by the way if you wanna be a free trucker go with the best volvo lol i
will by a kw.or pete. next time i see you radio police cops
trying to get my tag number i may have to go to jail but i will make dam
shure that wil be your last number you get. just think 80.000lbs runing
you off the road

Many truckers are smart enough to become hams and have done so. So
why can't other truckers do the same?

Truck drivers may do a good service, but they do a dis-service when
they freeband.



On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 11:35:43 -0800, "John Smith"
wrote:

"Freebanding" is quite common these days.
However, from my observations, you are much more likely to find a ham on CB
having fun and rabble-rousing with the truckers and "country folk" than a
trucker on the 10 meter band.
Be it as it is... truckers probably well outnumber hams in the US... and
CERTAINLY provide a much more valuable service.

Regards

--
73 for now
Buck
N4PGW

"drwxr-xr-x" i'm_a_troll.org wrote
Clarence_A wrote:
"H J" wrote in message

the band we truckers,took over we dont need big hf radios
like
keenwood
etc.we use low cost radios with big power.also the high power
black
radio people are makeing there way up 28hz.the new super bowl
.we
black,white folks are meeting togeter.untiy day is here on
28mhz

Can't spell, can not clearly communicate, and will spend
serious
time in prison for operation on 10Meters. The fine is
$10,000 a
Day, and the prison time is up to 10 years per infraction.
NOT SMART!

What is really *NOT SMART* is replying to a TROLL.

SO I should not reply to YOU? I'll keep it in mind.

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:05:03 GMT, "Clarence_A" wrote:


"H J" wrote in message
...
the band we truckers,took over we dont need big hf radios like
keenwood
etc.we use low cost radios with big power.also the high power
black
radio people are makeing there way up 28hz.the new super bowl
.we
black,white folks are meeting togeter.untiy day is here on 28mhz


Can't spell, can not clearly communicate, and will spend serious
time in prison for operation on 10Meters. The fine is $10,000 a
Day, and the prison time is up to 10 years per infraction. NOT
SMART!


Freebanding is the least of my worries with truckers. Big trucks are
5 percent of the vehicles on the road. They are involved in 25
percent of the accidents. Naturally, they blame this on the cars.
The corrupt federal, state and local governments are paid off by the
motor freight (fright?) industry to look the other way on speeding and
almost all other infractions. When was it last time you saw a truck
pulled over? How often do they go by on the highway in excess of 75
MPH? Do the math.

Of course, as a ham, I also despise freebanders and hope they get
caught and fined - big time.

Russ

"Russ" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:05:03 GMT, "Clarence_A"
wrote:
"H J" wrote in message
...
the band we truckers,took over we dont need big hf radios
like
keenwood
etc.we use low cost radios with big power.also the high power
black
radio people are makeing there way up 28hz.the new super bowl
.we
black,white folks are meeting togeter.untiy day is here on
28mhz


Can't spell, can not clearly communicate, and will spend
serious
time in prison for operation on 10Meters. The fine is $10,000
a
Day, and the prison time is up to 10 years per infraction.
NOT
SMART!


Freebanding is the least of my worries with truckers. Big
trucks are
5 percent of the vehicles on the road. They are involved in 25
percent of the accidents. Naturally, they blame this on the
cars.
The corrupt federal, state and local governments are paid off by
the
motor freight (fright?) industry to look the other way on
speeding and
almost all other infractions. When was it last time you saw a
truck
pulled over? How often do they go by on the highway in excess
of 75 MPH? Do the math.

Of course, as a ham, I also despise freebanders and hope they
get
caught and fined - big time.

Russ


Eight stopped just in the last two days. But they missed another
five!

Ok, back to reality people!
For the "Mad Max'ers" out there, let's say the big one has hit, power and
phone lines are down....
Guess what, the truckers are still communicating...
Guess what, they can link the nation together because there are tons of them
everywhere (not to mention the CB non-truckers/mobile/base stations out
there!)
Guess what, there radios use the 11 meter band, line of sight, ground wave
and skip are all a phenomenon of this frequency!!!
Guess what? There are MILLIONS of CB radios out there!!!
Guess what? Antennas for this frequency are a snap to construct!
Guess what, some genius sets up a plan to use this "hidden" web to get
things going! He is deemed a genius by the government-they wonder why they
didn't think of this before!

Now, look over at the hams--there are a handful...

The price of living in a fantasy world, oblivious to the real world, is that
others tend to mock and laugh at you...

Regards
--
Hay, if'n ya'll cun't konstructivly partecipete in this har disscusion, haw
aboot speel-checkin it fer me?


"H J" wrote in message
...
the band we truckers,took over we dont need big hf radios like keenwood
etc.we use low cost radios with big power.also the high power black
radio people are makeing there way up 28hz.the new super bowl .we
black,white folks are meeting togeter.untiy day is here on 28mhz

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Ok, back to reality people!
For the "Mad Max'ers" out there, let's say the big one has hit, power and
phone lines are down....
Guess what, the truckers are still communicating...
Guess what, they can link the nation together because there are tons of
them
everywhere (not to mention the CB non-truckers/mobile/base stations out
there!)
Guess what, there radios use the 11 meter band, line of sight, ground wave
and skip are all a phenomenon of this frequency!!!
Guess what? There are MILLIONS of CB radios out there!!!
Guess what? Antennas for this frequency are a snap to construct!
Guess what, some genius sets up a plan to use this "hidden" web to get
things going! He is deemed a genius by the government-they wonder why
they
didn't think of this before!

Now, look over at the hams--there are a handful...

The price of living in a fantasy world, oblivious to the real world, is
that
others tend to mock and laugh at you...


And while your trucker friends are screaming "HOW "BOUCHA THAR, YUH GOTTA AN
OLE COPY THAR, WE TRYIN' THAR, MERCY SAKES THAR"
And if the 27 Megs band is dead? Silence..except for the mishmash of
truckers jamming each other with their "leenyars".

While those hams just move down to 24, 21, 18, 10, 7,
5, 3.8 MHZ and pass the traffic for EOC and FEMA or MARS.

CB radio is a hodgepodge of mishmash thrown together, peeked and tweeked,
squeaked and beeped ,splattering trash that couldn't effectively move radio
traffic if it smacked them in the face! They wouldn't know what to do with
it if they tried. Ha! They'd just get into a king of the hill battle trying
to key over one another!

Traffic handling in a national emergency is not just a matter of having
'them thar reddios with lotsa 'swang and far in th' war (fire in the wire),
but a matter of training and discipline. Without experience in precedence,
cataloging,
knowing what messages must be handled first, That, sir, those hams have in
abundance. It is why there are training programs within ARRL and local ham
clubs. It is why Amateur Radio was awarded funds for that purpose from
Homeland Security Dept. I don't see none of them thar "expert" chicken band
reddio types gittin' any of that money! HAHA! Want laughter? Talk to the
Emergency M

anagement folks or Homeland Security or FEMA and tell them how "valuable
them chicken banders" and their reddios and leenyars are to them. See how
hard they laugh at YOU! You haven't SEEN contempt until you try that.

"HOW 'BOUCHA THAR, THIS H'YAR MOONRAKER IN CENTRAL NAWTH C'LINA, WE TRYIN'!
WE'S IS REDDY TO PASS SOME OF THAT EE-MER-GEN-CEE TRAFFIC THAR"

Yeah, right. Your wonderful chicken band radio is full of **** when it
comes to real communications. You are dreaming, and your steering wheel and
the knowledge contained within its circumference is getting smaller and
smaller. Quit while you're ahead.

J



--
Hay, if'n ya'll cun't konstructivly partecipete in this har disscusion,
haw
aboot speel-checkin it fer me?


"H J" wrote in message
...
the band we truckers,took over we dont need big hf radios like keenwood
etc.we use low cost radios with big power.also the high power black
radio people are makeing there way up 28hz.the new super bowl .we
black,white folks are meeting togeter.untiy day is here on 28mhz

You seem to skip the "real world" and construct one from the images of your
mind, with your text.
Since many "traditional jobs" have and are disappearing, you are NOT
unlikely to find a notable number with BS and MS degrees driving a truck!
I have first hand knowledge of this, while I completed my masters thesis in
the late 1970's I personally found it a way to add to my income (actually,
it may be why I didn't starve to death!) and, an enjoyable one (well, I was
smart enough to get my butt OUT of that truck!)
You may have been surprised at the intellects I was able to carry on
discourse with who worked in that field.
Yanno, I even able to pick up a southern drawl and blend it with my
colleagues in that field--at least verbally, "10-4 good buddy?" You might
have heard me back then? (ok, I still sneak on 11 meters and talk like a
damn "okie") Perhaps I was/am one of the idiots with poor verbal and
written communication skills you are referring to?
In the "major event", many truckers (and yes, everyone in general) will be
the true heroes. Like 911 where the common hero went wanting for
recognition--the media will devote all of its coverage to such as police,
firefighters and authorities--but the unsung heroes will have contributed
greatly--you can bet on that.
I imagine some "glory hog(s)" who has been awaiting his chance at his 15
minutes of fame will step forward and some media correspondent will craft a
story making him a superman.
But, you know that just the sheer numbers of readily available radios out
there will somehow come to use.
Live in your fantasy world, too quick to dismiss the obvious but, always
hope these things never come to pass...

