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Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI January 13th 05 09:11 PM

Nimrod wrote:
"David Edmonds" wrote in message
...

Airy R.Bean wrote:


I wonder if there is any mileage to be had from adapting
the numerous junk-mail CD's as the vanes of ATU
capacitors?


So you've given up on using them to make 30 line television systems then?



Just like the TMC days. One daft idea after another.



I remember turning vinyl discs into flower pots, but some of us have
moved on since then.
--
;)
73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.
http://turner-smith.co.uk


Brian Reay January 13th 05 10:13 PM

"Custos Custodum" wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:50:33 -0000, "Nimrod" wrote:


You can always tell when Gareth has lost the game and is wound up - lots

of
posts sent in anger.

I love it.

Just like the TMC days.

The reason for the multiple posts is that it's the only way he can
top-post responses to individual points made in the previous post. I
think his record is about 10 replies to one post. And still he thinks
top-posting is the way to go.



Part of the problem is that people will respond to his rudeness, if you
can't ignore it kill file him. He does it to disrupt the group and he can
only do so IF WE LET HIM. If we don't let him he can't disrupt the group.
Standard behaviour management.

If we just ignore his rude posts (or the bits of his few other posts that
are rude), the problem would go away. Sometimes some of the stuff I seen
responded to recently hasn't been that bad- maybe his engineering skills are
wanting but this is a forum to ask questions. If he could just stop being so
rude and negative I'd happily try and help him learn.

Thing is, he seems to see every mention of failure as a reference to him. I
can only assume he has very low self esteem. This does make helping him a
challenge. Pity we don't have an SEN teacher in the group- they would be
ideal to advise us on the best plan. He could draw up an IEP for him.

--
Brian Reay
www.g8osn.org.uk
www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk
FP#898




tox January 13th 05 10:43 PM


"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...
"Custos Custodum" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:50:33 -0000, "Nimrod" wrote:


Pity we don't have an SEN teacher in the group- they would be
ideal to advise us on the best plan. He could draw up an IEP for him.


ROTFLMAO

Priceless Brian, Priceless...

Regards
tox



Mike Andrews January 13th 05 11:59 PM

In (rec.radio.amateur.homebrew), tox wrote:

"Brian Reay" wrote in message
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"Custos Custodum" wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:50:33 -0000, "Nimrod" wrote:


Pity we don't have an SEN teacher in the group- they would be
ideal to advise us on the best plan. He could draw up an IEP for him.


ROTFLMAO


Priceless Brian, Priceless...


I think it's well past time for everyone to go to Due Process on him
-- as in "killfile" and Please Do Not Feed The Troll.

--
Slow? Geological. Tectonic plates muttering about the slowpoke, that
sort of thing.
-- Michel Buijsman, in the Monastery

Airy R.Bean January 14th 05 09:29 AM

Once again. Mr.Reay succeeds in scoring an own-goal.....

"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...
Part of the problem is that people will respond to his rudeness, if you
can't ignore it kill file him. He does it to disrupt the group and he can
only do so IF WE LET HIM. If we don't let him he can't disrupt the group.
Standard behaviour management.

If we just ignore his rude posts (or the bits of his few other posts that
are rude), the problem would go away. If he could just stop being so
rude and negative I'd happily try and help him learn.




Spike January 14th 05 01:44 PM

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:13:37 -0000, "Brian Reay"
wrote:

Part of the problem is that people will respond to his rudeness, if you
can't ignore it kill file him. He does it to disrupt the group and he can
only do so IF WE LET HIM. If we don't let him he can't disrupt the group.
Standard behaviour management.


Very good points.

Having posted what appears to be on the surface a technical item
regarding the construction of capacitors for an ATU, it seems that
Bean has done no calculations whatsoever regarding the design.

Even simple back-of-the-envelope calculations would have pointed up
the the critical areas of component performance, which, together with
an appraisal of the limitations of his chosen resources, may have led
to a more realistic redesign. OTOH it may have indicated or confirmed
the correctness of his original approach. But we'll never know.

