ buy any tools with the "Draper"
brand.




If you really must use them you can now obtain compression fit UHF
connectors from most good suppliers. Far more reliable than buggering
about with big soldering irons and much quicker to apply. For an example
see ebay item 290800326125.

Right!
I recently bought one for a short jumper cable to adapt from PL-259
to N female (and have some flexibility at the same time) and those
connectors not only are much easier to fit but also connect much more
reliably.

2m colinear (Was : The little holes in PL259)
 

"gareth" wrote in message
...

Must close now because my aerail rigger is due in half an hour, but thanks
for all the
positively social hints and tips!

We got the colinear down, but how does one get to the SO239 to remove the
feeder?

I don't know its make, because I got it 2nd hand about 12 years ago at the
Flight Refuelling
rally.

It's about 8 feet long, and a the bottom are 3 little radials about 18
inches long. As far as I can
remember, one should remove the stub pole from the bottom to access the
SO239, but therein is the problem.

We had the Stilson wrench, and any number of plumber's grippers, but it
won't budge, even after the
application of WD40 and the the gas blowlamp (and there's an interesting
thing, I'd not used the blowlamp for
about 20 years and Lo! and Behold! it has a soldering iron attachment
exactly right for the original PL259
problem (shame facedly) )

Any ideas, apart from sawing the stub to bits and replacing it with other
aluminium tube?

YES!!!! We did remove the little nut that fixeth the stub pole :-)

The little holes in PL259
 

"A. non Eyemouse" wrote in message
...

If you really must use them you can now obtain compression fit UHF
connectors from most good suppliers. Far more reliable than buggering
about with big soldering irons and much quicker to apply. For an example
see ebay item 290800326125.

You forget that the Mongolian Hordes hold that I am a penniless failure, but
like
all abusive children, they are reckless as to the source of their gleeful
insults, for example,
I have never blown up an FT101E.

The little holes in PL259
 

"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...

Once again, there is your infsntile sneer.

Why do you behave like that, Brian?


Anyone who struggles to master the fitting of a solder 259 correctly
probably shouldn't go delving into a bit of equipment to change an SO239.

The little holes in PL259
 

"gareth" wrote in message
...
A survey of the posts from STC over the past 3 years will find nothing of
value,
even a confusion between sidetone and sideband,
but hundreds of gratuitously abusive remarks; remarks for which someone
described
him as a narcissistic sociopath.

And being a sociopath, he will not be consciously aware of the manner in
which
his behaviour is seen as aggressive and destructive, and in response to any
criticism will
latch on to that criticism as the attention that he so desperatey seeks by a
further issue
of abusive remarks.

The little holes in PL259
 

"gareth" wrote in message
...
"gareth" wrote in message
...
A survey of the posts from STC over the past 3 years will find nothing of
value, even a confusion between sidetone and sideband,
but hundreds of gratuitously abusive remarks; remarks for which someone
described him as a narcissistic sociopath.

And being a sociopath, he will not be consciously aware of the manner in
which his behaviour is seen as aggressive and destructive, and in response
to any criticism will latch on to that criticism as the attention that he
so desperatey seeks by a further issue of abusive remarks.



More "Freudian Projection" on your part, old Bean?
--
;-)
..
73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.
..
http://turner-smith.uk

2m colinear (Was : The little holes in PL259)
 

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 13:50:21 +0100, "gareth"
wrote:

"gareth" wrote in message
...

Must close now because my aerail rigger is due in half an hour, but thanks
for all the
positively social hints and tips!

We got the colinear down, but how does one get to the SO239 to remove the
feeder?

I don't know its make, because I got it 2nd hand about 12 years ago at the
Flight Refuelling
rally.

It's about 8 feet long, and a the bottom are 3 little radials about 18
inches long. As far as I can
remember, one should remove the stub pole from the bottom to access the
SO239, but therein is the problem.

We had the Stilson wrench, and any number of plumber's grippers, but it
won't budge, even after the
application of WD40 and the the gas blowlamp (and there's an interesting
thing, I'd not used the blowlamp for
about 20 years and Lo! and Behold! it has a soldering iron attachment
exactly right for the original PL259
problem (shame facedly) )

Any ideas, apart from sawing the stub to bits and replacing it with other
aluminium tube?

YES!!!! We did remove the little nut that fixeth the stub pole :-)



May well be corrosion welded! A few sharp taps with a hammer might
help !!

2m colinear (Was : The little holes in PL259)
 

Rambo wrote:
A few sharp taps with a hammer might
help !!

Perhaps we might suggest same to Gareth's doctor?

--
STC // M0TEY // twitter.com/ukradioamateur

The little holes in PL259
 

On 15/10/2015 12:22, Rob wrote:
A. non Eyemouse wrote:

If you really must use them [PL259s]you can now obtain compression fit UHF
connectors from most good suppliers. Far more reliable than buggering
about with big soldering irons and much quicker to apply. For an example
see ebay item 290800326125.

Right!

WHS

The Napoleonic work-creation employed in getting candidate licence
holders to solder PL259s roughly equates to making the potential user of
an MP3 player get a certificate of competence in how to use wind-up
gramophones, but with rather more H&S risks involved. IOW, it's as
ridiculous as making them wire a mains plug, when all they'll do is buy
factory-made gear that has by law for the last 25 years had to have a
mains plug pre-fitted. Perhaps it's something to do with the M3-popular
4kW 'burners'.

