Amateur Radio contribution on 9/11/2001
 

I have a BBC audio file (17M, about 28 minutes) on amateur radio operations
in NYC my website for anyone interested.

--

John Harper AE5X
Outdoor QRP: http://www.ae5x.com

How so? It's on topic. If this is the one I'm thinking of, it is a recording
of a BBC radio spot on the role of amateur radio operations during the World
Trade Center emergency.

"Bill Turner" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 20:14:28 GMT, "John Harper AE5X"
wrote:

I have a BBC audio file (17M, about 28 minutes) on amateur radio
operations
in NYC my website for anyone interested.

__________________________________________________ _______

Spam.

--
Bill W6WRT

The link is broken.

"John Harper AE5X" wrote in message
. net...
I have a BBC audio file (17M, about 28 minutes) on amateur radio
operations
in NYC my website for anyone interested.

--

John Harper AE5X
Outdoor QRP: http://www.ae5x.com

As there is not a rec.radio.news.articles.about.radio and radio is of
interest to most people here (apparently, not to you. What do you use your
antennas for, decoration?) it fits here a damn site better than on
alt.candlemaking. Thanks for your response. I had a spot in my bozo bin that
needed filling. You'll fit nicely.

"Bill Turner" wrote in message
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On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 09:24:29 -0700, "CW" no adddress@spam free.com
wrote:

How so? It's on topic. If this is the one I'm thinking of, it is a
recording
of a BBC radio spot on the role of amateur radio operations during the
World
Trade Center emergency.

__________________________________________________ _______

On topic? Check the group name again. Find the word "antenna". If not
familiar with same, look it up. Compose scathing reply. Delete it.

--
Bill W6WRT

Can't something be done about the erroneous date format?

In the English-speaking world, it should read, "11/9/2001"

"Airy R. Bean" wrote in message
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Can't something be done about the erroneous date format?

In the English-speaking world, it should read, "11/9/2001"



We who speak the most English make the rules.

It has always been "month-day-year" in the United States of America.

Jack

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 18:31:22 +0100, "Airy R. Bean"
wrote:

Can't something be done about the erroneous date format?

In the English-speaking world, it should read, "11/9/2001"


Eh? When was the last time Tony Blair talked about the events of
"11-9"?

Bob
k5qwg

"see sea oh ecks at you aitch see dot comm"
wrote

Jack Painter wrote:
We who speak the most English make the rules.

It has always been "month-day-year" in the United States of America.

Oh yes - we forgot that there are more American English speakers in
the world than English speakers.

Not!
--
Chris Cox, N0UK/G4JEC NIC Handle: CC345

In fact, there are few countries, and Britain is definitely not one of them,
that teach or speak proper English. It is a language butchered in
pronounciation by all that England influenced, and was only corrected in
teaching and pronounciation in America. We speak English, not an adaptation
of it. If your understanding of this fact is lacking, there are many places
for you to correct your deficiency, but it will not be here.

73,

Jack

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:38:15 -0400, "Jack Painter"
wrote:

We speak English, not an adaptation
of it

I beg to differ!

I don't think the word "Hi" is English yet it's the ubiquitous
greeting in the US (and unfortunately over here in the UK also).
Why do Americans write "meter" for "metre", " thru" for "through",
"dove" for "dived" , "I've gotten" for " I've got", etc, etc?
Somehow I don't think the Pilgrim Fathers brought all that over from
the Old Country!

Americans speak American and we speak English ... 'nuff said!

Peter, G3PHO

"Peter" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:38:15 -0400, "Jack Painter"
wrote:

We speak English, not an adaptation
of it

I beg to differ!

I don't think the word "Hi" is English yet it's the ubiquitous
greeting in the US (and unfortunately over here in the UK also).
Why do Americans write "meter" for "metre", " thru" for "through",
"dove" for "dived" , "I've gotten" for " I've got", etc, etc?
Somehow I don't think the Pilgrim Fathers brought all that over from
the Old Country!

Americans speak American and we speak English ... 'nuff said!


I recommend Bill Bryson's book "Made in America"- a very readable account of
how American English has developed, with bits of the development of English
English thrown in.

Even in England, English usuage isn't universal. At least, after nearly 28
years in "the south", I still speak proper English ;-)

(Drifting off topic...........)

