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Russ J. December 30th 04 04:15 PM

HAMSTIK DIPOLE
 
Has anyone used these mobile antennas in the dipole mode? How about a
design for a multiband array on a small rotor?

TNX

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Cecil Moore December 30th 04 07:56 PM

Russ J. wrote:
Has anyone used these mobile antennas in the dipole mode? How about a
design for a multiband array on a small rotor?


Hamstick dipoles work pretty well for 20m-10m. Not well for 40m
and terrible for 75m (unless the application is a special one
like the portable NVIS application in the latest QST).
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73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


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Radio Man December 31st 04 10:34 AM

Can one use open ladderline with a 20 mtr hamstick & the appropriate
tuner & work 20-10 mtrs.?
"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
...
Russ J. wrote:
Has anyone used these mobile antennas in the dipole mode? How about a
design for a multiband array on a small rotor?


Hamstick dipoles work pretty well for 20m-10m. Not well for 40m
and terrible for 75m (unless the application is a special one
like the portable NVIS application in the latest QST).
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


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K9SQG December 31st 04 03:19 PM

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Bill Cherepy December 31st 04 05:43 PM

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:15:01 GMT, "Russ J."
wrote:

Has anyone used these mobile antennas in the dipole mode? How about a
design for a multiband array on a small rotor?


Last fall we used a pair of 40M Hamsticks up about 30 ft for a demo at
a local school and we made contacts from our location near Atlanta, GA
to stations as far north as Cape Cod and as far south as Florida. We
operated strictly 40 and we ran 100 watts.

73, and Happy New Year,



Bill Cherepy
Grayson, GA

W5DXP December 31st 04 07:04 PM

Radio Man wrote:
Can one use open ladderline with a 20 mtr hamstick & the appropriate
tuner & work 20-10 mtrs.?


The problem with using hamsticks on higher frequencies is the loss in
the coil. The 20m hamstick has too much inductance for any higher
frequency and thus has more loss. Losses are probably worst case at the
self-resonant frequency but I don't know what that frequency is for a
20m hamstick and I don't have a 20m hamstick to test. Perhaps someone
with a 20m hamstick and an MFJ-259 will run that test and report the
results. In general, though, it is not a good idea to use hamsticks on
higher frequencies than their resonant frequencies.

However, using parallel 18 MHz hamsticks with ladder-line to cover 20m,
17m, and 15m is probably not a terrible idea.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


chuck December 31st 04 07:07 PM

Are the radiation resistances for various Hamstiks published
anywhere?

TIA.

Chuck

Bob Miller December 31st 04 07:17 PM

On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 10:34:22 GMT, "Radio Man"
wrote:

Can one use open ladderline with a 20 mtr hamstick & the appropriate
tuner & work 20-10 mtrs.?


Lakeview sells a dipole mount for use with its Hamsticks. It would
seem you could put the thing up, attach your coax feedline, and then
just change out Hamsticks for the appropos bands.

Bob
k5qwg


"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
...
Russ J. wrote:
Has anyone used these mobile antennas in the dipole mode? How about a
design for a multiband array on a small rotor?


Hamstick dipoles work pretty well for 20m-10m. Not well for 40m
and terrible for 75m (unless the application is a special one
like the portable NVIS application in the latest QST).
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


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'Doc January 1st 05 08:30 PM

Radio Man wrote:

Can one use open ladderline with a 20 mtr hamstick & the appropriate
tuner & work 20-10 mtrs.?


Sure. Don't know if it would be worth the effort, but it's
certainly possible. You're basically trading 'coax' problems
for 'ladderline' problems, there's a differnece in the mechanics.
No idea if the benifits would be worth the effort...
'Doc

W5DXP January 2nd 05 04:44 AM

Chuck asks:
Are the radiation resistances for various Hamstiks published

anywhere?

Since the Hamsticks are approximately 8 feet long, these values from
the ARRL Antenna Book should be in the same ballpark. 75m ~ 0.8 ohms,
40m ~ 3.0 ohms, 30m ~ 5.8 ohms, 20m ~ 11.0 ohms, 17m ~19 ohms, 12m ~ 29
ohms.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp



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