On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 04:11:22 GMT, Richard Clark
wrote:

|(1200 new registered voters in 3 days)

If these folks haven't bothered to register before and educate
themselves on the issues, why should they be voting?

As a BTW, the citizens of Arizona have the right to initiate law via
the ballot. (There are a couple of propositions on the ballot to take
away this right, politicians not wanting any meddling by the common
folk, doncha ya know.)

One of these initiative propositions would require a simple proof of
citizenship when you register and when you show up at the polls. The
usual suspects, i.e., the newspapers, the Hispanic "activists", my
gerrymandered-into-office Hispanic congressman, etc. are needless to
say suffering from severe panty bunching over this.

They claim that there has never been any instance of non-citizens, or
those ineligible, registering or voting.

The evening news just reported that 45 residents of the county
lock-up, felons all, were just registered to vote. Some of them
several times.

I guess that's good, huh?

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 23:08:58 -0700, Wes Stewart
wrote:

If these folks haven't bothered to register before and educate
themselves on the issues, why should they be voting?

Hi Wes,

The HAVE. The problem is we've had a spate of "volunteer" groups
who've pre-screened some registrants and those forms NEVER making it
into the office. Another problem is that we have had a FLOOD of new
registrants this summer (100,000+) in this county, and that has choked
the system such that when they go to check their status, their form
may have not cleared the bottleneck, and the office suggests if there
is any doubt they should apply again. At our first stop, quite a few
have been Troops and the families of Troops and I suppose they've been
too busy out of country (or on their way) to read the paper. The
problem of getting Absentee Ballots has been widely reported in the
Army Times (they had offered solutions last summer, Congress has had
problems fulfilling those solutions for some reason).

To All,

Anyway, it is now national law that any registered voter must be given
a ballot even if their name does not appear on the Voter's Roll.

If any of you is denied a ballot because they claim you do not appear
on the Roll, they cannot deny you a "Provisional Ballot" (this name
may vary by state). If they stonewall you claiming they "never" heard
of such a thing, then you simply go to another Polling Station and
make the same demand (you do not have to be at "your" Polling Station
to vote this way). If your state varies from this significantly, then
you should move out of Florida. When you vote "Provisional Ballot" be
prepared to have it placed into a security envelope, where you will
provide your name, signature, place of residence such that when your
name does appear on the Roll that it can be reconciled and the vote
tallied.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Richard,
I wonder if 'they' will hold up the 'taking of office' until
after all the 'provisional' ballots are counted? What if the
count should change to favor the 'looser'? Wonder why I am still
amazed to hear how the government has "solved" a problem?
'Doc

PS - It was a joke, right??

On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 21:44:17 GMT, 'Doc wrote:

I wonder if 'they' will hold up the 'taking of office' until
after all the 'provisional' ballots are counted? What if the
count should change to favor the 'looser'? Wonder why I am still
amazed to hear how the government has "solved" a problem?
'Doc

PS - It was a joke, right??

Hi Doc,

Hold up the "taking of office?" You mean like it got "took" before
(as you may recall, no votes above 9 counted)?

In the last election cycle we had a close race for Senate between
Maria Cantwell (D. challenger) and Slade Gorton (R. incumbent) and it
was the Absentee Ballot from the rural counties that gave Slade the
boot and that final count took some several weeks (following his
concession).

In fact, the final count hardly saw a ripple in the ballot calendar.
If you consider the Oregon vote, it is 100% Absentee Vote.

Today the new registrant count has pushed past 1700 with the focus
moving back into the well-heeled suburbs. Same enthusiastic
participation in a traffic of SUVs following me through the parking
lot while I was looking for the designated parking place (I'm driving
a 25 foot RV style mobile registration office for the Office of
Elections and Records).

It is not without its amusing moments, and its irritating moments.
Yesterday had me in a tide pool of University students (their moment
to catch up on registration once back on campus) and they were quite
inventive on how they thought voting should work (with some as lazy as
their parents in the 'burbs). Back in the 'burbs today and this
frantic b**ch demanding guarantees for her mother (at her side).
There was nothing I could offer that was satisfactory and she
dominated everyone's time to get her agenda cleared first. I put up
with that just so far and cut that loose; gave my spiel (the facts of
life and how to cope); and her mother shook my hand while daughter
went into melt-down.

Another fellow with a thick accent asked why we didn't check identity
papers. I explained that if we got more than 1 signature from the
same address and the same voter, he would be visited post-haste. He
then asked what kept a foreigner from voting, I responded "5 years in
the penitentiary."

There's your joke.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Wes Stewart wrote:

On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 04:11:22 GMT, Richard Clark
wrote:

|(1200 new registered voters in 3 days)

If these folks haven't bothered to register before and educate
themselves on the issues, why should they be voting?

As a BTW, the citizens of Arizona have the right to initiate law via
the ballot. (There are a couple of propositions on the ballot to take
away this right, politicians not wanting any meddling by the common
folk, doncha ya know.)

One of these initiative propositions would require a simple proof of
citizenship when you register and when you show up at the polls. The
usual suspects, i.e., the newspapers, the Hispanic "activists", my
gerrymandered-into-office Hispanic congressman, etc. are needless to
say suffering from severe panty bunching over this.

They claim that there has never been any instance of non-citizens, or
those ineligible, registering or voting.

The evening news just reported that 45 residents of the county
lock-up, felons all, were just registered to vote. Some of them
several times.

I guess that's good, huh?



What we need around here (California) is a law that says
you have to prove you're alive when you vote. Dead people
always seem to find their way to the polling booth on
election day in Northern California.
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH