And, you know partner, that is one VERY CHEAP SHOT... I am betting it is
indicative of your whole character....

You should have mentioned it is from rec.radio.cb...

The group there are truck drivers, when speaking to truck drivers a much
different form of speech is chosen than in other groups...

It would have been much more appropriate to have mentioned that.... or, even
better, to have referred them to rec.radio.cb and told them I was posting
there... either or both would have been preferable...

That is uncouth... what next... pickup something from a porn room and drop
it here?



Indeed, if you look in the above postings, of mine, in this group, you will
find I have expressed these same ideas here--with gentler nouns, verbs and
text... but then, I think you are for another purpose... perhaps because
you are feeling you are losing the argument there, and so wish to sick more
hounds upon me?



John

"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...
| Cory Mason wrote:
|
| On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:27:50 -0700, "John Smith"
| wrote:
|
| While debate and argument are good things and will help make it common
| knowledge that the hams have their heads up their A$$'s--the facts
stated
| above are simply too obivious to argue. However, if/when you do run
into
| hams which cannot face the real world--perhaps it would be a kindness to
| suggest a three-day observation in their local mental health
facility....
|
|
|
| Regards,
| John
|
|
|
| John, What is your problem with hams?
|
| Regards
| Cory
|
|
| He is just another cber too lazy to get a ham license so the best he can
| do is attempt to slam ham operators. Ham radio out performs cb radio in
| so many ways it makes cb look really pathetic, and the cbers have done
| an excellent job themselves of making cb look pathetic by making 11
| meters the sewer pit of the radio spectrum.

The group there are truck drivers, when speaking to truck drivers a
much
different form of speech is chosen than in other groups... ........

All CB'ers are truck drivers? I know a few truck drivers, and I didn't
need an interpretor... The ones I know seem to speak english.
Are you talking to Iranian truck drivers? I doubt they use many CB's...
Most prefer to bootleg on VHF using ham tranceivers....Kinda the
3rd world "family radio"....

Indeed, if you look in the above postings, of mine, in this group, you
will
find I have expressed these same ideas here--with gentler nouns, verbs
and
text...

I've read your rantings at both places....All in all....I still think
you
must have been an abused child...You seem fairly silly at either
group...gentle or not...BTW....What is this great "mis-information"
we hams have supposably foisted upon the world? I read that post....
Sillyness it was...You don't need to be a ham to foist
misinformation...
You can go back to barking at the moon now....
BTW, Don't worry. I'm not going to argue with you...
I fear it would be too painful for you to cope with.
I wouldn't want you to go "postal" on us, or anything....I remember
once on 75m, they picked on this dude for so long, he went postal
and shot his wife to death out of sheer frustration. No joke....
It was on the frequency I talked on at that time...Some out there
may still remember it....He was a "4" lander....Was about '85 or so...
He may still be serving time for it... So you can see my concern.
I wouldn't want you to end up like that. I've argued with some people,

and they started barking at the moon out of frustration. You already
bark at the moon, so I'm afraid I could be fatal to you... So I'll
leave
you alone....Resume barking now....
MK

It is your opinion as opposed to mine--this would be a petty argument at
best...

Instead of choosing to argue a point I have already decided for myself--go
visit there, then attempt to convince that the arguments, debates, and
gentlemens' exchange is the same as it is here--if NOT, then I stand correct
in what I have stated...

Quit nipping at my ankles, it grows boring...

John

wrote in message
oups.com...
| The group there are truck drivers, when speaking to truck drivers a
| much
| different form of speech is chosen than in other groups... ........
|
| All CB'ers are truck drivers? I know a few truck drivers, and I didn't
| need an interpretor... The ones I know seem to speak english.
| Are you talking to Iranian truck drivers? I doubt they use many CB's...
| Most prefer to bootleg on VHF using ham tranceivers....Kinda the
| 3rd world "family radio"....
|
| Indeed, if you look in the above postings, of mine, in this group, you
| will
| find I have expressed these same ideas here--with gentler nouns, verbs
| and
| text...
|
| I've read your rantings at both places....All in all....I still think
| you
| must have been an abused child...You seem fairly silly at either
| group...gentle or not...BTW....What is this great "mis-information"
| we hams have supposably foisted upon the world? I read that post....
| Sillyness it was...You don't need to be a ham to foist
| misinformation...
| You can go back to barking at the moon now....
| BTW, Don't worry. I'm not going to argue with you...
| I fear it would be too painful for you to cope with.
| I wouldn't want you to go "postal" on us, or anything....I remember
| once on 75m, they picked on this dude for so long, he went postal
| and shot his wife to death out of sheer frustration. No joke....
| It was on the frequency I talked on at that time...Some out there
| may still remember it....He was a "4" lander....Was about '85 or so...
| He may still be serving time for it... So you can see my concern.
| I wouldn't want you to end up like that. I've argued with some people,
|
| and they started barking at the moon out of frustration. You already
| bark at the moon, so I'm afraid I could be fatal to you... So I'll
| leave
| you alone....Resume barking now....
| MK
|

John Smith wrote:
"Kinda the 3rd world "family radio" (Ham VHF)."

CB is much more valiable than Amateur Radio because it can be legally
used for profit as well as for pleasure. FCC rules prohibit amateur
radio use in profitable pursuits.- It`s FCC protection for broadcasters,
common carriers, and other radio services.

Pubkic protection agencies make a business of preparedness for disaster
and give mostly lip-service to cooperation with hams. Amateur radio may
be competition for homeland protection. Professionals may not need
amateur help. You can`t pay amateurs to be ready, so you can`t order
them to do anything.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI

Richard:

I battle "tons" (at least it feels like that) of those who oppose my views
in the cb newsgroup(s)... I have not the energy to reopen that discussion
here... I must divorce myself from this thread--I support your right to your
opinion(s) and right to disagree--I always have... this thread goes in my
"bit bucket", I am weak and easily tempted yanno! grin

Warmest regards,
John

"Richard Harrison" wrote in message
...
| John Smith wrote:
| "Kinda the 3rd world "family radio" (Ham VHF)."
|
| CB is much more valiable than Amateur Radio because it can be legally
| used for profit as well as for pleasure. FCC rules prohibit amateur
| radio use in profitable pursuits.- It`s FCC protection for broadcasters,
| common carriers, and other radio services.
|
| Pubkic protection agencies make a business of preparedness for disaster
| and give mostly lip-service to cooperation with hams. Amateur radio may
| be competition for homeland protection. Professionals may not need
| amateur help. You can`t pay amateurs to be ready, so you can`t order
| them to do anything.
|
| Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI
|

CB is much more valiable than Amateur Radio because it can be legally
used for profit as well as for pleasure. FCC rules prohibit amateur
radio use in profitable pursuits.- It`s FCC protection for
broadcasters,
common carriers, and other radio services. .........

None of this matters in smaller third world nations though....Most
people
I see on TV, in say Iran, Afghanistan, africa, etc, etc, are using
VHF Handie talkies most of the time. I never see them using CB's,
although, I guess some do...But I've seen icom HT's on CNN, many
a time, when seeing video of people over there...I would think they are
working simplex...Most all soldiers I see with radios are using icoms,
etc...
I don't think CB is real popular, although maybe there are a few...
As far as I know, CB is mainly a USA conceived band...If others use it,

it's just cause they adopted it to use existing radios being built...
As far as the debate as which is better, to me it's a non issue...I can
use
either, or both...But to *me*, ham radio is much more useful than CB
could
ever think of being...Just the restriction of being in a small single
band is
enough to kill it, being as skip is only good about 50% of the
time...So,
yea, I could talk across town, but maybe nowhere else...With ham radio,

I can talk to nearly anyone, one way or the other, if they can match
bands
with me. Being able to work 160m-70cm with a single radio smokes
being able to work only 11m with a single radio... If we had a major
emergency, which for us in Houston, will almost certainly be a
hurricane,
I bet ham radio will be much more useful overall, just due to the shear
advantage of mucho more spectrum, and types of propagation.
And many locals on VHF are already into skywarn, etc...So 2m is a
natural for the hams locally...They are prepared for it.
But...
Having a CB would be better than nothing at all....I don't have the
problem
of looking down on CB...To me, it's just another band, under different
regs...I give them about as much thought as I do the cell phone band...
I might tune across 11m, maybe once every two months or so, when
checking cdx....It's actually usually fairly dead around here...For
that
reason, it could actually be fairly useful...Very few "average" people
have CB's like they used to...Most CB'ers now, are fairly hard core
CB'ers....And people that actually use them like truckers, and people
way out on ranches, etc....You go out in west texas, and there are
still
a few ranchers that use CB to yik yak...It's like their local party
line...
But myself, I prefer 80/40 meters for local/regional use...40 in the
day,
80 at night...Or 160 too....I could talk three blocks away, to
Galveston,
and relay to Austin, all on the same band as a scenario...CB....Three
blocks, yes...Galveston, hummmm....Not very well...Would need a good
antenna, and big leanyer...Austin...SOL, unless it's a fluke of
nature....
I know which line I'll be in.....BTW....Many truckers agree, and are on

