ml wrote:
second

I have a arrow 2/440 j pole works great---- it dosn't have any radials
hanging off naturally, so since basically just the center conductor is
connected would you suspect my coax shield is 'part of the antenna'
radiating alot of stuff??

(course the shield does attach to the bottom mounting plate of the
antenna but i wasn't counting that

In the typical J-pole antenna, the shield connects to the long element
and the center to the stub. I don't know your antenna in particular,
but I would suspect this is the case and don't believe it is considered
a radiating element.