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Stephen Thomas Cole[_3_] August 24th 17 07:18 AM

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Following the news of Mike M6MGE's fantastic response to an emergency call
through GB3WR (watch at https://youtube.com/watch?v=gjHbLo40i5E) when
mobile phones had failed, all radio amateurs can be heartened by not only
the outcome of that action, the saving of a child's life, but also of the
immeasurable good this fantastic PR brings to our hobby.

Ian Jackson G3OHX suggested in uk.radio.amateur.moderated that Mike should
be immediately upgraded to Full in recognition of his service, and I
concur! Accordingly, I have begun the campaign for Mike to be upgraded;
https://twitter.com/ukradioamateur/s...41529931706370

May I request that we embrace this as a community and do all we can to
bring attention to it? Anybody can listen to the recording of Mike's
intervention and can see that he is clearly worthy of holding an M0.

Thanks, let's do this!

--
STC / M0TEY /
http://twitter.com/ukradioamateur

Lucifer Morningstar August 24th 17 11:47 AM

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On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 06:18:09 -0000 (UTC), Stephen Thomas Cole
wrote:

Following the news of Mike M6MGE's fantastic response to an emergency call
through GB3WR (watch at https://youtube.com/watch?v=gjHbLo40i5E) when
mobile phones had failed, all radio amateurs can be heartened by not only
the outcome of that action, the saving of a child's life, but also of the
immeasurable good this fantastic PR brings to our hobby.

Ian Jackson G3OHX suggested in uk.radio.amateur.moderated that Mike should
be immediately upgraded to Full in recognition of his service, and I
concur! Accordingly, I have begun the campaign for Mike to be upgraded;
https://twitter.com/ukradioamateur/s...41529931706370

May I request that we embrace this as a community and do all we can to
bring attention to it? Anybody can listen to the recording of Mike's
intervention and can see that he is clearly worthy of holding an M0.

Thanks, let's do this!


He will be upgraded once he passes the extra tests needed.
He should count himself lucky he was not prosecuted for
incorrect use of amateur radio.

Roger Hayter August 24th 17 02:59 PM

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Lucifer Morningstar wrote:

On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 06:18:09 -0000 (UTC), Stephen Thomas Cole
wrote:

Following the news of Mike M6MGE's fantastic response to an emergency call
through GB3WR (watch at https://youtube.com/watch?v=gjHbLo40i5E) when
mobile phones had failed, all radio amateurs can be heartened by not only
the outcome of that action, the saving of a child's life, but also of the
immeasurable good this fantastic PR brings to our hobby.

Ian Jackson G3OHX suggested in uk.radio.amateur.moderated that Mike should
be immediately upgraded to Full in recognition of his service, and I
concur! Accordingly, I have begun the campaign for Mike to be upgraded;
https://twitter.com/ukradioamateur/s...41529931706370

May I request that we embrace this as a community and do all we can to
bring attention to it? Anybody can listen to the recording of Mike's
intervention and can see that he is clearly worthy of holding an M0.

Thanks, let's do this!


He will be upgraded once he passes the extra tests needed.
He should count himself lucky he was not prosecuted for
incorrect use of amateur radio.


OK. I'll bite. What did he do that was "incorrect"?

--

Roger Hayter

Jerry Stuckle August 24th 17 05:38 PM

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On 8/24/2017 9:59 AM, Roger Hayter wrote:
Lucifer Morningstar wrote:

On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 06:18:09 -0000 (UTC), Stephen Thomas Cole
wrote:

Following the news of Mike M6MGE's fantastic response to an emergency call
through GB3WR (watch at https://youtube.com/watch?v=gjHbLo40i5E) when
mobile phones had failed, all radio amateurs can be heartened by not only
the outcome of that action, the saving of a child's life, but also of the
immeasurable good this fantastic PR brings to our hobby.

Ian Jackson G3OHX suggested in uk.radio.amateur.moderated that Mike should
be immediately upgraded to Full in recognition of his service, and I
concur! Accordingly, I have begun the campaign for Mike to be upgraded;
https://twitter.com/ukradioamateur/s...41529931706370

May I request that we embrace this as a community and do all we can to
bring attention to it? Anybody can listen to the recording of Mike's
intervention and can see that he is clearly worthy of holding an M0.

Thanks, let's do this!


He will be upgraded once he passes the extra tests needed.
He should count himself lucky he was not prosecuted for
incorrect use of amateur radio.