But did he respond accordingly? Instead of being an interesting
technical discussion, it has become yet another stick with which to
beat selected responders - the 'gentlemanly traditions' disappearing,
if they ever surfaced at all, very rapidly. One is left with the
strong impression that the original posting wasn't meant to be a
technical discussion at all, and another poster's comment elsewhere
about 'the cycle repeats' appears very apposite.

I note that you have already mentioned what could well be the achilles
heel of Bean's choice of components, and one which I was trying to
gently steer him to in my initial contribution. But it seems that it
is more fun to wield the stick rather than undertake any real design
studies. Ah well.
--
from
Aero Spike

Brian Reay January 14th 05 05:31 PM

"Spike" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:13:37 -0000, "Brian Reay"
wrote:

Part of the problem is that people will respond to his rudeness, if you
can't ignore it kill file him. He does it to disrupt the group and he

can
only do so IF WE LET HIM. If we don't let him he can't disrupt the group.
Standard behaviour management.


Very good points.

Having posted what appears to be on the surface a technical item
regarding the construction of capacitors for an ATU, it seems that
Bean has done no calculations whatsoever regarding the design.

Even simple back-of-the-envelope calculations would have pointed up
the the critical areas of component performance, which, together with
an appraisal of the limitations of his chosen resources, may have led
to a more realistic redesign. OTOH it may have indicated or confirmed
the correctness of his original approach. But we'll never know.

But did he respond accordingly? Instead of being an interesting
technical discussion, it has become yet another stick with which to
beat selected responders - the 'gentlemanly traditions' disappearing,
if they ever surfaced at all, very rapidly. One is left with the
strong impression that the original posting wasn't meant to be a
technical discussion at all, and another poster's comment elsewhere
about 'the cycle repeats' appears very apposite.

I note that you have already mentioned what could well be the achilles
heel of Bean's choice of components, and one which I was trying to
gently steer him to in my initial contribution. But it seems that it
is more fun to wield the stick rather than undertake any real design
studies. Ah well.


All signs of insecurity. If Gareth was sure of himself he could debate /
discuss at a technical level. I can't ever actually recall him doing this.

I'm sure there will be a name for his condition, probably even treatment.

--
Brian Reay
www.g8osn.org.uk
www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk
FP#898



Micky Taker January 14th 05 05:47 PM

Brian Reay wrote:



All signs of insecurity. If Gareth was sure of himself he could debate /
discuss at a technical level. I can't ever actually recall him doing this.

I'm sure there will be a name for his condition, probably even treatment.

Yes, it's called Antisocial Personality Disorder (APD).

Google will give you all the info.

Micky

--
E&OE (C) 2005 Micky Taker
Micky Taker accepts no responsibility for any personal injury or
emotional distress that may occur as a result of reading the contents of
this message.

Airy R.Bean January 14th 05 08:39 PM

Once again Mr.Reay has published something that has come home
to roost at his home. Remember the following bull**** from
yesterday?.....

"Part of the problem is that people will respond to his rudeness, if you
can't ignore it kill file him. He does it to disrupt the group and he can
only do so IF WE LET HIM. If we don't let him he can't disrupt the group.
Standard behaviour management."


"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...

All signs of insecurity. If Gareth was sure of himself he could debate /
discuss at a technical level. I can't ever actually recall him doing this.
I'm sure there will be a name for his condition, probably even treatment.




Airy R.Bean January 14th 05 08:45 PM

Once again, Mr.Reay is brandishing his card with
the "insecurity" sneer upon it.

That Mr.Reay feels the need to repeatedly initiate
personal remarks of an aggressive character, personal
remarks that cannot be taken as "debate / discussion at
a technical level", would seem to suggest that it is Mr.Reay
who is insecure, do you not think?

"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...

All signs of insecurity. If Gareth was sure of himself he could debate /
discuss at a technical level. I can't ever actually recall him doing this.
I'm sure there will be a name for his condition, probably even treatment.





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