Ed Price wrote in message news:qZdhd.87705$kz3.49376@fed1read02...

"Chuck" wrote in message
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Yes, Saddam was a first-class jerk and two-
bit tyrant, but was not an immediate threat to
America - he lost 2 wars and was sanctioned
by the UN - his army was left impotent, his
major weapons were destroyed after the gulf
war, his WMD programs were in shambles,

But Sadaam PROMISED us the "mother of all battles". We had to assume he was
armed to the teeth. If you can't trust a guy like Sadaam to make a threat
meaningful, gee, who can you trust?

Do you honestly believe a de-fanged two-bit
tyrant is going to admit to the world he's
impotent? But then, true believers will believe
in just about anything that fits their illusions...

GWB is a war criminal - too bad you support
a real war criminal - and that's not spin.

Indeed Chuck, that's not spin. I'd call you an honest, straightforward
propagandist; what we used to simply refer to as a liar.

You mean like the debunked Swiftboat vets
for Bush, or WMDs that didn't exist, or the
immediate nuclear threat that didn't exist, or
al Queda links that never were, or how about
compassionate conservatism, or vote for
me or the terrorists will get you...

Propagandist indeed...

Chuck


Ed
wb6wsn

"Chuck" wrote
You mean like the debunked Swiftboat vets
for Bush, or WMDs that didn't exist, or the
immediate nuclear threat that didn't exist, or
al Queda links that never were, or how about
compassionate conservatism, or vote for
me or the terrorists will get you...

Propagandist indeed...

Chuck

I'll go with spoiled brat.

Chuck wrote:

Propagandist indeed..

That can go for both major parties and the third parties.

Go vote on Tuesday. Vote your values and beliefs. Remember that your vote
last 4 years. I am afraid many people are going to vote out of emotions,
rather than informed decision making.

The Bible tells us to pray for our leaders. We need to pray for our leaders
from the local elections all the way to the national. And please, no Bible or
Christian bashing :-)

Randy ka4nma

Randy,

I value and believe in my emotions.

Now what should I do?

Seriously, "informed decision making" is a personal action that of
necessity includes the context of an individual's emotions. What is
informed for you may be just plain stupid for me, and vice versa. How
could one ever completely separate "informed" decisions from emotions?

73,
Gene
W4SZ

Theplanters95 wrote:


Go vote on Tuesday. Vote your values and beliefs. Remember that your vote
last 4 years. I am afraid many people are going to vote out of emotions,
rather than informed decision making.

Theplanters95 wrote:
The Bible tells us to pray for our leaders. We need to pray for our leaders
from the local elections all the way to the national. And please, no Bible or
Christian bashing :-)

If anyone ever furnishes proof that there is someone listening
to those prayers, I will join in.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


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Hi, Cecil:

Worldlings have made that challenge since time immemorial.

The someone listening is the author of prayer. Join in now, by praying for
the grace of faith, just in case your position of apparent unbelief turns
out to be the wrong one for all eternity.

73, Dave, N3HE

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
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Theplanters95 wrote:
The Bible tells us to pray for our leaders. We need to pray for our
leaders
from the local elections all the way to the national. And please, no
Bible or
Christian bashing :-)

If anyone ever furnishes proof that there is someone listening
to those prayers, I will join in.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

David J Windisch wrote:
Join in now, by praying for
the grace of faith, just in case your position of apparent unbelief turns
out to be the wrong one for all eternity.

I've seen zero proof of immortality. If I have
an immortal soul, then so does my dog and so
do her fleas.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


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On 01 Nov 2004 04:47:54 GMT, ospam
(Theplanters95) wrote:


The Bible tells us to pray for our leaders. We need to pray for our leaders
from the local elections all the way to the national. And please, no Bible or
Christian bashing :-)

Randy ka4nma

But several of your past presidents and famous men were agnostics, if
not atheists ... eg George Washington. Why pray for those who dont
believe in the power of prayer ( like me!)

Even if you do not believe in something does not mean it is not valid.

I do not believe in Islam. That does not mean it does not exist.

We need to be careful not to let our emotions cloud our reasoning.

nuff said,

Randy KA4NMA

Theplanters95 wrote:
Even if you do not believe in something does not mean it is not valid.

If you faithfully believe that the moon has a green cheese
core, does that make it valid?
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