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Richard
So the principle is good tho in Kraus case he used two feeds instead of one. Doing it his way with just 2 elements makes it very sensirive to frequency which obviously not a good thing as you point out. Your post does have my interest as I would like to see what gain he arrived at by placig all radiation to the front. In my case the gain just fell short of 16dbi I will look it up in the antenna books, thanks for pointing that one out Best regards Art KB9MZ......XG "Richard Harrison" wrote in message ... Art Unwin wrote: "I have just come to realise that if one drew a polygon of element phases in an array and all elements were 180 degrees to its companion element and excluding the driven elemment, the max gain and max front to back will occur at the same frequency!" Would an antenna made entirely of pairs of identical out of phase elements be a good antenna? A "polygon of element phases" must refer to the resultant current in each element and their combined effect at a point (P) for example in the far field. Art must have resolved and composed vectors or phasors at some time. The resultant of any number of vectors can all add to zero or to some other number and direction. A zero sum often happens in physics when systems are in equiblirium. Newton said that any action results in an equal and opposite reaction. Application of a new force often causes no loss in equilibrium, just a corresponding added reaction. The reflected wave from an antenna may change in magnitude in proportion to an incidebt wave yet be nearly exactly equal in magnitude and 180-degrees out of phase with the incident wave, if the reflection is perfect. A polygon is a closed plane bounded by straight sides. It can represenht forces. Art asked if there were anything written about complete front to back cancellation in two radiators carrying oppositely directed signals if I understood the question. Indeed Kraus of W8JK fame has a lot to say about the possibility. Kraus writes about an "Array of Two Driven 1/2-wavelength El;ements. General Case with Equal Currents of Any Phase Relation." in his 1950 edition of "Antennas". It includes on page 294, field patterns for physical spacings and feed phasings. For example, at a spacing of 1/8-wavelength and a phasing of 135-degrees, there is complete cancellation in one direction while there is maximum radiation in the opposite direction. That`s the good news. Now the bad. On page 297 Kraus says: "However, in the flat-top (an advantage placing all elements at maximum height) antenna such losses may have considerable effect on the gain (as the feedpoint resistance is very low). Therefore, the question of losses and of radiating efficiency will be treated in this section in connection with a discussion of arrays of two closely spaced, out-of-phase elements. The term "closely-spaced" will be taken to mean that the elements are spaced 1/4 wavelength or less." Then, Kraus shows another fly in the ointment on page 300: "Hence the Q for 1/8 wavelength spacing is about four times the Q for 1/4 wavelength spacing. Very large Q indicates a large amount of stored energy near the antenna in proportion to the energy radiated per cycle. This also means that the antenna acts like a sharply tuned circuit." So much for bandwidth! Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI |