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Andy September 9th 03 10:49 PM

which 4:1 Balun to use
 
Can anyone tell me what is the best 4:1 balun to use with a wire dipole
configuration a voltage or current balun?
I want to be able to tune with the FT-1000 MKV Field internal tuner.

Thanks

Andy



David Robbins September 9th 03 11:30 PM


"Andy" wrote in message
...
Can anyone tell me what is the best 4:1 balun to use with a wire dipole
configuration a voltage or current balun?
I want to be able to tune with the FT-1000 MKV Field internal tuner.

Thanks

Andy


a 4:1 for a dipole?? all you need is a simple choke, especially if you are
going to have a tuner anyway.



Andy September 10th 03 10:55 AM

Hi Dave

I am new to all this. I have heard that the tuner might have problems
tunning on all bands if I don't use a 4:1 balun.

Are you saying that I don't need a balun just a choke?

What sort of choke would you reccomend buying for the job?

Thanks

Andy


"David Robbins" wrote in message
...

"Andy" wrote in message
...
Can anyone tell me what is the best 4:1 balun to use with a wire dipole
configuration a voltage or current balun?
I want to be able to tune with the FT-1000 MKV Field internal tuner.

Thanks

Andy


a 4:1 for a dipole?? all you need is a simple choke, especially if you

are
going to have a tuner anyway.





Ken Bessler September 10th 03 01:08 PM


"Andy" wrote in message
...
Hi Dave

I am new to all this. I have heard that the tuner might have problems
tunning on all bands if I don't use a 4:1 balun.

Are you saying that I don't need a balun just a choke?

What sort of choke would you reccomend buying for the job?

Thanks

Andy


Andy - I went through this with the group a few weeks ago. I
wound up winding 9 turns of rg8x coax around a 2-1/2" form
giving a coil with a 2-5/8" diameter (at the centerline of the coax).
I ended up with an inductance of 4.798 uH.

If you made the coil bigger it might be better - some on this
group expressed worries that such a tight coil would have
problems with the center conductor migrating to the inside
of the coil...... I simply used a form that I had.

After winding the coil, I glued it together with superglue,
dusted with baking soda (to set the glue instantly)......

BTW my antenna is a 153'2" dipole, wrapped around a
brick building - the antenna tunes 1.8-30 mhz with a Z11
tuner just fine. The antenna has a 1:1 swr at 2.390 mhz.....

Good luck!

Ken KG0WX




Tarmo Tammaru September 10th 03 03:58 PM

Ken,

I thought you were using a real tuner. Having it work with a 1000MP internal
tuner seems optimistic. What's your SWR on 10m ?

Tam/WB2TT
"Ken Bessler" wrote in message
...
Andy - I went through this with the group a few weeks ago. I
wound up winding 9 turns of rg8x coax around a 2-1/2" form
giving a coil with a 2-5/8" diameter (at the centerline of the coax).
I ended up with an inductance of 4.798 uH.

If you made the coil bigger it might be better - some on this
group expressed worries that such a tight coil would have
problems with the center conductor migrating to the inside
of the coil...... I simply used a form that I had.

After winding the coil, I glued it together with superglue,
dusted with baking soda (to set the glue instantly)......

BTW my antenna is a 153'2" dipole, wrapped around a
brick building - the antenna tunes 1.8-30 mhz with a Z11
tuner just fine. The antenna has a 1:1 swr at 2.390 mhz.....

Good luck!

Ken KG0WX






Bob Miller September 11th 03 02:46 AM

On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 10:55:06 +0100, "Andy"
wrote:

Hi Dave

I am new to all this. I have heard that the tuner might have problems
tunning on all bands if I don't use a 4:1 balun.

Are you saying that I don't need a balun just a choke?

What sort of choke would you reccomend buying for the job?


From the ARRL Antenna Book, for a 3.5-30 mhz choke, coil a 10 foot
section of coax into 7 turns, and tape them together rope-style (this
is for rg-8, 58, 59, 8x or 213).

Bob
k5qwg


Thanks

Andy


"David Robbins" wrote in message
...

"Andy" wrote in message
...
Can anyone tell me what is the best 4:1 balun to use with a wire dipole
configuration a voltage or current balun?
I want to be able to tune with the FT-1000 MKV Field internal tuner.

Thanks

Andy


a 4:1 for a dipole?? all you need is a simple choke, especially if you

are
going to have a tuner anyway.






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