If I migh say so Mr. Bean - You sound just like the sort of person that "Ham
Radio" is trying to weed out and be rid of. Your attitude is in the
minority.
With all the modern tranceivers on the market to-day it is not necessary to
build your own.
If I had been permitted to sit, and pass all three stages of the license in
one sitting , would that have made me a more responsible person ? I think
not.
You are entitled to your opinion - and I respect it but please - everyone
has to be allowed to start somewhere.
"Airy R. Bean" wrote in message
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You might have to take the exam.

You don't have to take out the licence.

If you're as well educated as you claim, then you
could slip through all the exams with ease.

The M3/CB Fools' Licence is a gangrenous degeneration
of the technical pursuit (not a hobby) that is Ham Radio.

It is not and never was in need of "New Blood". If that
"New Blood " does not make its own gear then that "new
blood" is of the CB type and not the Ham Radio type.

Everybody had to start off with the RAE. That it was passed
with facility by otherwise-unqualified self-taught 14-year-olds
meant that there was never a need to lower the standards to
introduce the Novice (Now Intermediate) exam. That the
Novice was introduced means that there was _DEFINITELY_
no need to introduce the Fools' Licence whereby someone
starting out with no interest at all could have a "licence" after
only a two-day weekend course.

8-year-old children who do not even have the mathematical
background to work out resistances in series and parallel, the
most fundamental technical skill of any Radio Ham, are
getting Fools' Licences, thereby showing that one thing the
Fools' Licence is not, and that is a Ham Radio Licence.

I refuse to QSO with M3/CB Fools' Licensees precisely
because the licence is the thin end of the wedge leading to
non-technical Hams who are forbidden to build their own gear.

I exhort everybody who reads this post to refuse to QSO
with such licensees, not because of any personal issues, but
purely because of the threat that the M3/CB Fools' Licence
presents to Ham Radio if it is allowed to continue.

"Simon Smith" wrote in message
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Mr Bean
With the greatest respect.
I have no control over the RSGB and their decision to allow "new members"
with an easy foundation test.
Perhaps it was because the hobby was in need of some new Blood.
I was not allowed to sit the advanced test - or the intermediate test. I
had
to start off in exactly the same place as you did - at the very bottom.
I suppose you started off at the very top did you ? You must be
absolutely
brilliant !!
By the way I;m a retired research technologist with a Mathematics and
Chemistry degree - hardly a Mongolian mooron !
Why dont you write to the RSGB - perhaps they could make use of your
services in an advisory capacity.

"Simon Smith" wrote in message
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If I migh say so Mr. Bean - You sound just like the sort of person that
"Ham
Radio" is trying to weed out and be rid of. Your attitude is in the
minority.
With all the modern tranceivers on the market to-day it is not necessary
to
build your own.
If I had been permitted to sit, and pass all three stages of the license
in
one sitting , would that have made me a more responsible person ? I think
not.
You are entitled to your opinion - and I respect it but please - everyone
has to be allowed to start somewhere.

Pay bean no attention, he's not even civilized enough to suicide and put us
all out of his misery. Neither his opinion or any other part of him has
earned any respect. You're right, he's an embarrassment to the fraternity
and we'd be better off without him or his attitude. (And certainly better
off without his commentary.)

W4ZCB

Geee-Zuuss! Take this crap to private email!

And the start is not the end - that of gaining a licence
and going straight on the air.

You start at the beginning and not the end.

Playing around with resistances in series and parallel,
perhaps using low voltage light bulbs is the start.

"Simon Smith" wrote in message
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You are entitled to your opinion - and I respect it but please - everyone
has to be allowed to start somewhere.

"Ham Radio" is most certainly not trying to "weed out"
those who seek that technical standards be maintained,
and who encourage others to be technically motivated, for
that is what Ham Radio is all about.

CBers and CBers-Masquerading-As-Radio-Hams might have
that sort of agenda, however.

I append a short article to assist you in disambiguating the two.

"Simon Smith" wrote in message
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If I migh say so Mr. Bean - You sound just like the sort of person that
"Ham
Radio" is trying to weed out and be rid of. Your attitude is in the
minority.

What is Ham Radio?

Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for those who
are interested in the science of radio wave
propagation and who are also interested in the
way that their radios function. It has a long-standing
tradition of providing a source of engineers who
are born naturals.

Ham Radio awakens in its aficionados a whole-life
fascination with all things technical and gives
an all-abiding curiosity to improve one's scientific
knowledge. It's a great swimming pool, please dive in!

This excitement causes a wish to share the experience
with ones fellow man, and shows itself in the
gentlemanly traditions of Ham Radio.

Radio Hams are qualified to design, build and then
operate their own pieces of equipment. They do this
with gusto, and also repair and modify their own
equipment.

The excitement that drives a Radio Ham starts with
relatively simple technologies at first, perhaps making
his own Wimshurst machine and primary cells. Small pieces
of test equipment follow, possibly multimeters and signal
generators. Then comes receivers and transmitters. It is with
the latter that communication with like-minded technically
motivated people takes off. The scope for technical
development grows with the years
and now encompasses DSP and DDS. There is also a great deal
of excitement in the areas of computer programming to
be learnt and applied.

The technical excitement motivates Radio Hams to compete
with each other to determine who has designed and manufactured
the best-quality station. This competitiveness is found in DXing,
competitions and fox-hunts.

-----OOOOO----

However, beware! A Ham Radio licence is such a
desirable thing to have that there are large
numbers of people who wish to be thought of
as Radio Hams when, in fact, they are nothing
of the kind! Usually such people are a
variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they buy their
radios off the shelf and send them back to be
repaired; they are not interested in technical discussion
and sneer at those who are; they have no idea how
their radios work inside and have no wish to find out;
they are free with rather silly personal insults;
they have not satisfied any technical qualification
and their licences prevent the use of
self-designed-and-built equipment.

These CB types engage in the competitive activities
with their Cheque-Book-purchased off-the-shelf radios
in a forlorn effort to prove that they are Radio Hams.

No _REAL_ Radio Hams are deceived by such people!

Ohh Well... Happy Christmas Mr Bean...
Simon
"Airy R. Bean" wrote in message
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And the start is not the end - that of gaining a licence
and going straight on the air.

You start at the beginning and not the end.

Playing around with resistances in series and parallel,
perhaps using low voltage light bulbs is the start.

"Simon Smith" wrote in message
...
You are entitled to your opinion - and I respect it but please - everyone
has to be allowed to start somewhere.

Crapmas you mean, an invention of those of the
mentally ill who find solace in the world of make-believe?

"Simon Smith" wrote in message
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Ohh Well... Happy Christmas Mr Bean...