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Old August 26th 03, 04:18 AM
Dr. Slick
 
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"David Robbins" wrote in message ...

Incorrect. You need the conjugate in the numerator if the Zo is
complex. If it is purely real, WHICH MOST TEXTS ASSUME, then you can
use the normal equation.


sorry, the derivation for the table in the book i sent before is for the
general case of a complex Zo. they then go on to simplify for an ideal line
and for a nearly ideal line... nowhere does a conjugate show up.


Please post this derivation again.

When they say "ideal line" do they mean purely real?


and that reference you give is not for a load on a transmission line, it is
talking about a generator supplying power to a load... a completely
different animal.


Not at all really. The impedance seen by the load can be from
either a source or a source hooked up with a transmission line. It
doesn't matter with this equation.


As Reg points out about the normal equation:


"Dear Dr Slick, it's very easy.

Take a real, long telephone line with Zo = 300 - j250 ohms at 1000 Hz.

Load it with a real resistor of 10 ohms in series with a real
inductance of
40 millihenrys.

The inductance has a reactance of 250 ohms at 1000 Hz.

If you agree with the following formula,

Magnitude of Reflection Coefficient of the load, ZL, relative to line
impedance

= ( ZL - Zo ) / ( ZL + Zo ) = 1.865 which exceeds unity,

and has an angle of -59.9 degrees.

The resulting standing waves may also be calculated.

Are you happy now ?"
---
Reg, G4FGQ



Well, i wasn't happy, because how can you have a R.C. greater than
one into a passive network??? Quite impossible.

But, if you use the conjugate formula, the R.C. will indeed be
less than one.

Convince yourself.


Slick
 
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