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Slick:
[snip] And not the complex conjugate of Z0. : : This is ABSOLUTELY WRONG! The reflection coefficient is zero only when the Zload is the conjugate of the Zo. Go look it up in any BASIC RF book! Slick [snip] Easy now boy! You'r almost as bad as me! It is entirely possible, in fact I know this to be true, that there can be more than one *definition* of "the reflection coefficient". And so... one cannot say definitively that one particular defintion is WRONG. If the definition of the reflection coefficient is given as rho = (Z - R)/(Z + R) then that's what it is. This particular definition corresponds to the situation which results in rho being null when the unknown Z is equal to the reference impedance R, i.e. an "image match". If the definition is given as rho = (Z - conj(R))/(Z + conj(R)) then rho will be null when the unknown Z is equal to the conjugate of the reference impedance conj(R), i.e. a "conjugate match". Nothing is WRONG if the definition is first set up to correspond to what the definer is trying to accomplish. And so one has got to take care when making statements about RIGHT ways and WRONG ways to define things. Everyone is entitled to go to hell their own way if they are the onesmaking the definitions. Just as long as no incorrect conclusions are drawn from the definitions. That may occur when folks don't accept or agree on a definition. OTOH.... Definitions and semantics aside, what we should really be interested in is what is the physical meaning of any particular definition and what are its' practical uses. Clearly if R is a real constant resistance and contains no reactance for all frequencies [R = r + j0] then the two definitions are equivalent i.e. rho = (Z - R)/(Z + R) = (Z - conj(R))/(Z + conj(R)) since R = conj(R). This is the situation for most common amateur radio transmsission line problems and so in these simple cases it clearly doesn't matter which definition one takes. But the question of definitions for rho is even broader than that. We amateurs usually only examine a very small class of problems, and there are many more and usually much more interesting and challenging problems that require the use of reflection [scattering] parameters. Now for broadband problems where the reference impedance R is in general a complex function of frequency, e.g. R(w) = r(w) + jx(w), one is faced with the problem of creating a definition for rho which will be practical and useful and easy to measure... For an example of a practical consideration, with R a constant resistance it is easy to manufacture wide ranging reflectometers, like the Bird Model 43 since all it needs inside is a replica of the R, simply a the equivalent of a garden variety 50 Ohm resistor. But if the reference impedance R needs to be a complex function of frequency it is not so easy to design an instrument to measure the reflection coefficient over a broad band. In fact if the reference impedance R(w) = r(w) + jx(w) corresponds to the driving point impedance of a real physical system such as 18,000 feet of telephone line operated over DC to 50MHz, then it can be proved using network synthesis theory that one cannot exactly physically create the conjugate R(w) = r(w) - jx(w) for such a line. How then to make a satisfactory reflectometer for this application? To synthesize the reference impedance for such a "broad band Bird" one would have to be approximated over some narrow band, etc... Not an easy problem... Actually, under the general so-called Scattering Formalism, the reference impedance can be chosen arbitrarily, and often is, to make the particular physical problem being addressed easy to solve. Within the general Scattering Formalism the so-called port "wave variables" a and b [a is the incident wave and b is the reflected wave] are nothing more than linear combinations of the port "electrical variables" v and i [v is the port voltage and i is the port current]. Thus each port on a network has an electrical vector [v, i]' and a wave vector [a, b]' and these two vectors are related to each other by a simple linear transformation matrix made up of the sometimes arbitrarily chosen reference impedance(s). For example for the "normal" case we are all used to where r is a fixed constant then... [a, b]' = M [v, i]' where M is the matrix of the transformation. Specifically... b = v - ri a = v + ri and the 2x2 matrix M relating the "waves" to the "electricals" has the first row [1, -r] and second row [1, r], i.e. M is equal to: |1 -r | |1 +r| It is easy to show with simple algebra that this definition of the relation M betweent the waves and the electricals yeilds the common defiintion of the reflection coefficient rho = b/a = (Z - r)/(Z + r). The way linear algebraists view this is that the vector of waves a and b is just the vector of electricals rotated and stretched a bit! In other words the waves are just another way of looking at the electricals. Or... the waves and the electricals are just different manifestations of the same things, their specific numerical values depend only upon your viewpoint, i.e. what kind of measuring instruements you are using, i.e. voltmeters and ammeters or reflectometers with a particularly chosen reference impedance. All that said, it should be clear that one can arbitrarily chose the matrix transformation [reference impedance] which relates the waves to the electricals to give you the kinds of wave variables that makes your particular physical problem easy to solve. i.e. it dictates the kind of reflectometer you must use to make the measurements. The Bird Model 43 is only one such instrument and it is useful only for one particular and common kind of narrow band set of problems. For broad band problems one needs an entirely different set of definitions, etc... And so... In transmission line problems it us usual to choose the characterisitic impedance Zo of the transmission media to be the reference impedance for the system under examination, but that is certainly not necessary, only convenient. And... if you want a null rho to correspond to a "conjugate match" you must choose the reference impdance in your reflectometer to be the conjugate of the reference impedance of the system under examination, and if you want a null rho to correspond to an "image match" then you must choose the reference impedance in your reflectometer to be identical to the reference impedance of the system under examination. Every one is entitled to go to hell their own way when defining the wave to electrical variable transformations required to make their measurements and solve their problems and this will result in a variety of definitions for the scattering [reflection] parameters. Nothing more nothing less. Others may not agree with your tools, methodologies and definitions, but just be careful to follow through and be consistent with your definitions, measurements, algebra, and arithmetic and you will always get the right answers. Thoughts, comments? -- Peter K1PO Indialantic By-the-Sea, FL. |