"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
...
RT wrote:
"Parents should ensure their children use mobile phones only when
absolutely
necessary because of the potential health risks, an expert is warning."
Then in same sentence,

"The latest study by Sir William Stewart says there is still no proof
mobile
phones are unsafe,"

The IEEE Spectrum reports that cell phone use for ten years
results in a benign tumor that causes hearing loss.

Is that 10 years continous use? If so, most youngsters will be death by the
time they are 18, if the 'music' hasn't 'got them by 15 ;-)

I'm glad I'm too old to like what passes for 'music' these days ;-)

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Brian Reay
www.g8osn.org.uk
www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk
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Cecil Moore wrote:

The IEEE Spectrum reports that cell phone use for ten years
results in a benign tumor that causes hearing loss.

Which issue was that? I'd like to read the article.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Brian Reay wrote:

"Cecil Moore" wrote:
The IEEE Spectrum reports that cell phone use for ten years
results in a benign tumor that causes hearing loss.

Is that 10 years continous use? If so, most youngsters will be death by the
time they are 18, if the 'music' hasn't 'got them by 15 ;-)

I assume you mean deaf? Few people have used cell phones
for ten years already. Some of those few are starting to
get tumors inside their ears. I have switched over to a
headset for my cellphone activities after having one
for about three years.
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Roy Lewallen wrote:

Cecil Moore wrote:
The IEEE Spectrum reports that cell phone use for ten years
results in a benign tumor that causes hearing loss.

Which issue was that? I'd like to read the article.

December 2004, page 20: "Cellphones Linked To Brain Tumors"
"No tumors were associated with less than 10 years of
cellphone use." There will be about 50 million people with
10 years of cellphone use in 1907. I won't be one of them.
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"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
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Brian Reay wrote:

"Cecil Moore" wrote:
The IEEE Spectrum reports that cell phone use for ten years
results in a benign tumor that causes hearing loss.

Is that 10 years continous use? If so, most youngsters will be death by
the
time they are 18, if the 'music' hasn't 'got them by 15 ;-)

I assume you mean deaf?

Indeed, thinking of something else as I typed. Its the 'music' ;-)

Few people have used cell phones
for ten years already.

Not sure about that. The mobile phone was an icon of the 'Yuppie' era (along
with the Filofax, BMW, Rolex, etc.) That was mid 1980s.

I'm pretty sure we one of the early 'next generation' phones (digital) in
about 1990.

--
Brian Reay
www.g8osn.org.uk
www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk
FP#898

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:42:37 GMT, "tox"
wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4163003.stm


Any views?

No, just an unbiased review of what appears to be all studies done so
far-

http://www.mcw.edu/gcrc/cop/cell-pho...h-FAQ/toc.html

Read thoroughly & make up your own mind .

H.

"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...


Few people have used cell phones
for ten years already.

Not sure about that. The mobile phone was an icon of the 'Yuppie' era
(along
with the Filofax, BMW, Rolex, etc.) That was mid 1980s.

I'm pretty sure we one of the early 'next generation' phones (digital) in
about 1990.


Just checked, it One2One launched in 1993, and there were other systems
before that.

Hard to believe, I don't recall a time when we weren't plagued by the
'mobile'.


--
Brian Reay
www.g8osn.org.uk
www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk
FP#898

Cecil Moore wrote:
Roy Lewallen wrote:

Cecil Moore wrote:

The IEEE Spectrum reports that cell phone use for ten years
results in a benign tumor that causes hearing loss.


Which issue was that? I'd like to read the article.


December 2004, page 20: "Cellphones Linked To Brain Tumors"
"No tumors were associated with less than 10 years of
cellphone use." There will be about 50 million people with
10 years of cellphone use in 1907. I won't be one of them.

Thanks. Here's what the article really said:

"Researchers at the Karolinska Institute of Environmental Medicine, in
Stockholm, Sweden, have found an association between long-term cellphone
use and a rare, benign tumor, causing concern among radiation
specialists and epidemiologists, though they emphasize that the results
haven't been replicated yet. Scientists now eagerly await results from
other studies under way around the world.

Published in the November issue of the journal _Epidemiology_, the
Swedish study, led by Stefan Lönn of the Karolinska Institute, looked at
148 people who had acoustic neuroma and compared them with 604 healthy
people. It found that people who used cellphones for more than 10 years
doubled their risk of developing the tumor, a benign condition affecting
one in 100 000 people. . ."

So when you compacted this into the statement that "cell phone use for
ten years results in a benign tumor that causes hearing loss", was it an
emulation of today's journalistic technique, or just the effect of years
spent working with binary circuits?

Looks to me like it said that a single study, yet to be replicated, of a
small group of people indicated that long-term cell phone use caused a
doubling of the risk of a rare benign tumor, raising the odds of getting
one from about 1 in 100,000 to 1 in 50,000.

So when you compacted this into the statement that "cell phone use for
ten years results in a benign tumor that causes hearing loss", was it an
emulation of today's journalistic technique, or just the effect of years
spent working with binary circuits?

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:16:01 +0000, Prometheus
wrote:

...... in fact give the large proportion of the
population using such devices the stats would indicate some tumours in
less than ten years. Where are they?

Firstly, you have to ask yourself what is meant by 'ten years of use'.

Does it mean

- owning one for ten tears?
- having it switched on for ten years?
- using it for x hours a day for ten years?

The meaning of 'ten years' hasn't been made clear so far, at least on
this ng.

Then you need to take into account of the mechanics of tumour
initiation and development. There are thought to be five or six events
in the initiation and growth of a tumour to the stage where it can be
clinically diagnosed. Only one of these is associated with the
causative factor, which will have its own rate of effectiveness, and
so will each of the remaining steps.

Unless the statistics have been very carefully researched and
manipulated, and they may well have been, the numbers reported should
be treated with some caution....
--
from
Aero Spike

"tox" wrote in message
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4163003.stm


Any views?


I think common sense dictates caution when you slap something on the side of
your head that heats your brain (Airy excluded) up... There must be health
issues with this....