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WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- Researchers ... have invented an antenna that captures visible light in much the same way that radio antennas capture radio waves. ...tiny carbon nanotubes... snip http://edition.cnn.com/2004/TECH/sci...eut/index.html For some reason - it reminds me of Isaac Asimov's fictional 'anopticon' - although the technology is different. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= *** Usenet.com - The #1 Usenet Newsgroup Service on The Planet! *** http://www.usenet.com Unlimited Download - 19 Seperate Servers - 90,000 groups - Uncensored -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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"Antennas for Light" wrote in message ...
**** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- Researchers ... have invented an antenna that captures visible light in much the same way that radio antennas capture radio waves. ...tiny carbon nanotubes... snip http://edition.cnn.com/2004/TECH/sci...eut/index.html This antenna was invented much earlier, actually, as the compound eye of insects and other arthropods. http://biodidac.bio.uottawa.ca/thumb...&File_type=GIF |
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k4wge wrote:
"Antennas for Light" wrote in message ... **** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- Researchers ... have invented an antenna that captures visible light in much the same way that radio antennas capture radio waves. ...tiny carbon nanotubes... snip http://edition.cnn.com/2004/TECH/sci...eut/index.html This antenna was invented much earlier, actually, as the compound eye of insects and other arthropods. http://biodidac.bio.uottawa.ca/thumb...&File_type=GIF Oh, honestly. Real antennas have been used at optical frequencies for a decade. There's a current DARPA BAA on just this topic--for uncooled infrared imagers. My day job involves trying to use this effect for optical interconnection in servers and routers. Cheers, Phil Hobbs |
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On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 14:03:43 -0400, Phil Hobbs
wrote: There's a current DARPA BAA on just this topic Hi Phil, I must've missed that (probably because they don't offer BAAs to SBA set-asides). Do you have a link to this BAA? 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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"k4wge" This antenna was invented much earlier, actually, as the compound eye of insects and other arthropods. http://biodidac.bio.uottawa.ca/thumb...&File_type=GIF Googled your proposed connection: "An ommatidium contains a cluster of *photoreceptor* cells..." I believe that you've missed the point. It's the difference between optics and EM (*), or between nerves and conductors, or between biology and physics. (* Yes, I know, I know...) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= *** Usenet.com - The #1 Usenet Newsgroup Service on The Planet! *** http://www.usenet.com Unlimited Download - 19 Seperate Servers - 90,000 groups - Uncensored -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 20:26:33 -0300, "Dogs - nothing but dogs!!"
wrote: I believe that you've missed the point. It's the difference between optics and EM (*), or between nerves and conductors, or between biology and physics. Hi OM, What's the difference in Truro? 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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Richard Clark wrote:
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 14:03:43 -0400, Phil Hobbs wrote: There's a current DARPA BAA on just this topic Hi Phil, I must've missed that (probably because they don't offer BAAs to SBA set-asides). Do you have a link to this BAA? 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC Sorry, it's a bit older than I thought: http://www.darpa.mil/baa/baa04-01.htm Cheers, Phil Hobbs |
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"Richard Clark" What's the difference... I believe that insect eyes have little connection to the recent news about carbon nanotubes being arranged into 'antennas for light'. I think that the differences are quite clear. The news is not BIG NEWS - quite the opposite... ;-) ...in Truro? Truro? Puhleeze....couldn't stand it. Way too much traffic congestion for such a small town. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= *** Usenet.com - The #1 Usenet Newsgroup Service on The Planet! *** http://www.usenet.com Unlimited Download - 19 Seperate Servers - 90,000 groups - Uncensored -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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Ref: http://edition.cnn.com/2004/TECH/sci...eut/index.html "Phil Hobbs" Sorry, it's a bit older than I thought: http://www.darpa.mil/baa/baa04-01.htm I know it's natural to poo-poo all things new, but this NG takes the cake sometimes. CNN, "Until now, no one had been able to make a device small enough to act as an antenna for [visible] light." ['visible' light is from the CNN article's lead paragraph]. Seems pretty clear that the news is the size. Other than scale, they've simply made some good ole' fashioned vertical monopoles. That DARPA link (above) leads to 'blah, blah, blah' about millimetre wave and IR - not visible light. And they're looking for someone to invent same - it wasn't exactly a purchase order for an off-the-shelf product. And (apparently worth repeating) it wasn't for visible light scale. If anyone can provide any 'old' news for actual 'EM' antennas for ~visible~ light, please post the link and be sure to alert Boston College(*) and CNN and DARPA. Insect eyes don't count (not even close) - not EM technology. (* OMG - Let's quickly put any obvious fractal derivatives into the public domain here and now.) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= *** Usenet.com - The #1 Usenet Newsgroup Service on The Planet! *** http://www.usenet.com Unlimited Download - 19 Seperate Servers - 90,000 groups - Uncensored -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 20:07:19 -0400, Phil Hobbs
wrote: Richard Clark wrote: On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 14:03:43 -0400, Phil Hobbs wrote: There's a current DARPA BAA on just this topic Hi Phil, I must've missed that (probably because they don't offer BAAs to SBA set-asides). Do you have a link to this BAA? 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC Sorry, it's a bit older than I thought: http://www.darpa.mil/baa/baa04-01.htm Cheers, Phil Hobbs Hi Phil, Thanx. It looks like I was on the mark about lack of SBA set-asides, but I have an appointment with the UW Nanotech group this week and it will be a useful discussion point. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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