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Old May 31st 05, 04:06 AM
John Smith
 
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.... seek the answer to your question in rec.radio.cb for our "Good Ole
Buddies" take on that question, 10-4?

Actually, you may wish to see what they do there...

Warmest regards,
John

"Jim" wrote in message
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hello. I'm not a ham radio operator(yet) but was hoping I could still
get some help here. A relative of mine stays at a rv campground close
by me. Its maybe 2-3 miles if you drew a straight line from my house.

the campground is in a very low area. you drive down a hill for quite
a ways and it has a lot of trees all down the hill. cell phones rarely
work and break up when they do. I have tried a indoor 1/4 wave antenna
at my house with murs while I setup a 1/4 wave antenna on their car at
the campground and no luck.

Would I have any more luck on the cb frequencies? Anyway thanks for
the help



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Old May 31st 05, 04:13 AM
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In article wmQme.20854$PS3.731@attbi_s22, Jim wrote:

hello. I'm not a ham radio operator(yet) but was hoping I could still
get some help here. A relative of mine stays at a rv campground close by
me. Its maybe 2-3 miles if you drew a straight line from my house.

the campground is in a very low area. you drive down a hill for quite a
ways and it has a lot of trees all down the hill. cell phones rarely
work and break up when they do. I have tried a indoor 1/4 wave antenna
at my house with murs while I setup a 1/4 wave antenna on their car at
the campground and no luck.

Would I have any more luck on the cb frequencies? Anyway thanks for the help


It's possible - the lower frequency may diffract differently (and
perhaps more successfully) from the hilltops. It's probably worth
trying with some borrowed CB radios; I don't think I'd go out and
spend money on CB radios just to experiment.

The way I'd deal with a no-line-of-sight situation like this on the
2-meter band (frequency not all that different from MURS) would be to
locate some large landmark (preferably a large hill or mountain) which
is visible from both locations. I'd then aim a directional beam
antenna at it, from each site, and see if there was enough reflection
off of the mountain/hill to establish a useful communication link.

You'll probably need to get the antenna at your end of the link out of
the house - attenuation in the walls is likely to cost you a lot of
signal.

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Old May 31st 05, 04:48 AM
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"Jim" wrote in message
news:wmQme.20854$PS3.731@attbi_s22...
hello. I'm not a ham radio operator(yet) but was hoping I could still
get some help here. A relative of mine stays at a rv campground close by
me. Its maybe 2-3 miles if you drew a straight line from my house.

the campground is in a very low area. you drive down a hill for quite a
ways and it has a lot of trees all down the hill. cell phones rarely
work and break up when they do. I have tried a indoor 1/4 wave antenna
at my house with murs while I setup a 1/4 wave antenna on their car at
the campground and no luck.

Would I have any more luck on the cb frequencies? Anyway thanks for the

help

CB will most likely work ok, seeing there's only 3 miles between you.
antenna height will make a difference.


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Old May 31st 05, 05:07 AM
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.... come to think of it, a "Leeneair" brand cb might just be the
ticket!!!

Ask 'em about Leeneair radios in rec.radio.cb and see how they feel
about it.... chuckle

Warmest regards,
John

"Jim" wrote in message
news:wmQme.20854$PS3.731@attbi_s22...
hello. I'm not a ham radio operator(yet) but was hoping I could still
get some help here. A relative of mine stays at a rv campground close
by me. Its maybe 2-3 miles if you drew a straight line from my house.

the campground is in a very low area. you drive down a hill for quite
a ways and it has a lot of trees all down the hill. cell phones rarely
work and break up when they do. I have tried a indoor 1/4 wave antenna
at my house with murs while I setup a 1/4 wave antenna on their car at
the campground and no luck.

Would I have any more luck on the cb frequencies? Anyway thanks for
the help



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Old May 31st 05, 04:26 PM
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Is this sort of nonsense really necessary? People come to the group seeking
knowledge, not ridicule. Your supercilious attitude adds little to the
discourse.

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
... come to think of it, a "Leeneair" brand cb might just be the
ticket!!!