OK. I'll bite. What did he do that was "incorrect"?


He helped someone in distress and possibly saved a child's life. That
cannot be allowed!

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Jerry. AI0K

==================

rickman August 24th 17 07:00 PM

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Stephen Thomas Cole wrote on 8/24/2017 2:18 AM:
Following the news of Mike M6MGE's fantastic response to an emergency call
through GB3WR (watch at https://youtube.com/watch?v=gjHbLo40i5E) when
mobile phones had failed, all radio amateurs can be heartened by not only
the outcome of that action, the saving of a child's life, but also of the
immeasurable good this fantastic PR brings to our hobby.

Ian Jackson G3OHX suggested in uk.radio.amateur.moderated that Mike should
be immediately upgraded to Full in recognition of his service, and I
concur! Accordingly, I have begun the campaign for Mike to be upgraded;
https://twitter.com/ukradioamateur/s...41529931706370

May I request that we embrace this as a community and do all we can to
bring attention to it? Anybody can listen to the recording of Mike's
intervention and can see that he is clearly worthy of holding an M0.

Thanks, let's do this!


I can't say I understand. Would this be an honorary upgrade like a
university gives an honorary degree? A ham license is earned by achieving a
level of knowledge in the technology and bestows a license to use specific
frequencies and capabilities. What would be the point of upgrading this
person's license before they have shown the technical abilities to utilize
these added capabilities?

--

Rick C

Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms,
on the centerline of totality since 1998

Roger Hayter August 24th 17 10:50 PM

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rickman wrote:

Stephen Thomas Cole wrote on 8/24/2017 2:18 AM:
Following the news of Mike M6MGE's fantastic response to an emergency call
through GB3WR (watch at https://youtube.com/watch?v=gjHbLo40i5E) when
mobile phones had failed, all radio amateurs can be heartened by not only
the outcome of that action, the saving of a child's life, but also of the
immeasurable good this fantastic PR brings to our hobby.

Ian Jackson G3OHX suggested in uk.radio.amateur.moderated that Mike should
be immediately upgraded to Full in recognition of his service, and I
concur! Accordingly, I have begun the campaign for Mike to be upgraded;
https://twitter.com/ukradioamateur/s...41529931706370

May I request that we embrace this as a community and do all we can to
bring attention to it? Anybody can listen to the recording of Mike's
intervention and can see that he is clearly worthy of holding an M0.

Thanks, let's do this!


I can't say I understand. Would this be an honorary upgrade like a
university gives an honorary degree? A ham license is earned by achieving a
level of knowledge in the technology and bestows a license to use specific
frequencies and capabilities. What would be the point of upgrading this
person's license before they have shown the technical abilities to utilize
these added capabilities?


The difference in privileges is so minimal (especially as power limits
aren't policed) between the three UK licence classes that I don't think
it would actually make much difference. However, I agree it shouldn't
be done.

--

Roger Hayter

rickman August 24th 17 11:26 PM

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Roger Hayter wrote on 8/24/2017 5:50 PM:
rickman wrote:

Stephen Thomas Cole wrote on 8/24/2017 2:18 AM:
Following the news of Mike M6MGE's fantastic response to an emergency call
through GB3WR (watch at https://youtube.com/watch?v=gjHbLo40i5E) when
mobile phones had failed, all radio amateurs can be heartened by not only
the outcome of that action, the saving of a child's life, but also of the
immeasurable good this fantastic PR brings to our hobby.

Ian Jackson G3OHX suggested in uk.radio.amateur.moderated that Mike should
be immediately upgraded to Full in recognition of his service, and I
concur! Accordingly, I have begun the campaign for Mike to be upgraded;
https://twitter.com/ukradioamateur/s...41529931706370

May I request that we embrace this as a community and do all we can to
bring attention to it? Anybody can listen to the recording of Mike's
intervention and can see that he is clearly worthy of holding an M0.

Thanks, let's do this!


I can't say I understand. Would this be an honorary upgrade like a
university gives an honorary degree? A ham license is earned by achieving a
level of knowledge in the technology and bestows a license to use specific
frequencies and capabilities. What would be the point of upgrading this
person's license before they have shown the technical abilities to utilize
these added capabilities?


The difference in privileges is so minimal (especially as power limits
aren't policed) between the three UK licence classes that I don't think
it would actually make much difference. However, I agree it shouldn't
be done.


I was studying for a ham license in the US, but got sidetracked. Here there
are specific frequencies you can only use if you have the higher license.

