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Old December 8th 04, 06:18 PM
Simon Smith
 
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Mr Bean
With the greatest respect.
I have no control over the RSGB and their decision to allow "new members"
with an easy foundation test.
Perhaps it was because the hobby was in need of some new Blood.
I was not allowed to sit the advanced test - or the intermediate test. I had
to start off in exactly the same place as you did - at the very bottom.
I suppose you started off at the very top did you ? You must be absolutely
brilliant !!
By the way I;m a retired research technologist with a Mathematics and
Chemistry degree - hardly a Mongolian mooron !
Why dont you write to the RSGB - perhaps they could make use of your
services in an advisory capacity.
"73's Mr Bean.




"Airy R. Bean" wrote in message
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AKA The M3/CB Fools' Licence which is
a gangrenous degeneration of Ham Radio
that has admitted the Mongolian Hordes of
CBers onto 40m.

"Dave Bushong" wrote in message
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Foundation license? Which is that????





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Old December 8th 04, 08:37 PM
Airy R. Bean
 
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You might have to take the exam.

You don't have to take out the licence.

If you're as well educated as you claim, then you
could slip through all the exams with ease.

The M3/CB Fools' Licence is a gangrenous degeneration
of the technical pursuit (not a hobby) that is Ham Radio.

It is not and never was in need of "New Blood". If that
"New Blood " does not make its own gear then that "new
blood" is of the CB type and not the Ham Radio type.

Everybody had to start off with the RAE. That it was passed
with facility by otherwise-unqualified self-taught 14-year-olds
meant that there was never a need to lower the standards to
introduce the Novice (Now Intermediate) exam. That the
Novice was introduced means that there was _DEFINITELY_
no need to introduce the Fools' Licence whereby someone
starting out with no interest at all could have a "licence" after
only a two-day weekend course.

8-year-old children who do not even have the mathematical
background to work out resistances in series and parallel, the
most fundamental technical skill of any Radio Ham, are
getting Fools' Licences, thereby showing that one thing the
Fools' Licence is not, and that is a Ham Radio Licence.

I refuse to QSO with M3/CB Fools' Licensees precisely
because the licence is the thin end of the wedge leading to
non-technical Hams who are forbidden to build their own gear.

I exhort everybody who reads this post to refuse to QSO
with such licensees, not because of any personal issues, but
purely because of the threat that the M3/CB Fools' Licence
presents to Ham Radio if it is allowed to continue.

"Simon Smith" wrote in message
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Mr Bean
With the greatest respect.
I have no control over the RSGB and their decision to allow "new members"
with an easy foundation test.
Perhaps it was because the hobby was in need of some new Blood.
I was not allowed to sit the advanced test - or the intermediate test. I

had
to start off in exactly the same place as you did - at the very bottom.
I suppose you started off at the very top did you ? You must be

absolutely
brilliant !!
By the way I;m a retired research technologist with a Mathematics and
Chemistry degree - hardly a Mongolian mooron !
Why dont you write to the RSGB - perhaps they could make use of your
services in an advisory capacity.



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Old December 8th 04, 10:15 PM
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If I migh say so Mr. Bean - You sound just like the sort of person that "Ham
Radio" is trying to weed out and be rid of. Your attitude is in the
minority.
With all the modern tranceivers on the market to-day it is not necessary to
build your own.
If I had been permitted to sit, and pass all three stages of the license in
one sitting , would that have made me a more responsible person ? I think
not.
You are entitled to your opinion - and I respect it but please - everyone
has to be allowed to start somewhere.
"Airy R. Bean" wrote in message
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You might have to take the exam.

You don't have to take out the licence.

If you're as well educated as you claim, then you
could slip through all the exams with ease.

The M3/CB Fools' Licence is a gangrenous degeneration
of the technical pursuit (not a hobby) that is Ham Radio.

It is not and never was in need of "New Blood". If that
"New Blood " does not make its own gear then that "new
blood" is of the CB type and not the Ham Radio type.

Everybody had to start off with the RAE. That it was passed
with facility by otherwise-unqualified self-taught 14-year-olds
meant that there was never a need to lower the standards to
introduce the Novice (Now Intermediate) exam. That the
Novice was introduced means that there was _DEFINITELY_
no need to introduce the Fools' Licence whereby someone
starting out with no interest at all could have a "licence" after
only a two-day weekend course.

8-year-old children who do not even have the mathematical
background to work out resistances in series and parallel, the
most fundamental technical skill of any Radio Ham, are
getting Fools' Licences, thereby showing that one thing the
Fools' Licence is not, and that is a Ham Radio Licence.