--
Brian Reay
www.g8osn.org.uk
www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk
FP#898

No, they have made many improvements over the years.

"Brian Reay" wrote in message
news:2qmhh7F11fi6gU1@uni- Somehow I don't think the Pilgrim Fathers
brought all that over from
the Old Country!

Yanklanders are not English Speakers.

In any case, what is all the fuss about? Yankland
regularly invades other countries and subjects their
populations to airborne death. What's sauce for the
gander, etc.

"Jack Painter" wrote in message
news:YZk1d.220679$Lj.194476@fed1read03...
"Airy R. Bean" wrote in message
...
Can't something be done about the erroneous date format?
In the English-speaking world, it should read, "11/9/2001"
We who speak the most English make the rules.
It has always been "month-day-year" in the United States of America.

Nobody trusts anything that Tony B.Liar comes out with
unless they have an independently verifiable source of info.

"Bob Miller" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 18:31:22 +0100, "Airy R. Bean"
wrote:

Can't something be done about the erroneous date format?

In the English-speaking world, it should read, "11/9/2001"


Eh? When was the last time Tony Blair talked about the events of
"11-9"?

Bob
k5qwg

But your obsession with bestiality owes more to Yankland than
it does to Britland.

"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...
I recommend Bill Bryson's book "Made in America"- a very readable account
of
how American English has developed, with bits of the development of
English
English thrown in.

Even in England, English usuage isn't universal. At least, after nearly 28
years in "the south", I still speak proper English ;-)

(Drifting off topic...........)

--
Brian Reay
www.g8osn.org.uk
www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk
FP#898

"Airy R. Bean" wrote in message
...
But your obsession with bestiality owes more to Yankland than
it does to Britland.


Still smarting from you last lost argument with Dr Reay? I guess you've lost
count of them.

"Airy R. Bean" wrote in message
...
Yanklanders are not English Speakers.

In any case, what is all the fuss about? Yankland
regularly invades other countries and subjects their
populations to airborne death. What's sauce for the
gander, etc.


For anyone who may be interested in the real identity of Airy Bean- look up
G4SDW.

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:25:11 +0100, "Brian Reay"
wrote:

Even in England, English usuage isn't universal. At least, after nearly 28
years in "the south", I still speak proper English ;-)


Why Aye man!!

Brian Reay wrote:
Even in England, English usuage isn't universal. At least, after nearly 28
years in "the south", I still speak proper English ;-)

Yup, wanna amble over yonder directly, down some suds, and cogitate?


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ISO is international and covers French, German, Spanish, Swedish,
Norwegian, Russian, Chinese, Japanese, Turkish, Yiddish, etc, etc.


The English standard, which is the subject of this thread, is 11/9/2001

"Bill Turner" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 18:31:22 +0100, "Airy R. Bean"
wrote:
In the English-speaking world, it should read, "11/9/2001"
The ISO standard is 20040911. Largest time unit first (year) then next
largest (month) then smallest (day). One advantage to this format is
computers can sort dates as a simple number without any special
programming.
This can be continued with hours, minutes and seconds if desired.
If the world were a rational place, this would become universal
overnight.

The logical way would be 2001/09/11, but the only place I've actually
been where they do dates that way is Taiwan.

Alan NV8A


On 09/13/04 01:31 pm Airy R. Bean put fingers to keyboard and launched
the following message into cyberspace:

Can't something be done about the erroneous date format?

In the English-speaking world, it should read, "11/9/2001"

In message Wyn1d.43162$Ka6.15258@okepread03, Jack Painter
writes

"see sea oh ecks at you aitch see dot comm"
wrote

Jack Painter wrote:
We who speak the most English make the rules.

It has always been "month-day-year" in the United States of America.

Oh yes - we forgot that there are more American English speakers in
the world than English speakers.

Not!
--
Chris Cox, N0UK/G4JEC NIC Handle: CC345

In fact, there are few countries, and Britain is definitely not one of them,
that teach or speak proper English. It is a language butchered in
pronounciation by all that England influenced, and was only corrected in
teaching and pronounciation in America. We speak English, not an adaptation
of it. If your understanding of this fact is lacking, there are many places
for you to correct your deficiency, but it will not be here.