Actually, I stopped studying because I didn't find a very interesting group
in my area. I went to a couple of meetings with one group in Frederick, MD
and they weren't too interesting. I was looking for a place to take the
license exam in West Virginia where I live and wrote the contact email about
times and locations and never heard back. If I can find a group that is
interesting to talk to I would probably get back to studying.

I guess I feel the guy should get some sort of commendation. I was
impressed with his cool head and he clearly knew what to do. Isn't there
some other means of recognizing him than a license? That actually seems a
bit less than what could be done.

--

Rick C

Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms,
on the centerline of totality since 1998

Spike[_3_] August 25th 17 08:14 AM

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On 24/08/2017 23:26, rickman wrote:

I guess I feel the guy should get some sort of commendation.* I was
impressed with his cool head and he clearly knew what to do.* Isn't
there some other means of recognizing him than a license?* That actually
seems a bit less than what could be done.


A much better idea would have been to nominate him for a civilian
honour, which is far better understood than any upgraded licence would
have been. It's what civilian honours are for, after all.

[UKRA added]

--
Spike

Jim GM4DHJ ...[_2_] August 25th 17 10:58 AM

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"Spike" wrote in message
...
On 24/08/2017 23:26, rickman wrote:

I guess I feel the guy should get some sort of commendation. I was
impressed with his cool head and he clearly knew what to do. Isn't there
some other means of recognizing him than a license? That actually seems a
bit less than what could be done.


A much better idea would have been to nominate him for a civilian honour,
which is far better understood than any upgraded licence would have been.
It's what civilian honours are for, after all.

[UKRA added]

well I want one for all the times I have phoned 999 .........



Brian Reay[_5_] August 25th 17 01:28 PM

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Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

"Spike" wrote in message
...
On 24/08/2017 23:26, rickman wrote:

I guess I feel the guy should get some sort of commendation. I was
impressed with his cool head and he clearly knew what to do. Isn't there
some other means of recognizing him than a license? That actually seems a
bit less than what could be done.


A much better idea would have been to nominate him for a civilian honour,
which is far better understood than any upgraded licence would have been.
It's what civilian honours are for, after all.

[UKRA added]

well I want one for all the times I have phoned 999 .........




As I predicted Steve, the usual rejects want to jump on you idea and abuse
it. Perhaps you can now understand some of my concerns.




Catweazel August 25th 17 03:16 PM

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On 25/08/2017 14:32, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 12:28:53 -0000 (UTC)
Brian Reay wrote:

As I predicted Steve, the usual rejects want to jump on you idea and abuse
it. Perhaps you can now understand some of my concerns.


Jim is just being Jim, Spike's idea is exactly the correct course to be
taken IMHO.

An upgraded licence is achieved by taking the more technical licence
exam.

WHS !


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FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI August 25th 17 03:28 PM

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"Catweazel" wrote in message
...
On 25/08/2017 14:32, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 12:28:53 -0000 (UTC)
Brian Reay wrote:
As I predicted Steve, the usual rejects want to jump on you idea and
abuse
it. Perhaps you can now understand some of my concerns.


Jim is just being Jim, Spike's idea is exactly the correct course to be
taken IMHO.

An upgraded licence is achieved by taking the more technical licence
exam.

WHS !

Just buy him a pint. If he doesn't want it I'll gladly drink it on his
behalf.
--
;-)
..
73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.
..
http://turner-smith.uk


Ian Jackson[_4_] August 25th 17 04:11 PM

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In message , rickman
writes

I guess I feel the guy should get some sort of commendation. I was
impressed with his cool head and he clearly knew what to do. Isn't
there some other means of recognizing him than a license? That actually
seems a bit less than what could be done.


Life-membership of the RSGB???


--
Ian

Jimbo August 25th 17 04:13 PM

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"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

"Spike" wrote in message
...
On 24/08/2017 23:26, rickman wrote:

I guess I feel the guy should get some sort of commendation. I was
impressed with his cool head and he clearly knew what to do. Isn't
there
some other means of recognizing him than a license? That actually seems
a
bit less than what could be done.

A much better idea would have been to nominate him for a civilian
honour,
which is far better understood than any upgraded licence would have
been.
It's what civilian honours are for, after all.

[UKRA added]

well I want one for all the times I have phoned 999 .........




As I predicted Steve, the usual rejects want to jump on you idea and abuse
it. Perhaps you can now understand some of my concerns.