Ask 'em about Leeneair radios in rec.radio.cb and see how they feel
about it.... chuckle

Warmest regards,
John

"Jim" wrote in message
news:wmQme.20854$PS3.731@attbi_s22...
hello. I'm not a ham radio operator(yet) but was hoping I could still
get some help here. A relative of mine stays at a rv campground close
by me. Its maybe 2-3 miles if you drew a straight line from my house.

the campground is in a very low area. you drive down a hill for quite
a ways and it has a lot of trees all down the hill. cell phones rarely
work and break up when they do. I have tried a indoor 1/4 wave antenna
at my house with murs while I setup a 1/4 wave antenna on their car at
the campground and no luck.

Would I have any more luck on the cb frequencies? Anyway thanks for
the help







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Old May 31st 05, 05:24 PM
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Fred:

I stand corrected, you are right... I am sorry... CB is hard to take
without a little humor though...

Warmest regards,
John

"Fred W4JLE" wrote in message
...
Is this sort of nonsense really necessary? People come to the group
seeking
knowledge, not ridicule. Your supercilious attitude adds little to the
discourse.

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
... come to think of it, a "Leeneair" brand cb might just be the
ticket!!!

Ask 'em about Leeneair radios in rec.radio.cb and see how they feel
about it.... chuckle

Warmest regards,
John

"Jim" wrote in message
news:wmQme.20854$PS3.731@attbi_s22...
hello. I'm not a ham radio operator(yet) but was hoping I could
still
get some help here. A relative of mine stays at a rv campground
close
by me. Its maybe 2-3 miles if you drew a straight line from my
house.

the campground is in a very low area. you drive down a hill for
quite
a ways and it has a lot of trees all down the hill. cell phones
rarely
work and break up when they do. I have tried a indoor 1/4 wave
antenna
at my house with murs while I setup a 1/4 wave antenna on their car
at
the campground and no luck.

Would I have any more luck on the cb frequencies? Anyway thanks for
the help







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Old May 31st 05, 08:20 PM
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John Smith wrote:

Fred:

I stand corrected, you are right... I am sorry... CB is hard to take
without a little humor though...

Warmest regards,
John

"Fred W4JLE" wrote in message
...


Is this sort of nonsense really necessary? People come to the group
seeking
knowledge, not ridicule. Your supercilious attitude adds little to the
discourse.

"John Smith" wrote in message
...


... come to think of it, a "Leeneair" brand cb might just be the
ticket!!!

Ask 'em about Leeneair radios in rec.radio.cb and see how they feel
about it.... chuckle

Warmest regards,
John

"Jim" wrote in message
news:wmQme.20854$PS3.731@attbi_s22...


hello. I'm not a ham radio operator(yet) but was hoping I could
still
get some help here. A relative of mine stays at a rv campground
close
by me. Its maybe 2-3 miles if you drew a straight line from my
house.

the campground is in a very low area. you drive down a hill for
quite
a ways and it has a lot of trees all down the hill. cell phones
rarely
work and break up when they do. I have tried a indoor 1/4 wave
antenna
at my house with murs while I setup a 1/4 wave antenna on their car
at
the campground and no luck.

Would I have any more luck on the cb frequencies? Anyway thanks for
the help










You need to get lowev in freq. I can't just pop the MUF for any given
point in time, but for what you are talking about I would bet that 75,
80 meters would do it most of the time for you as long as it is darkish
of course! :-P

gud luck, 73,
Butch KF5DE

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Old May 31st 05, 09:33 PM
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On Tue, 31 May 2005 02:55:24 GMT, Jim wrote:

hello. I'm not a ham radio operator(yet) but was hoping I could still
get some help here. A relative of mine stays at a rv campground close by
me. Its maybe 2-3 miles if you drew a straight line from my house.

the campground is in a very low area. you drive down a hill for quite a
ways and it has a lot of trees all down the hill. cell phones rarely
work and break up when they do. I have tried a indoor 1/4 wave antenna
at my house with murs while I setup a 1/4 wave antenna on their car at
the campground and no luck.

Would I have any more luck on the cb frequencies? Anyway thanks for the help



Have you tried a raised antenna or are you talking on HTs?

I suspect that if you put up an outdoor vertical CB antenna at both
sites you should have no problems.
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73 for now
Buck
N4PGW
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