Regards
--
Hay, if'n ya'll cun't konstructivly partecipete in this har disscusion, haw
aboot speel-checkin it fer me?


"Jerry" wrote in message
...

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Ok, back to reality people!
For the "Mad Max'ers" out there, let's say the big one has hit, power and
phone lines are down....
Guess what, the truckers are still communicating...
Guess what, they can link the nation together because there are tons of
them
everywhere (not to mention the CB non-truckers/mobile/base stations out
there!)
Guess what, there radios use the 11 meter band, line of sight, ground
wave
and skip are all a phenomenon of this frequency!!!
Guess what? There are MILLIONS of CB radios out there!!!
Guess what? Antennas for this frequency are a snap to construct!
Guess what, some genius sets up a plan to use this "hidden" web to get
things going! He is deemed a genius by the government-they wonder why
they
didn't think of this before!

Now, look over at the hams--there are a handful...

The price of living in a fantasy world, oblivious to the real world, is
that
others tend to mock and laugh at you...


And while your trucker friends are screaming "HOW "BOUCHA THAR, YUH GOTTA
AN OLE COPY THAR, WE TRYIN' THAR, MERCY SAKES THAR"
And if the 27 Megs band is dead? Silence..except for the mishmash of
truckers jamming each other with their "leenyars".

While those hams just move down to 24, 21, 18, 10, 7,
5, 3.8 MHZ and pass the traffic for EOC and FEMA or MARS.

CB radio is a hodgepodge of mishmash thrown together, peeked and tweeked,
squeaked and beeped ,splattering trash that couldn't effectively move
radio traffic if it smacked them in the face! They wouldn't know what to
do with it if they tried. Ha! They'd just get into a king of the hill
battle trying to key over one another!

Traffic handling in a national emergency is not just a matter of having
'them thar reddios with lotsa 'swang and far in th' war (fire in the
wire), but a matter of training and discipline. Without experience in
precedence, cataloging,
knowing what messages must be handled first, That, sir, those hams have
in abundance. It is why there are training programs within ARRL and local
ham clubs. It is why Amateur Radio was awarded funds for that purpose from
Homeland Security Dept. I don't see none of them thar "expert" chicken
band reddio types gittin' any of that money! HAHA! Want laughter? Talk
to the Emergency M

anagement folks or Homeland Security or FEMA and tell them how "valuable
them chicken banders" and their reddios and leenyars are to them. See how
hard they laugh at YOU! You haven't SEEN contempt until you try that.

"HOW 'BOUCHA THAR, THIS H'YAR MOONRAKER IN CENTRAL NAWTH C'LINA, WE
TRYIN'! WE'S IS REDDY TO PASS SOME OF THAT EE-MER-GEN-CEE TRAFFIC THAR"

Yeah, right. Your wonderful chicken band radio is full of **** when it
comes to real communications. You are dreaming, and your steering wheel
and the knowledge contained within its circumference is getting smaller
and smaller. Quit while you're ahead.

J



--
Hay, if'n ya'll cun't konstructivly partecipete in this har disscusion,
haw
aboot speel-checkin it fer me?


"H J" wrote in message
...
the band we truckers,took over we dont need big hf radios like keenwood
etc.we use low cost radios with big power.also the high power black
radio people are makeing there way up 28hz.the new super bowl .we
black,white folks are meeting togeter.untiy day is here on 28mhz

It's amazing how just one comment by a single person got this group into an
uproar. I really think that the public in general has a romance with the
life of the trucker brought on by the movie and media hype. Truckers are
just ordinary people who do an thankless job of moving just about everything
there is in North America to and from wholesalers to retailers. Over the
years the average trucker's education level has gone from grade school drop
outs to men and women holding degrees of various ranges of education. Over
the years I've come to know a rather large group of people from a very large
slice of various levels of education, similar to that of most truckers. I
hold two degrees and a commercial Radio Telephone license, but for some
reason I ended up returning to "trucking" all the time. And all the trucks
I've driven, over 1 million miles, I've always had my amateur radio(s) and a
CB. Each had it's own nicessity and each one had it's own language. On one
radio I as a respected amateur radio operator who drove truck, on the other
I was just another trucker looking for a traffic report.
Oh, for those who are of the illusion that truckers are the cause of all the
terrible accident on the highways, well the only person your fooling is
yourself. To get the facts do a little research and you will find that four
wheeled vehicles cause more accidents than any other vehicle. Trucks seem to
fall into the same catigory as motorcycles do in the public's perseption of
the cause of accidents. After you have done your research you will find that
both trucks and motorcycles end of up being a very low percentage of the
cause of accidents. The only thing the public sees is that when a truck gets
into a bad accident it is very bad and devestating distruction. But
statistics show there are fewer truck accidents than four wheeled vehicles
and there are also far fewer accidents that are caused by trucks entirely.
But, this is just this over educated truckers opinion.

