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Old December 28th 04, 02:32 PM
Julia Child
 
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What's with all the recipe bull**** posts?

Who's posting these?

Ed Price wrote:

oil.
Add a little water, season, then add the carcass.
Simmer for half an hour keeping the stock thick.
Remove the carcass and add the vegetables slowly to the stock,
so that it remains boiling the whole time.
Cover the pot and simmer till vegetables are tender
(2 hours approximately).
Continue seasoning to taste.
Before serving, add butter and pasta,
serve piping with hot bread and butter.

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Old December 28th 04, 03:13 PM
Bob Miller
 
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On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 09:32:21 -0500, Julia Child
wrote:

ignore

What's with all the recipe bull**** posts?

Who's posting these?


Well, this is the info I received. I don't really understand it, but
this is what I was told:

Hello,

this message is never sent unsolicited. Don't panic.
You - or more precisely someone using your mail address - have
posted a test message to the following Newsgroups:

de.alt.test,bit.listserv.test,rec.radio.amateur.an tenna

Your message was sent

Sat, 25 Dec 2004 21:01:30 GMT

travelling from your location to the news.karlvalentin.de (Germany).
Your article arrived here at Sun Dec 26 2004 00:40:05 +0100 (CET)
and this is the way it went (read from back to front):


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| Subject: Modification of G5RV - need help on this
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| soften.
| In skillet, brown the meat in a little olive oil,
| then add onions, peppers, and celery (all chopped finely)
| and season well.
| Place in a large bowl and cool.
| Add seasoned breadcrumbs and a little of the tomato gravy,
| enough to make the mixture pliable.
| Divide the stuffing among the cabbage leaves then roll.
| Place seam down in a baking pan.
| Ladle tomato gravy on top,
| and bake at 325¦ for 30 - 45 minutes.
|
|
|
| Umbilical Cordon Bleu
|
| Nothing is so beautiful as the bond between mother and child,
| so why not consume it?
| Children or chicken breasts will work wonderfully also.
|



Ed Price wrote:

oil.
Add a little water, season, then add the carcass.
Simmer for half an hour keeping the stock thick.
Remove the carcass and add the vegetables slowly to the stock,
so that it remains boiling the whole time.
Cover the pot and simmer till vegetables are tender
(2 hours approximately).
Continue seasoning to taste.
Before serving, add butter and pasta,
serve piping with hot bread and butter.


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Old December 28th 04, 05:21 PM
Miguel Cruz
 
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Bob Miller wrote:
Julia Child wrote:
What's with all the recipe bull**** posts?

Who's posting these?


Well, this is the info I received. I don't really understand it, but
this is what I was told:

this message is never sent unsolicited. Don't panic.
You - or more precisely someone using your mail address - have
posted a test message to the following Newsgroups:

de.alt.test,bit.listserv.test,rec.radio.amateur.an tenna


That's just a side-effect of the message having been posted to a 'test'
newsgroup - basically irrelevant to the real issue.

Look up 'hipcrime' in google for more info about what went on with the baby
recipes.

miguel
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Old December 28th 04, 06:32 PM
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The term Faraday screen, sield, or cage, has been applied to perforated
continuous sheets of metal in this thread. That`s generally wrong.

A Faraday screen, shield, or cage is a network of parallel wires or
strips connected together at one end but disconnected from each other at
their opposite ends. I`ve worked at several broadcast stations which
used Faraday screens at every tower to magnetically couple the tower to
the feedline while eliminating all capacitive coupling. The purpose is
to disadvantage harmonic coupling to the tower in which capacitance
favors due to lowered capacitive reactance at the harmonic frequencies.

At the stations, two coupled coils are used. They are close together and
share the same axis. Between the two coil forms is erected a heavy plate
sliced with parallel cuts. These start at one edge of the plate but end
before reaching quite to the other edge. The purpose is to eliminate
capacitive coupling between the coils but to allow tight magnetic
coupling between the coils. In the broadcast station they also have
another salutary effect. The tower`s lightning strikes nearly all are
terminated on the Faraday screen and kept out of the radio equipment.

