"Reg Edwards" wrote in message ...
....
But these days so-called
engineers are more inclined to misplace their blind faith in computer
programs. ;o)

Computer programs...computer programs...now where have I seen them.
Oh, yes, it's this chap in Great Britain that offers a bunch of them
for free, imperfections and all...

;o) backatcha -- and of course, since this is an amateur group, there
are no engineers here.

Cheers,
Tom
who comes equipped with _pen_, paper and computer programs--and
sometimes maybe even a brain (smarter than the average bear?).
Pencils waste too much time. (Though not so bad as newsgroups in that
regard.)