73 de ve7agw, Al

"TJ" wrote in message
news:P1Z2e.864278$8l.567848@pd7tw1no...
It's amazing how just one comment by a single person got this group into
an uproar. I really think that the public in general has a romance with
the life of the trucker brought on by the movie and media hype. Truckers
are just ordinary people who do an thankless job of moving just about
everything there is in North America to and from wholesalers to retailers.
Over the years the average trucker's education level has gone from grade
school drop outs to men and women holding degrees of various ranges of
education. Over the years I've come to know a rather large group of
people from a very large slice of various levels of education, similar to
that of most truckers. I hold two degrees and a commercial Radio Telephone
license, but for some reason I ended up returning to "trucking" all the
time. And all the trucks I've driven, over 1 million miles, I've always
had my amateur radio(s) and a CB. Each had it's own nicessity and each
one had it's own language. On one radio I as a respected amateur radio
operator who drove truck, on the other I was just another trucker looking
for a traffic report.
Oh, for those who are of the illusion that truckers are the cause of all
the terrible accident on the highways, well the only person your fooling
is yourself. To get the facts do a little research and you will find that
four wheeled vehicles cause more accidents than any other vehicle. Trucks
seem to fall into the same catigory as motorcycles do in the public's
perseption of the cause of accidents. After you have done your research
you will find that both trucks and motorcycles end of up being a very low
percentage of the cause of accidents. The only thing the public sees is
that when a truck gets into a bad accident it is very bad and devestating
distruction. But statistics show there are fewer truck accidents than four
wheeled vehicles and there are also far fewer accidents that are caused by
trucks entirely.
But, this is just this over educated truckers opinion.

73 de ve7agw, Al


Eh, I agree with you for the most part - BUT - you "seem" to have missed the
point. "That" "trucker" seemed to be suggesting that the service they
provide sort of entitles them to break the laws. It does NOT. "My" comment
was (not word for word) that if he broke the rules of the road much as he is
suggesting he does of the FCC, then it wouldn't be long or take much to end
the line for him. RULES ARE RULES. LAWS ARE LAWS. Be you a truck driver,
cop, lawyer, politician, doctor, we ALL have laws to live with, if we're to
survive with any sense of common ground. ANY ONE who breaks those rules/laws
is only adding to the problem. "I" know some truckers, I know the job they
do..... I know the sacrifices they make - time away from home and family.
"I" am not disputing that. What I was disputing was that person's "holier
than thou" approach "since he is a trucker". THAT is what I dismiss........
NOT THE JOB. I was just telling him to come off his high horse, there may
come a day when his services are no longer required, then what? HE won't be
so high and mighty then. It is guys like that who are the bad apple, and
give the rest of you a black eye. Just like a bad cop gives the rest a black
eye, a quack doctor does to his/her profession, a politician who takes
bribes/steals. ALL give their profession a bad name. Like it or not, every
group has them, truckers included. That one stuck his head out to be
noticed. He brought attention to himself. Why can't he mutually respect hams
and what they have, as he expects the hams to respect him for what he does?
It IS a two way street.

There is NO reason he or any of the rest can't do a small bit of studying
when laying over at a truck stop or waiting to be loaded, go take an exam,
pass it, get a license, then talk with the rest of us who would welcome
them. IF they don't want to take an exam, then WHY violate the laws and pick
fights with the hams, because they're too damned lazy to do the right thing?
It isn't the hams fault. The hams wanted their license, so they did what it
took to get it.......

If you intend to defend his approach, then I can't agree with you. As to the
rest of what you said, perhaps you're an example they can follow. Maybe
"you" can convince them, being one of the bunch. As for "accidents", "I am
not a statistician, so I can't say for sure. I could get into the argument
regarding bikes, since I ride one as well, but again, without facts to back
me up, I'm not going to.

cl