"Buck" wrote in message
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 02:17:15 -0500, "David 01"
wrote:


UNLESS you're working through repeaters and live in the valleys of a
mountainous area. Then you're working bounces and if you get too high
(high
off the ground, but not as high as the hilltops around you), you can get
up
out of the signal.



One can also have a problem with height if the get so high as to key
multiple repeaters on a common frequency. While this is more commonly
a problem with aeronautical mobile stations, it also happens around
here for stations on hills between several repeaters or whose beams
line up with more than one repeater.

Buck

Buck
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For what it's worth.

The discussion was a M2 HORIZONTAL loop. Not normally used with a
vertically polarized repeater. Try sticking to the subject.

Dan/W4NTI

"Charlie" wrote in message
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Raised my M2 Horizontal Loop antenna from 20ft above ground to 45ft above
ground and picked up a full S-unit (s7 to s8) at a receiving station 70
miles away. Mode was SSB and frequency was 144.200 mhz. Also my receiving
ability was enhanced dramatically....

The HIGHER the BETTER !!!!

Photos and tech info on the M2 HO Loop antenna at the site listed
below....

--

Charlie
Ham Radio - AD5TH
www.ad5th.com


Unless the feedline loss equals the gain of the added height.

Dan/W4NTI

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 22:48:27 GMT, "Dan"
wrote:


On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 02:17:15 -0500, "David 01"
wrote:


UNLESS you're working through repeaters and live in the valleys of a
mountainous area. Then you're working bounces and if you get too high
(high
off the ground, but not as high as the hilltops around you), you can get
up
out of the signal.


The discussion was a M2 HORIZONTAL loop. Not normally used with a
vertically polarized repeater. Try sticking to the subject.

Dan/W4NTI


I didn't start the repeater discussion, I followed it.

Thanks tho.

Buck

Buck
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For what it's worth.

The subject on every message I saw SAID "The HIGHER the BETTER"!!!


"Buck" wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 22:48:27 GMT, "Dan"
wrote:


On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 02:17:15 -0500, "David 01"
wrote:


UNLESS you're working through repeaters and live in the valleys of a
mountainous area. Then you're working bounces and if you get too high
(high
off the ground, but not as high as the hilltops around you), you can
get
up
out of the signal.


The discussion was a M2 HORIZONTAL loop. Not normally used with a
vertically polarized repeater. Try sticking to the subject.

Dan/W4NTI


I didn't start the repeater discussion, I followed it.

Thanks tho.

Buck

Buck
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For what it's worth.

Hi Dan and you make a valid point about feedline loss. I am feeding M2 HO
LOOP with 65 ft of 9914F low loss coax which incidentally enough is a
"direct bury" coax. I use a 35 ft run of 9914F for my Ringo Ranger II. I
have a 50 ft run of the same 9914F direct buried feeding my Hustler 5-BTV
vertical. At HF frequencies especially with 9914F there is virtually no loss
at 50ft.

Link for 9914F coax, jumpers and assemblies and coax loss tables. The 9914F
is within .1 db of 9913 loss figures but is more flexible and can be buried
directly into mother earth....
1. http://www.radio-ware.com

TY for making a good observation but in my case your "preaching to the
choir". Hi Hi

--

Charlie
Ham Radio - AD5TH
www.ad5th.com
Live Blues Music
www.492acousticblues.com




"Dan" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Charlie" wrote in message
...
Raised my M2 Horizontal Loop antenna from 20ft above ground to 45ft above
ground and picked up a full S-unit (s7 to s8) at a receiving station 70
miles away. Mode was SSB and frequency was 144.200 mhz. Also my receiving
ability was enhanced dramatically....

The HIGHER the BETTER !!!!

Photos and tech info on the M2 HO Loop antenna at the site listed
below....

--

Charlie
Ham Radio - AD5TH
www.ad5th.com


Unless the feedline loss equals the gain of the added height.

Dan/W4NTI

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 08:18:40 -0500, "David 01"
wrote:

The subject on every message I saw SAID "The HIGHER the BETTER"!!!


Like so many usenet threads, this one has a fork. No big deal, at
least to me. It just happens.


Buck
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For what it's worth.