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Old August 22nd 03, 03:02 PM
Dave Shrader
 
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Richard's numbers are average for what seems to be the RF component of
the waveform. It does not include any variations cause by modulation
characteristics.

A single number does not exist!! An average value for my voice
characteristics will be different from an average value with your voice
characteristics, etc.

The spectral and intensity characteristics of each voice is different
and will cause the instantaneous and average V/I ratio in the finals to
vary. Therefore, a single number does not exist.

It may be possible to develop an equation with variable functions for
spectral and intensity density functions to modulate the output but each
solution would be unique.

A nice thevinin model would be a constant voltage, example 12 volts dc,
with a dynamically varying source resistor. The source resistor has two
components in the modulation scheme: 1) the RF frequency variation,
constant frequency, 2) and the second term the audio spectral power
density of my voice. This would be loaded by a constant 50 ohm load.

Anyway, it's nice to think about. Averages are much easier to work with
though!

DD, W1MCE

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Such a number must exist.



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Old August 22nd 03, 05:03 PM
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 14:02:35 GMT, Dave Shrader
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A single number does not exist!! An average value for my voice
characteristics will be different from an average value with your voice
characteristics, etc.


Hi Dave,

Are you one of those who whistles, hums, and recites the Gettysburg
Address into the mike while tuning up? Many on the band would offer
you as an example of Infernal Resistance. ;-)

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC
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Old August 22nd 03, 06:23 PM
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"Richard Clark" said
Are you one of those who whistles, hums, and recites the Gettysburg
Address into the mike while tuning up?


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Old August 23rd 03, 12:36 AM
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Nope! I'm not one of those tuner-uppers! I have a non-radiating carbon
resistor immersed in a gallon of oil inside a metal enclosure.

I adjust my tuner with a whopping 0.02 watts from an MFJ 259B.

Darn INFERNAL Resistance! However it is possible to see the difference
caused by bias differences if you have an amplifier. Tune for maximum
output. Then reduce drive by 50%. You have to readjust the amplifier for
maximum output. [ Example there is a difference in tuning between 500
watts and 1000 watts output. ]


DD, W1MCE
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Richard Clark wrote:

On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 14:02:35 GMT, Dave Shrader
wrote:


A single number does not exist!! An average value for my voice
characteristics will be different from an average value with your voice
characteristics, etc.



Hi Dave,

Are you one of those who whistles, hums, and recites the Gettysburg
Address into the mike while tuning up? Many on the band would offer
you as an example of Infernal Resistance. ;-)

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC


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