73,

Jack



There ain't no word 'pronounciation' - even in American.
Ian.
--

In message , Peter
writes
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:38:15 -0400, "Jack Painter"
wrote:

We speak English, not an adaptation
of it

I beg to differ!

I don't think the word "Hi" is English yet it's the ubiquitous
greeting in the US (and unfortunately over here in the UK also).
Why do Americans write "meter" for "metre", " thru" for "through",
"dove" for "dived" , "I've gotten" for " I've got", etc, etc?
Somehow I don't think the Pilgrim Fathers brought all that over from
the Old Country!

Americans speak American and we speak English ... 'nuff said!

Peter, G3PHO

'Hi' is Scandinavian.
Ian.
--

We speak English, not an adaptation
of it


I beg to differ!

Americans speak American and we speak English ... 'nuff said!

Peter, G3PHO

'Corse, IF you know MORSE (both American and Continental), you would
realize that the Ham "HI" is a contraction from the MORSE for "HEE"
..... .. from .... . . ! As is much of morse! Like e s for "and",
the origination for that was the AMERICAN MORSE sign for the symbol "&" !
And much more shorthand in it from a time that messages were charged for
by the LETTER, or WORD ! and for your info, two shortest messages were
(from a correspondant wanting to know about the sale of his book/article, )
sent the message "?" (without the quotes)! The reply (from the publisher)
was "!" (again without the quotes)!! As info, Jim NN7K

On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 23:33:37 GMT, "NN7Kex(NOSPAM)k7zfg"
wrote:

two shortest messages were
(from a correspondant wanting to know about the sale of his book/article, )
sent the message "?" (without the quotes)! The reply (from the publisher)
was "!" (again without the quotes)!

Hi Jim,

Dumas.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

"Ian Jackson" wrote

Jack Painter writes
In fact, there are few countries, and Britain is definitely not one of
them,
that teach or speak proper English. It is a language butchered in
pronounciation by all that England influenced, and was only corrected in
teaching and pronounciation in America. We speak English, not an
adaptation
of it. If your understanding of this fact is lacking, there are many
places
for you to correct your deficiency, but it will not be here.

73,

Jack

There ain't no word 'pronounciation' - even in American.
Ian.
--


A product of your country's public school system , eh?

Jack

You omitted a comma.

ITYM, "However, I doubt if many
of their inmates pronounce, 'pronunciation' correctly.".

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...
However, I doubt if many
of their inmates pronounce 'pronunciation' correctly.

No I didn't. Why would you want to put a comma between the verb and the
object? Absolute twaddle!
And stop top posting!
Ian.

In message , Airy R. Bean
writes
You omitted a comma.

ITYM, "However, I doubt if many
of their inmates pronounce, 'pronunciation' correctly.".

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...
However, I doubt if many
of their inmates pronounce 'pronunciation' correctly.



--

On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 17:00:40 +0100, "Airy R. Bean"
wrote:
You omitted a comma.
ITYM, "However, I doubt if many of their inmates pronounce, 'pronunciation' correctly.".
This addition suffers from the misapplication of a comma as a
substitute for the pause in speech - that, or it is entirely out of
place. Either way its addition is in error. The redundant period at
the end is also in error. The comma after the ITYM is awkward at
best.

Hi OM,

The "however" is set off from the rest of the sentence because it is a
transitional adverb. Contemporary usage would allow it to stand or
not be used since the sentence is short. By adding the second comma,
you render " I doubt if many of their inmates pronounce" as a
non-restrictive clause. This means that its absence would not alter
the sense of the sentence. This is obviously not the case above.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

In some ways, it's a pity that english is becoming the world language.

--
KC6ETE Dave's Engineering Page, www.dvanhorn.org
Microcontroller Consultant, specializing in Atmel AVR

On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 12:21:37 -0500, "Dave VanHorn"
wrote:
In some ways, it's a pity that english is becoming the world language.

Hi Dave,

The greater pity will come when it is not, and a nation of English
speaking Americans are the step-and-fetchits working for the Chinese
as waiters, launderers or field slaves. Coming as soon as Nov. 2.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

You put a comma before a quote.

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...
No I didn't. Why would you want to put a comma between the verb and the
object? Absolute twaddle!
And stop top posting!
Ian.

In message , Airy R. Bean
writes
You omitted a comma.