WELL EVEN YOU SAID IT WAS STUP......



Jimbo August 25th 17 06:44 PM

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"Jimbo" wrote in message
...

"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

"Spike" wrote in message
...
On 24/08/2017 23:26, rickman wrote:

I guess I feel the guy should get some sort of commendation. I was
impressed with his cool head and he clearly knew what to do. Isn't
there
some other means of recognizing him than a license? That actually
seems a
bit less than what could be done.

A much better idea would have been to nominate him for a civilian
honour,
which is far better understood than any upgraded licence would have
been.
It's what civilian honours are for, after all.

[UKRA added]

well I want one for all the times I have phoned 999 .........




As I predicted Steve, the usual rejects want to jump on you idea and
abuse
it. Perhaps you can now understand some of my concerns.



WELL EVEN YOU SAID IT WAS STUP......


ID



Roger Hayter August 25th 17 09:34 PM

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Ian Jackson wrote:

In message , rickman
writes

I guess I feel the guy should get some sort of commendation. I was
impressed with his cool head and he clearly knew what to do. Isn't
there some other means of recognizing him than a license? That actually
seems a bit less than what could be done.


Life-membership of the RSGB???


I believe a life member can resign effectively. But do they have to pay
if they decide to rejoin?



--

Roger Hayter

Spike[_3_] August 26th 17 09:38 AM

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On 25/08/2017 14:20, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 08:14:35 +0100
Spike wrote:


A much better idea would have been to nominate him for a civilian
honour, which is far better understood than any upgraded licence would
have been. It's what civilian honours are for, after all.



WHS!


It's an interesting comment on the times in which we currently live, and
perhaps on the training scheme in this country, that an M6 should be
considered for a unique radio-related award because he operated a radio
satisfactorily - and in addition that people be so moved by this to
suggest an unprecedented method of recognition of it.


--
Spike

Brian Reay[_5_] August 26th 17 10:49 AM

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Spike wrote:
On 25/08/2017 14:20, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 08:14:35 +0100
Spike wrote:


A much better idea would have been to nominate him for a civilian
honour, which is far better understood than any upgraded licence would
have been. It's what civilian honours are for, after all.



WHS!


It's an interesting comment on the times in which we currently live, and
perhaps on the training scheme in this country, that an M6 should be
considered for a unique radio-related award because he operated a radio
satisfactorily - and in addition that people be so moved by this to
suggest an unprecedented method of recognition of it.



What are you babbling about?

The operator did a good job. Someone has called for it to be recognised.
The method, in my view, isn't appropriate, but that doesn't detract from
his efforts.

You are, as always, just turning the matter into another opportunity to
have a go at the current system. It must really get up your nose that an FL
holder did such a fine job.

I'm almost tempted to join the campaign to have him awarded a Full Licence,
just to wind you up.


Roger Hayter August 26th 17 03:14 PM

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Spike wrote:

On 25/08/2017 14:20, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 08:14:35 +0100
Spike wrote:


A much better idea would have been to nominate him for a civilian
honour, which is far better understood than any upgraded licence would
have been. It's what civilian honours are for, after all.



WHS!


It's an interesting comment on the times in which we currently live, and
perhaps on the training scheme in this country, that an M6 should be
considered for a unique radio-related award because he operated a radio
satisfactorily - and in addition that people be so moved by this to
suggest an unprecedented method of recognition of it.


It's not that easy to do expeditiously, and even some old people might
have made a hash of it. So I agree it is not outstanding, but it was
competently done, and *very* good for the hobby's non-existent public
image.


--

Roger Hayter

Brian Reay[_5_] August 26th 17 03:45 PM

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Roger Hayter wrote:
Spike wrote:

On 25/08/2017 14:20, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 08:14:35 +0100
Spike wrote:


A much better idea would have been to nominate him for a civilian
honour, which is far better understood than any upgraded licence would
have been. It's what civilian honours are for, after all.



WHS!


It's an interesting comment on the times in which we currently live, and
perhaps on the training scheme in this country, that an M6 should be
considered for a unique radio-related award because he operated a radio
satisfactorily - and in addition that people be so moved by this to
suggest an unprecedented method of recognition of it.


It's not that easy to do expeditiously, and even some old people might
have made a hash of it. So I agree it is not outstanding, but it was
competently done, and *very* good for the hobby's non-existent public
image.



Exactly.

Spike, as ever, is simply being his bitter and twisted self and trying to
rubbish the efforts of the operator.

