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Old April 6th 05, 09:42 PM
Richard Harrison
 
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Henty Kolesnik wrote:
"How about a little more explanation on the 50% reradiation?"

The antenna doesn`t care where the power comes from. It can be from
connected drive or induced. Induced power has two loads, radiation
resistance and connected load (receiver input). If they are matched
(equal), 50% is absorbed in each.

If they are mismatched, paximum power transfer can`t occur. A higher
percentage of the available energy will be rejected or reradiated
because the receiver input is nearer to an open circuit (rejection) or a
short circuit (reradiation) than it is when it is matched to the
antenna`s radiation resistance.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KBWZI

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Old April 6th 05, 10:16 PM
Henry Kolesnik
 
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OK....I think I uderstand the transmitter side, perhaps a little better. If
a 50 ohm transmitter is matched to a 50 ohm antenna there is no reflection
and all the power is radiated. If the antenna is not 50 ohms then there is
reflected power from the antenna to the transmitter and since the
transmitter cannot absorb power it reflects it to the antenna ad infinitum.
I also know that electric power generating station don't like a match
because a 50/50 deal is not good for profits. I understand the transmitter
and power generator however I'm having trouble getting my mind around whats
happening with the receiver and antenna. Can it be put another way so I can
try to understand it?
tnx

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73
Hank WD5JFR
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Henty Kolesnik wrote:
"How about a little more explanation on the 50% reradiation?"

The antenna doesn`t care where the power comes from. It can be from
connected drive or induced. Induced power has two loads, radiation
resistance and connected load (receiver input). If they are matched
(equal), 50% is absorbed in each.

If they are mismatched, paximum power transfer can`t occur. A higher
percentage of the available energy will be rejected or reradiated
because the receiver input is nearer to an open circuit (rejection) or a
short circuit (reradiation) than it is when it is matched to the
antenna`s radiation resistance.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KBWZI



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Old April 6th 05, 11:43 PM
Richard Clark
 
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On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 21:16:53 GMT, "Henry Kolesnik"
wrote:

If the antenna is not 50 ohms then there is
reflected power from the antenna to the transmitter and since the
transmitter cannot absorb power it reflects it to the antenna ad infinitum.


Hi Hank,

This again points out the fallacy of treating different matches as
having equal outcomes.

A simple, intuitive test of your statement about would ask the
question:
"Who needs a tuner for mismatches then?"

No doubt the thread will enlarge with discourse on the theory of
Thevenin (Norton by implication), Conjugation, Efficiency, Max
available power, Max power transfer, and any number of other mantras
dear to the heart. And yet none of them will explain that if we have:
transmitter cannot absorb power it reflects it to the antenna ad infinitum.

"Who needs a tuner for mismatches then?"

Saving a few hundred rounds of such non-answers, and suspecting if I
held feet to the fire, the discussion would then turn to answering
"Who needs a tuner for mismatches then?"
in terms of psychology:
"A tuner makes the transmitter happy."

A such, it reduces to the economy of time. If you are in this hobby
long enough, the investment in a tuner will yield that same level of
transmitter happiness at a lesser expense than would monthly visits to
the pharmacist for Prozac.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC
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