ITYM, "However, I doubt if many
of their inmates pronounce, 'pronunciation' correctly.".

"Ian Jackson" wrote in
message
...
However, I doubt if many
of their inmates pronounce 'pronunciation' correctly.



--

It is not a pause in speech. It is correct grammar.

Also, the comma after, "ITYM" is equally as correct grammar.
Both introduce the quoted text.

The full stop, not a, "period" for English-speakers, at the end
of the sentence is not redundant. It marked the end of my sentence.

"Richard Clark" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 17:00:40 +0100, "Airy R. Bean"
wrote:
You omitted a comma.
ITYM, "However, I doubt if many of their inmates pronounce,
'pronunciation' correctly.".
This addition suffers from the misapplication of a comma as a
substitute for the pause in speech - that, or it is entirely out of
place. Either way its addition is in error. The redundant period at
the end is also in error. The comma after the ITYM is awkward at
best.

Hi OM,

The "however" is set off from the rest of the sentence because it is a
transitional adverb. Contemporary usage would allow it to stand or
not be used since the sentence is short. By adding the second comma,
you render " I doubt if many of their inmates pronounce" as a
non-restrictive clause. This means that its absence would not alter
the sense of the sentence. This is obviously not the case above.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:26:54 +0100, "Airy R. Bean"
wrote:

It is not a pause in speech. It is correct grammar.

Also, the comma after, "ITYM" is equally as correct grammar.
Both introduce the quoted text.

The full stop, not a, "period" for English-speakers, at the end
of the sentence is not redundant. It marked the end of my sentence.


Hi OM,

All presumptions.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

The greater pity will come when it is not, and a nation of English
speaking Americans are the step-and-fetchits working for the Chinese
as waiters, launderers or field slaves. Coming as soon as Nov. 2.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

While I have no trouble believing that someone is working twoard this, you
might remember what we were told about how Russia was working to take over
here.. Turned out that they were being told that we were trying to take them
over, and they were doing what they thought they had to do for self
defence..

I've been there, and they are by and large, "guys like us".

--
KC6ETE Dave's Engineering Page, www.dvanhorn.org
Microcontroller Consultant, specializing in Atmel AVR

A comma essentially indicates a pause - and there certainly wasn't any
pause in this case.
Is you native language German or Dutch? I think that you might be more
correct in those languages.
Anyway, this is getting boring, and is seriously off-topic, so I'm going
to shut up and think sweet thoughts about antennas.
Ian.

In message , Airy R. Bean
writes
You put a comma before a quote.

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...
No I didn't. Why would you want to put a comma between the verb and the
object? Absolute twaddle!
And stop top posting!
Ian.

In message , Airy R. Bean
writes
You omitted a comma.

ITYM, "However, I doubt if many
of their inmates pronounce, 'pronunciation' correctly.".

"Ian Jackson" wrote in
message
...
However, I doubt if many
of their inmates pronounce 'pronunciation' correctly.



--




--

On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 14:33:06 -0500, "Dave VanHorn"
wrote:


While I have no trouble believing that someone is working twoard this, you
might remember what we were told about how Russia was working to take over
here.. Turned out that they were being told that we were trying to take them
over, and they were doing what they thought they had to do for self
defence..


It's because the little boys in the Pentagon, the CIA and our MI5 and
MI6 in the UK like to play war games. They haven't grown up. As you
rightly imply, Mr Joe Average in any country just wants to live out
his life in peace and quiet.

"Peter" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 14:33:06 -0500, "Dave VanHorn"
wrote:


While I have no trouble believing that someone is working twoard this, you
might remember what we were told about how Russia was working to take over
here.. Turned out that they were being told that we were trying to take
them
over, and they were doing what they thought they had to do for self
defence..


It's because the little boys in the Pentagon, the CIA and our MI5 and
MI6 in the UK like to play war games. They haven't grown up. As you
rightly imply, Mr Joe Average in any country just wants to live out
his life in peace and quiet.


Absolute blather!

As for the average representative of the late Evil Empire being no different
than your typical Brit, I would ask how many civilian airliners has the MoD
ordered destroyed for getting too close to Scotland?

I saw the Arabs giving out candies in the streets on September 12th. There
IS something different about those people, and twenty verses of Kumbiyaah
will not change the evidence.

--
Ed
WB6WSN