W3JDR wrote:
Even if there were such a thing as the 'ether' (there isn't; elecromagnetic
waves don't need a medium to propagate), ...

Actually they do. It is generally accepted that EM waves
cannot propagate outside of the universe precisely because
of the absence of any structure (medium). Our medium of
space is thought to have at least ten dimensions.
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On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:38:48 -0500, Cecil Moore
wrote:
It is generally accepted that EM waves cannot propagate outside of the universe
must be a continuation of
On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 17:32:22 -0600, Cecil Moore wrote:
The aliens instructed me to deliver this knowledge to earthlings.

Richard was seen to write, "Being the High Pope of Esteemed ARRL Traditons,
I can reassure you ALIENS ARE NOT REAL!!!!" (well, something like that!)

grin

Warmest regards,
John

Richard Clark wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:
It is generally accepted that EM waves cannot propagate outside of the universe

must be a continuation of

On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 17:32:22 -0600, Cecil Moore wrote:
The aliens instructed me to deliver this knowledge to earthlings.

Dear Richard, if you have some theory of how EM waves can
exit the universe, please present it.
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Well, I know you asked Richard....
But, I think there may be a way if we tear a hole in the "shielding."
Yanno, even if you can get a Klingon Warships'shielding weakened enough, ya
can get a photon torpedo through!!! innocent-look

Regards,
John

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| Richard Clark wrote:
| Cecil Moore wrote:
| It is generally accepted that EM waves cannot propagate outside of the
universe
|
| must be a continuation of
|
| On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 17:32:22 -0600, Cecil Moore
wrote:
| The aliens instructed me to deliver this knowledge to earthlings.
|
| Dear Richard, if you have some theory of how EM waves can
| exit the universe, please present it.
| --
| 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp
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John Smith wrote:
I think there may be a way if we tear a hole in the "shielding."

Trouble is, we cannot locate the shielding. It's like
trying to get off the Earth by walking around.
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I wanted to respond to this right away--your post... but was quite simply
unable.... (I literally spent time starring out a window!)
Realize that I have nothing but questions about the "end of the universe", I
think it is like that for us all, but, maybe not....
I suspect it to be a sphere, but you have seen the "mobius strip", it at
first looks quite innocently like a two dimensional object, on closer
examination, IT ONLY HAS ONE SIDE!!!!
The universe could very well be like that...
My mind spends a lot of time "out there" when I am slow to sleep....

I imagine most are scarred to speculate--others would probably mock their
efforts....

Any ideas, or models which you can find to build a "mental model" from?

Warmest regards,
John

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| John Smith wrote:
| I think there may be a way if we tear a hole in the "shielding."
|
| Trouble is, we cannot locate the shielding. It's like
| trying to get off the Earth by walking around.
| --
| 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp
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I have thought of this... don't laugh... but your thoughts are welcomed...

After the big bang, I am assuming (I know, that's bad) that somewhere, just
by the design of "probability laws", that a pulsar was able to form, rather
quickly (few billion years?)--and began emitting...

If so, why have we NOT heard a bounce from the "shielding" (end of the
universe)?

Is it constructed of radio absorbing material?

Does it "go" somewhere else?



Imagining-God-sitting-at-a-receiver-as-the-signals-reach-heaven-thinking,
"noisy little universe and creatures--ain't they?



Regards,
John

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|I wanted to respond to this right away--your post... but was quite simply
| unable.... (I literally spent time starring out a window!)
| Realize that I have nothing but questions about the "end of the universe",
I
| think it is like that for us all, but, maybe not....
| I suspect it to be a sphere, but you have seen the "mobius strip", it at
| first looks quite innocently like a two dimensional object, on closer
| examination, IT ONLY HAS ONE SIDE!!!!
| The universe could very well be like that...
| My mind spends a lot of time "out there" when I am slow to sleep....
|
| I imagine most are scarred to speculate--others would probably mock their
| efforts....
|
| Any ideas, or models which you can find to build a "mental model" from?
|
| Warmest regards,
| John
|
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|| John Smith wrote:
|| I think there may be a way if we tear a hole in the "shielding."
||
|| Trouble is, we cannot locate the shielding. It's like
|| trying to get off the Earth by walking around.
|| --
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John Smith wrote:
Any ideas, or models which you can find to build a "mental model" from?

Mine has always been "Flatland". It helps to understand that
we are trapped on this three dimensional surface and have
difficulty comprehending where we would be if we could leave
it behind.
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"John Smith" wrote in message
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I wanted to respond to this right away--your post... but was quite simply
unable.... (I literally spent time starring out a window!)
Realize that I have nothing but questions about the "end of the universe",
I
think it is like that for us all, but, maybe not....
I suspect it to be a sphere, but you have seen the "mobius strip", it at
first looks quite innocently like a two dimensional object, on closer
examination, IT ONLY HAS ONE SIDE!!!!
The universe could very well be like that...
My mind spends a lot of time "out there" when I am slow to sleep....

I imagine most are scarred to speculate--others would probably mock their
efforts....

Any ideas, or models which you can find to build a "mental model" from?

Warmest regards,
John

John,
Here is another thought. Just because we can only see 3 dimensions doesn't
mean we don't exist in more than 3.

Tam/WB2TT
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| Trouble is, we cannot locate the shielding. It's like
| trying to get off the Earth by walking around.
| --
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