Moreover, his comments re planning, epilepsy, and mobile phone coverage are
beyond tasteless and naive.

Plus, of course, if it was reported that (say) a school trip had somehow
limited access to a pupil on the basis he suggests, he would be the first
and loudest to scream.

He is a hypocrite of the first order.

I wonder if there is some kind of award for people like him?

;-)


Mobilohm August 26th 17 05:03 PM

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"Roger Hayter" wrote in message
...
Spike wrote:

On 25/08/2017 14:20, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 08:14:35 +0100
Spike wrote:


A much better idea would have been to nominate him for a civilian
honour, which is far better understood than any upgraded licence would
have been. It's what civilian honours are for, after all.



WHS!


It's an interesting comment on the times in which we currently live, and
perhaps on the training scheme in this country, that an M6 should be
considered for a unique radio-related award because he operated a radio
satisfactorily - and in addition that people be so moved by this to
suggest an unprecedented method of recognition of it.


It's not that easy to do expeditiously, and even some old people might
have made a hash of it. So I agree it is not outstanding, but it was
competently done, and *very* good for the hobby's non-existent public
image.


nice bit of prestige for us operators Tone ...tee hee



Mobilohm August 26th 17 05:04 PM

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Exactly.

Spike, as ever, is simply being his bitter and twisted self and trying to
rubbish the efforts of the operator.

Moreover, his comments re planning, epilepsy, and mobile phone coverage
are
beyond tasteless and naive.

Plus, of course, if it was reported that (say) a school trip had somehow
limited access to a pupil on the basis he suggests, he would be the first
and loudest to scream.

He is a hypocrite of the first order.

I wonder if there is some kind of award for people like him?

;-)


you? .....



Spike[_3_] August 26th 17 05:44 PM

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On 26/08/2017 10:49, Brian Reay wrote:
Spike wrote:


It's an interesting comment on the times in which we currently live, and
perhaps on the training scheme in this country, that an M6 should be
considered for a unique radio-related award because he operated a radio
satisfactorily - and in addition that people be so moved by this to
suggest an unprecedented method of recognition of it.


What are you babbling about?


You need to be told what this is about?

The operator did a good job. Someone has called for it to be recognised.
The method, in my view, isn't appropriate, but that doesn't detract from
his efforts.


You are, as always, just turning the matter into another opportunity to
have a go at the current system. It must really get up your nose that an FL
holder did such a fine job.


If you can't see that getting a free upgrade for doing things properly
is bizarre, then you must wear a peculiar set of spectacles.

I'm almost tempted to join the campaign to have him awarded a Full Licence,
just to wind you up.


You get pettier by the day, especially since your rosy view of your
locale was punctured by a few facts.

FYI, this is posted from RRAMisc; you're binned on UKRA as a waste of
bandwidth, as proven by your claptrap quoted above.


--
Spike

Spike[_3_] August 26th 17 05:44 PM

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On 26/08/2017 17:04, Mobilohm wrote:

Exactly.


Spike, as ever, is simply being his bitter and twisted self and trying to
rubbish the efforts of the operator.


Moreover, his comments re planning, epilepsy, and mobile phone coverage
are beyond tasteless and naive.


Plus, of course, if it was reported that (say) a school trip had somehow
limited access to a pupil on the basis he suggests, he would be the first
and loudest to scream.


So Reay's having it both ways? Forward planning is bad (when I suggest
it) but good when he suggests it?

Add in the supposition piled upon supposition, (if...this...he ...would)
and one wonders about his mindset.

He is a hypocrite of the first order.


I must have caught it from Reay...see above.

I wonder if there is some kind of award for people like him?


I hope it's not a golden pinny, I leave that sort of thing for the
pompous and the gullible.

you? .....


Him?


--
Spike

Spike[_3_] August 26th 17 05:45 PM

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On 26/08/2017 15:14, Roger Hayter wrote:
Spike wrote:


It's an interesting comment on the times in which we currently live, and
perhaps on the training scheme in this country, that an M6 should be
considered for a unique radio-related award because he operated a radio
satisfactorily - and in addition that people be so moved by this to
suggest an unprecedented method of recognition of it.



It's not that easy to do expeditiously, and even some old people might
have made a hash of it. So I agree it is not outstanding, but it was
competently done, and *very* good for the hobby's non-existent public
image.


In Reay fashion, there's supposition in there right at the start.


--
Spike


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