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Old May 17th 05, 03:18 PM
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John, the trouble is at my end, caused by my nincompoop of a
dis-service provider.

If previous experience is any guide, it will take weeks to sort it
out. When it comes to managing Windows, OE and the Internet, I'm a
mere novice.

( The most important thing about ferrite rings is their size. You
can't get a dozen turns of speaker cable on 5/8" diameter rings. )
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"John Smith" wrote in message
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Ferrite ring? Now where would I ever find one of those--last guy

told me to
buy all these dern toroids!!! grin

Good morning Reg!

Warmest regards,
John

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I'd like to make a 1:1 balun,


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Wind about a dozen turns of twin, stranded, 18 AWG,
clear-plastic-insulation, speaker cable (or similar) around a 2"
diameter ferrite ring. About 3/8" cross-section. Permeability

200 to
500.

And there you have it. Speaker cable is better than coax on both
mechanical and electrical grounds.
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Old May 18th 05, 03:47 AM
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Aye Reg:

And frequently, I push too much power thru too small a toroid (I like
"ferrite ring"--much better sound!).... but then, I kinda like 'em when they
are just warm to the touch--and I am so fond of the powered iron... but
frankly, do have better luck with ferrite--they forgive me much more
often... from posts I have read--others feel the same...

I am getting your emails now my friend, they are much welcomed here...
perhaps we can chat-up pascal now...

Warmest regards,
John
"Reg Edwards" wrote in message
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John, the trouble is at my end, caused by my nincompoop of a
dis-service provider.

If previous experience is any guide, it will take weeks to sort it
out. When it comes to managing Windows, OE and the Internet, I'm a
mere novice.

( The most important thing about ferrite rings is their size. You
can't get a dozen turns of speaker cable on 5/8" diameter rings. )
----
Reg.

==============================

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Ferrite ring? Now where would I ever find one of those--last guy

told me to
buy all these dern toroids!!! grin

Good morning Reg!

Warmest regards,
John

"Reg Edwards" wrote in message
...

I'd like to make a 1:1 balun,

===========================

Wind about a dozen turns of twin, stranded, 18 AWG,
clear-plastic-insulation, speaker cable (or similar) around a 2"
diameter ferrite ring. About 3/8" cross-section. Permeability

200 to
500.

And there you have it. Speaker cable is better than coax on both
mechanical and electrical grounds.
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Reg, G4FGQ.








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Old May 18th 05, 05:54 AM
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John Smith wrote:
... but then, I kinda like 'em when they
are just warm to the touch--and I am so fond of the powered iron...


Does your powdered iron get warm very often?
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If I wind for 160m and try to run "real" power on 10 meters--yes Cecil they
do--I expect that is because the design is bad--I know it--but am willing
to suffer the lossess... your thoughts? Even 25 watts (when running QRO)
spent warming a 2.5 inch core gets it warm after a bit... how can I improve
this?

Sorry, got called out of town on business... back not... not sure how
long... but can answer quicker for now...

Warmest regards,
John

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John Smith wrote:
... but then, I kinda like 'em when they are just warm to the touch--and
I am so fond of the powered iron...


Does your powdered iron get warm very often?
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John Smith wrote:
If I wind for 160m and try to run "real" power on 10 meters--yes Cecil they
do--


I might not have even noticed my leg being pulled but
I have a torn ACL that is a very sensitive detector.
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Old May 20th 05, 04:07 AM
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No, no leg pulling, toroids can be lossy (and, as we all know, more often
than not--loss = heat)... I find a 2-50 Mhz balun to be more of a "myth"
than a reality... even if I wind it out of the "proper" core material to
begin with.... (often it is just what I have on hand grin)

I warned ya, my motto really is, "What ever works!!!".... I just failed to
add... "...even if it is lossy!" Proper core material is important--never
had one "crack" as I have heard about though...

Warmest regards,
John

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John Smith wrote:
If I wind for 160m and try to run "real" power on 10 meters--yes Cecil
they do--


I might not have even noticed my leg being pulled but
I have a torn ACL that is a very sensitive detector.
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John Smith wrote:
No, no leg pulling, toroids can be lossy (and, as we all know, more often
than not--loss = heat)... I find a 2-50 Mhz balun to be more of a "myth"
than a reality...


Me too - that's why I knew you were pulling my leg. :-)
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