Rather than all this farting and flapping about with the totally
unnecessary, it'd be easier and cheaper to get a HAREC from, say, the
IRTS single-sitting single exam. A UK (Reciprocal) Full licence obtained
on the strength of it is indistinguishable over the air from any other
UK Full licence.

I recently bought one for a short jumper cable to adapt from PL-259
to N female (and have some flexibility at the same time) and those
connectors not only are much easier to fit but also connect much more
reliably.


--
Spike

"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's
character, give him power" - Abraham Lincoln

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"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message
...


In case anybody was in any doubt, Tomlinson's real character has surfaced
....


En el artículo , A. non
Eyemouse escribió:

A _real_radio amateur would have no trouble putting on a PL259 with one
hand whilst using the other to carry out a CW QSO with JT1 on Top Band.

and using the third hand to have a wank while reading the replies to his
trolling on Usenet.

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"gareth" wrote:
"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message
...


In case anybody was in any doubt, Tomlinson's real character has surfaced


Tell us again about that time you made the "double dickhead" hand gesture
at another road user who you then tried to reverse ram. Weren't you issued
a Police Notice Of Intended Prosecution in relation to that incident? What
was the outcome, OM? Points and fine or a driving ban?

--
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:24:17 +0100, gareth wrote:

In case anybody was in any doubt, Tomlinson's real character has
surfaced ...


Have you ever bean anally probed by aliens, Gareth?

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"gareth" wrote:
"gareth" wrote in message
...
"gareth" wrote in message
...
A survey of the posts from STC over the past 3 years will find nothing of
value,
even a confusion between sidetone and sideband,
but hundreds of gratuitously abusive remarks; remarks for which someone
described
him as a narcissistic sociopath.

And being a sociopath, he will not be consciously aware of the manner in
which
his behaviour is seen as aggressive and destructive, and in response to
any criticism will
latch on to that criticism as the attention that he so desperatey seeks by
a further issue
of abusive remarks.

QED

NIP?

--
STC // M0TEY // twitter.com/ukradioamateur

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"gareth" wrote in message
...
"gareth" wrote in message
...
A survey of the posts from STC over the past 3 years will find nothing of
value,
even a confusion between sidetone and sideband,
but hundreds of gratuitously abusive remarks; remarks for which someone
described
him as a narcissistic sociopath.

And being a sociopath, he will not be consciously aware of the manner in
which
his behaviour is seen as aggressive and destructive, and in response to
any criticism will
latch on to that criticism as the attention that he so desperatey seeks by
a further issue
of abusive remarks.

QED

2m colinear (Was : The little holes in PL259)
 

"gareth" wrote in message
...
"gareth" wrote in message
...
Must close now because my aerail rigger is due in half an hour, but
thanks for all the
positively social hints and tips!
We got the colinear down, but how does one get to the SO239 to remove the
feeder?
I don't know its make, because I got it 2nd hand about 12 years ago at the
Flight Refuelling
rally.
It's about 8 feet long, and a the bottom are 3 little radials about 18
inches long. As far as I can
remember, one should remove the stub pole from the bottom to access the
SO239, but therein is the problem.
We had the Stilson wrench, and any number of plumber's grippers, but it
won't budge, even after the
application of WD40 and the the gas blowlamp (and there's an interesting
thing, I'd not used the blowlamp for
about 20 years and Lo! and Behold! it has a soldering iron attachment
exactly right for the original PL259
problem (shame facedly) )
Any ideas, apart from sawing the stub to bits and replacing it with other
aluminium tube?
YES!!!! We did remove the little nut that fixeth the stub pole :-)

The solution is going to have to be no solution, and that is, in moving the
co-linear from the top of the 14MHz vertical, is to move it with the current
PL259 / SO239 connection intact and dig up the feeder cable where
it had been cemented over by the gardener's (SWMBO !!!!) creation of
stone steps to the door of her greenhouse, thereby risking the wrath of the
gods, even
though all would be put back after a couple of days. Imagine the furore when
I said that I wanted
a 16mm narrow gauge railway all around the lawn, even though after 5 years
it has become
weathered and part of the scenery.

Thanks to all those decent civilised grownups who contributed to an
interesting thread, but as for the
rest of chronically childish and gratuitously abusive attention seekers;
well!

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On 10/15/2015 3:42 PM, Bernie wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:24:17 +0100, gareth wrote:

In case anybody was in any doubt, Tomlinson's real character has
surfaced ...


Have you ever bean anally probed by aliens, Gareth?


They tried, but they couldn't get the probe past his head.

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Bernie wrote in
:

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:24:17 +0100, gareth wrote:

In case anybody was in any doubt, Tomlinson's real
character has surfaced ...


Have you ever bean anally probed by aliens, Gareth?


Gareth anally probes sheep.

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On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:23:35 -0400, rickman wrote:

This was a nice little discussion until you showed up. What is your
intent exactly?

How about 'To turn uk.r.a. into a cesspit.' ?

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On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:23:35 -0400, rickman wrote:

This was a nice little discussion until you showed up. What is your
intent exactly?

Are you surprised though?