A Faraday screen, shield, or cage is a network of parallel wires or
strips connected on one end but disconnected from each other at their
opposite ends. It`s similar to a conductive comb. The connected ends of
the wires are usually grounded.

The open-circuit wires prohibit circulating current from wire to wire.
Fields of the induced current would cancel the field of the inducing
current thus canceling inductive coupling. Due to the gaps, the screen
is transparent to the magnetic field but the wires capture the
electrostatic lines of force and eliminate capacitive coupling through
the screen.

A screen properly grounded at both ends of the wires sliminates magnstic
and electrostatic coupling. It is a shield but not a Faraday shield.
A continuous conducting shield is not a Faraday shield, even if
perforated with small holes. A lot of screened rooms have been
constructed from copper window screen. It decouples the contentents of
the room from the whole world when done correctly.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI

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Old December 28th 04, 07:47 PM
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Richard Harrison wrote:


A Faraday screen, shield, or cage is a network of parallel wires or
strips connected together at one end but disconnected from each other
at their opposite ends. I`ve worked at several broadcast stations which
used Faraday screens


The special comb-like structure that Richard describes, which is
deliberately constructed to block electric fields but transmit magnetic
fields, is normally called a Faraday "screen" - but not a cage.

The term Faraday "cage" is reserved for a complete conducting enclosure
that blocks both electric and magnetic fields from entering the
interior.

The rest of the discussion is about how well an incomplete or penetrated
enclosure might work as a Faraday cage.


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73 from Ian G3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB)
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek


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Old December 28th 04, 09:10 PM
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Ian White, G3SEK wrote:
"---but not a cage."

A cage according to my American dictionary is:
"A boxlike receptacle or enclosure for confining birds or other animals,
made with openwork of wires, bars, etc."

Ian sent me to my dictionary of electronics which reads:
"Faraday cage-See Faraday Shield"

Usage varies from place to place. I don`t know if I`m vindicated or
stand corrected.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI

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Old December 28th 04, 09:46 PM
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In message , Richard
Harrison writes
Ian White, G3SEK wrote:
"---but not a cage."

A cage according to my American dictionary is:
"A boxlike receptacle or enclosure for confining birds or other animals,
made with openwork of wires, bars, etc."

Ian sent me to my dictionary of electronics which reads:
"Faraday cage-See Faraday Shield"

Usage varies from place to place. I don`t know if I`m vindicated or
stand corrected.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI


Was it not an Ice Bucket which Faraday used to demonstrate the fact that
the electrostatic charges repelled each other as far as possible, and
therefore stayed on the outside of the bucket? The inside was
electrically dead.
Ian.

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Old December 29th 04, 09:27 AM
Ian White, G3SEK
 
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Richard Harrison wrote:
Ian White, G3SEK wrote:
"---but not a cage."

A cage according to my American dictionary is:
"A boxlike receptacle or enclosure for confining birds or other animals,
made with openwork of wires, bars, etc."

Ian sent me to my dictionary of electronics which reads:
"Faraday cage-See Faraday Shield"

Usage varies from place to place. I don`t know if I`m vindicated or
stand corrected.


Me neither! The main lesson is that we have to be careful to define what
we mean, because there's a strong risk that other people might
understand something different.

Faraday cages are used at CERN and other large particle accelerators, to
keep the sensitive particle detectors isolated from the pulsed megawatts
of RF energy that are kicking the particles around the ring. CERN is an
international facility, so each country has its own experiments using
separate Faraday cages.

Several years ago, I needed to call a friend who was working at CERN.
Someone picked up the phone, and a voice said "British Cage".

"Well," I thought, "that certainly puts us in our place..."


--
73 from Ian G3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB)
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek
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Old December 29th 04, 11:22 AM
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"Julia Child" wrote in message
...
What's with all the recipe bull**** posts?

Who's posting these?

Ed Price wrote:


SNIP

No, I didn't write that. However, "Julia", rest assured that, by posting
your question, your address will soon be harvested for use by the Hipcrime
bot in the DOS attack. Don't reply, don't post about it, don't help the bot.

Ed
wb6wsn


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