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Old October 12th 03, 05:56 PM
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What does BPL sound like? Can someone post a wav file somewhere so it can
be identified? Is it worse that the Pennsylvania QSO party?

BPL, at least for Michigan. I don't know when it will be an actual

reality,
as opposed to being in the planning stages, but will keep current with

their
project!




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Old October 12th 03, 05:55 PM
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"James Wilson" wrote in message
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What does BPL sound like? Can someone post a wav file somewhere so it can
be identified? Is it worse that the Pennsylvania QSO party?


The ARRL website has a recording. It would make things like the PA QSO
party (and other communications) nearly impossible.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

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Old October 12th 03, 06:40 PM
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What does BPL sound like? Can someone post a wav file somewhere so it can
be identified? Is it worse that the Pennsylvania QSO party?


The video on the ARRL website shows a couple of BPL variants ...
one that uses SS and another (test area 4) that uses OFDM.
They sound different.

Again, I cannot over-emphasize the importance of making SURE
that complaints of "BPL interference" are REALLY from BPL and
not some other source.

The LAST thing we need now is a bunch of people "crying wolf."
(Real complaints are one thing, crying wolf will only HURT us.)

73,
Carl - wk3c

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Old October 12th 03, 11:46 PM
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www.arrl.org follow the links.

And yes its much worse than a contest. You wont even hear the contesters.

Dan/W4NTI

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What does BPL sound like? Can someone post a wav file somewhere so it can
be identified? Is it worse that the Pennsylvania QSO party?

BPL, at least for Michigan. I don't know when it will be an actual

reality,
as opposed to being in the planning stages, but will keep current with

their
project!






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Old October 13th 03, 06:23 AM
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"James Wilson" wrote in message ...
What does BPL sound like? Can someone post a wav file somewhere so it can
be identified?



The ARRL website is loaded with video and/or audio files which will
clearly demonstrate what the various forms of BPL signals sound like
and the havoc they generate throughout the HF spectrum.

http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/HTML/plc/#Video


Is it worse that the Pennsylvania QSO party?


If BBL is broadly implemented you won't have to worry about the PAQP.
There won't be a PAQP.


BPL, at least for Michigan. I don't know when it will be an actual

reality,
as opposed to being in the planning stages, but will keep current with

their
project!


w3rv


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Old October 13th 03, 05:07 PM
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"Brian Kelly" wrote in message
om...
"James Wilson" wrote in message

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What does BPL sound like? Can someone post a wav file somewhere so it

can
be identified?



The ARRL website is loaded with video and/or audio files which will
clearly demonstrate what the various forms of BPL signals sound like
and the havoc they generate throughout the HF spectrum.

http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/HTML/plc/#Video


That helps a lot. I see what was meant by "geiger counter" sound now, as
well as the other sort of noise.

I do have a spectrum analyzer here, so that will help, when the day comes.
At the moment, the only broadband available here is DSL or cable modem,
which have been well-behaved neighbors. I'm using a cable modem now, and I
don't notice anything from it, even when I tune into the bands that it uses.
We have regular overflights scanning for leakage, so it appears that Comcast
is making the effort.



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Old October 13th 03, 07:55 AM
Steve Silverwood
 
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In article ,
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What does BPL sound like? Can someone post a wav file somewhere so it can
be identified? Is it worse that the Pennsylvania QSO party?


The ARRL web site (
www.arrl.org) has a video that can be downloaded that
shows how severe this interference can be. They took a vehicle equipped
with HF equipment and drove around areas where BPL is in use as a test
program. The noise levels are horrendous.

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-- //Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Fountain Valley, CA
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Old October 15th 03, 03:28 AM
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James Wilson wrote:
What does BPL sound like? Can someone post a wav file somewhere so it can
be identified? Is it worse that the Pennsylvania QSO party?


Did someone take over a frequency you owned?

- Mike KB3EIA -

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Old October 16th 03, 03:58 AM
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Mike Coslo wrote in message .net...
James Wilson wrote:
What does BPL sound like? Can someone post a wav file somewhere so it can
be identified? Is it worse that the Pennsylvania QSO party?


Did someone take over a frequency you owned?

- Mike KB3EIA -


Mike, that was kinda rude.
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