80/40....They know what really works...Just most truckers don't have a
ham ticket...I think the numbers are increasing though...They can talk
to
their families anywhere on the road, if the YL, etc is a ham...
CB won't do that very often...Skip zone is too long, and it will always
be
a crapshoot for regional use. I use the bands that best match the path,

time of day. Way more reliable. I can get on 80/40 right now and talk
to
Dallas, or any other city in the country. Even from my truck.
No if's, ands, or but's....nearly as reliable as a telephone... In some
rare
cases, the MUF may drop way low, and 160 would be the better choice.
CB won't talk to Dallas from Houston very often at all...CB is CB. No
more,
no less...I suspect if "John Smith" actually has a ticket, it's no
code....And
no HF, unless maybe he has an old novice...I can't see a reason to
complain if he actually had use of those other bands. Only people who
have some kind of inferiority complex bark at the moon about something
as
trivial as CB vs Ham radio...Maybe we should develop a cb/ham therapy
course to deal with all the problems of coexistance. We could have them
at ham fests, etc...Hams and CB'ers could have group encounter sessions
to iron out their problems...Get all touchy feely, and hug each
other....
Of course, I won't be there....Sounds too gay to me....
MK

Mark, NM5K wrote:
"i use the bands that best match the path."

The medium more or less dictates that discipline for DX.

H-F has lost commercial traffic to cable and satellite which are
available around the clock and calendar. Even broadcasters have
satellite subscribers. They supply pictures too.. Yes, there`s amateur
TV, but it isn`t prevalent, and CBers don`t do it either.

Anyone who wants to contact the world anyplace at any time can get a
cell phone. The worldwide system will become compatible and pervasive.

Who wants to use Morse code?

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI

I DON'T want to post here!!! weakness-showing

Code? I use the computer keyboard and "code reader", it all happens on my
computer screen--kinda like a "chat room"--not so bad really--besides, no
one can read my key by ear anyway--I have NO music ability.... that guy on
"American Idol"--which everyone thought sung bad--I KINDA LIKED HIM!!!
innocent-look

Warmest regards,
John

"Richard Harrison" wrote in message
...
| Mark, NM5K wrote:
| "i use the bands that best match the path."
|
| The medium more or less dictates that discipline for DX.
|
| H-F has lost commercial traffic to cable and satellite which are
| available around the clock and calendar. Even broadcasters have
| satellite subscribers. They supply pictures too.. Yes, there`s amateur
| TV, but it isn`t prevalent, and CBers don`t do it either.
|
| Anyone who wants to contact the world anyplace at any time can get a
| cell phone. The worldwide system will become compatible and pervasive.
|
| Who wants to use Morse code?
|
| Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI
|

"i use the bands that best match the path."

The medium more or less dictates that discipline for DX.

Anywhere, not just dx...I actually don't work that much dx...
Even regional, choosing the right band is important.

H-F has lost commercial traffic to cable and satellite which are
available around the clock and calendar.

Yea, but I can't use the commercial freq's anyway...So to me, HF
is unchanged.


Even broadcasters have
satellite subscribers. They supply pictures too.. Yes, there`s amateur
TV, but it isn`t prevalent, and CBers don`t do it either.

I'm fully capable of TV. slow scan anywhere , or ATV on 70cm...
Not to mention all the other services available like wefax, data, etc..
I can do it all mobile, if I have a laptop...

Anyone who wants to contact the world anyplace at any time can get a
cell phone. The worldwide system will become compatible and pervasive.

Yea, I have one of those too....For the non radio types, thats the
best bet...

Who wants to use Morse code?

Doesn't bother me, if I needed to. But morse would not likely
be used in an emergency type deal...I'd more likely be on fone...
But if they wanna go to morse, I'm ready.. If we actually had a
hurricane,
I see myself being on 2m mainly for local stuff, but also on 80/40
doing regional welfare checks and info, liason, etc...Bout the same
as any other "emergency" like the quake in Mexico City, etc...Except,
they used 20m more, being farther away...They matched the band to
the path...

MK

Who wants to use Morse code?

I do ! And furthermore, neither YOU nor nobody else can stop me.
----
Reg, G4FGQ.