I refuse to QSO with M3/CB Fools' Licensees precisely
because the licence is the thin end of the wedge leading to
non-technical Hams who are forbidden to build their own gear.

I exhort everybody who reads this post to refuse to QSO
with such licensees, not because of any personal issues, but
purely because of the threat that the M3/CB Fools' Licence
presents to Ham Radio if it is allowed to continue.

"Simon Smith" wrote in message
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Mr Bean
With the greatest respect.
I have no control over the RSGB and their decision to allow "new members"
with an easy foundation test.
Perhaps it was because the hobby was in need of some new Blood.
I was not allowed to sit the advanced test - or the intermediate test. I

had
to start off in exactly the same place as you did - at the very bottom.
I suppose you started off at the very top did you ? You must be

absolutely
brilliant !!
By the way I;m a retired research technologist with a Mathematics and
Chemistry degree - hardly a Mongolian mooron !
Why dont you write to the RSGB - perhaps they could make use of your
services in an advisory capacity.





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Old December 7th 04, 03:38 AM
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John

Congrats and "Good-on-ya".

Hope you get everything you wish for and once set up we can have a nice
chat on the air on SSB, CW, PSK31, whatever.

K7SAM



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Old December 7th 04, 09:17 AM
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Well done Simon

Cheers Bob VK2YQA

Simon Smith wrote:
I took my foundation license and morse exam to-day, and both were
sucessful.
All I have to do now is to: choose a transceiver - choose a tuner - choose
an antenna - find someone to errect it - get a log book - and I'm sure there
are lot's of other things ..... Anyway .... now I've shared my excitement
with you all - I feel much better.
John in Cornwall UK




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Old December 7th 04, 01:07 PM
H. Adam Stevens, NQ5H
 
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"Bob Bob" wrote in message
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Well done Simon

Cheers Bob VK2YQA

Simon Smith wrote:
I took my foundation license and morse exam to-day, and both were
sucessful.
All I have to do now is to: choose a transceiver - choose a tuner -
choose an antenna - find someone to errect it - get a log book - and I'm
sure there are lot's of other things ..... Anyway .... now I've shared my
excitement with you all - I feel much better.
John in Cornwall UK

Welcome to the club.
I am on 20 meters (Spiderweb Net, 14.347 MHz) as I type.
So much for usenet displacing actual ham radio operation.
73, H.


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Old December 7th 04, 05:10 PM
Peter
 
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On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 00:12:00 +0000 (UTC), "Simon Smith"
wrote:

I took my foundation license and morse exam to-day, and both were
sucessful.
All I have to do now is to: choose a transceiver - choose a tuner - choose
an antenna - find someone to errect it - get a log book - and I'm sure there
are lot's of other things ..... Anyway .... now I've shared my excitement
with you all - I feel much better.
John in Cornwall UK



Many congratulations JOhn..


Peter, G3PHO
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Old December 8th 04, 03:22 PM
Airy R. Bean
 
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Rare for you not to behave like a 5-year old.

"Peter" wrote in message
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Many congratulations JOhn..



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Old December 8th 04, 02:23 PM
Edwin Johnson
 
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On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 00:12:00 +0000 (UTC), Simon Smith
wrote:

I took my foundation license and morse exam to-day, and both were
sucessful.
All I have to do now is to: choose a transceiver - choose a tuner - choose
an antenna - find someone to errect it - get a log book - and I'm sure there
are lot's of other things ..... Anyway .... now I've shared my excitement
with you all - I feel much better.
John in Cornwall UK


Congratulations, John! You will find this hobby very rewarding in the high
quality of people you meet, an educational process, and a satisfying list of
different avenues in which to pursue the hobby. Enjoy!

....Edwin, KD5ZLB
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http://www.shreve.net/~elj ~
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~ earth with your eyes turned skyward, ~
~ for there you have been, there you long ~
~ to return." -- da Vinci ~
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Old December 8th 04, 03:19 PM
Airy R. Bean
 
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No. What you need to do now is to pass the Intermediate
and the Advanced courses to become a Radio Ham.

At the moment you are something worse than a CBer.
(The CBer doesn't have to take any exams and is considered
to be competent. He doesn't have to prove anything)

Children below the age of 10 years can do what you boast of.

"Simon Smith" wrote in message
...
I took my foundation license and morse exam to-day, and both were
sucessful.
All I have to do now is to: choose a transceiver - choose a tuner -

choose
an antenna - find someone to errect it - get a log book - and I'm sure

there
are lot's of other things ..... Anyway .... now I've shared my excitement
with you all - I feel much better.





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