Poly no maths wrote:
libel and general crap snipped

Mentally deranged, or what!

Remind us please, what were you saying about libel in your 'Formal
Warning' earlier today?
--
....(_!_)...

On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:21:34 +0100, "Polymath"
wrote:
Pound, Money = sort of like a dollar, but twice as valuable
today: $1.77 (down 10% since Christmas shopping)
and more robust.
What a con job.
100 years ago, today: $4.87
40 years ago, today: $2.80
30 years ago, today: $2.20
20 years ago, today: $1.39
10 years ago, today: $1.60

Robust must mean slumped by 63% - One Time Constant?

Any boost of some 11% in the past decade certainly has to be
attributable to the White House running the printing presses full
steam.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:12:28 GMT,

(ZZZZPK ) wrote:

So... in a NON-POLITICAL way please describe those people of the mid
to late 1700's who went around shooting soldiers who wore REDCOATS and
GOVERNED a land the that was at one stage part of the GREAT BRITISH
EMPIRE and had as one of its main cities BOSTON ?

Hmmm,

The British Empire must, as one would expect, have an Emperor, and
particularly a British Emperor. If we scan the list of Royals over
time, certainly Britain had an Emperor (Carausius) during the Roman
era (hardly worth claiming as being British when you bend your knee to
Rome and that empire didn't even claim Wales).

Nearly as far back ago, there was a ship called Emperor.

There are a specie of penguins called Emperor.

Almost 100 years ago there was a George who went by Emperor and like
our own was numbered. But it wasn't George Trois, in fact it was
suggested that this George adopt the title "Emperor of the British and
Hanoverian Dominions," but he refused (and this suggestion only came
after 1802).

If we rummage around the list of Monarchs, then we find our recent
George, and Edward before him were "Emperors" and only of India. The
first "Emperor" was in fact an Empress (of that same named India).

So, by the question above, it must be discerned that in fact no one
ever took up arms against a GREAT BRITISH EMPIRE nor a MODEST BRITISH
EMPIRE nor even a PIDDLIN' BRITISH EMPIRE. So this usage of BRITISH
EMPIRE must in some sense mean the East India Trading Company (since
the only monarchs called Emperor/Empress are uniquely associated with
that sole state in our antipodes. The East India Trading Company held
property in Hudson Bay, so to put this presumed conflict into the
desired NON-POLITICAL way
Canadian (the people, not the political country) Consumers
revolting against a commercial entity - eh? What a bunch of hosers.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

We, or more correctly our forefathers, were patriots as far as we were
concerned, revolutionists, ingrates, and other labels as perceived by the
British oppressors.

In this case I can give you a few for this situation ; terrorist, raghead,
Muslim extremist. Take your pick.


"ZZZZPK "

s.it.net wrote in message ...
"Fred W4JLE" wrote:

: Actually $1.76 as of today, but used to be worth $2.40.
: Any country too politically correct to call a terrorist a terrorist is
not
: long for the world.


So... in a NON-POLITICAL way please describe those people of the mid
to late 1700's who went around shooting soldiers who wore REDCOATS and
GOVERNED a land the that was at one stage part of the GREAT BRITISH
EMPIRE and had as one of its main cities BOSTON ?

On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:56:13 -0400, "Fred W4JLE"
wrote:
In this case I can give you a few for this situation ; terrorist, raghead,
Muslim extremist. Take your pick.

The raghead is the one at the right in:
http://www.hantmans.com/media/040515...6_rgbHIRES.jpg
the other two are probably the remaining names.

Fred W4JLE wrote:
Actually $1.76 as of today, but used to be worth $2.40.
Any country too politically correct to call a terrorist a terrorist is not
long for the world.


Tis a real shame the spawn of a great people that endured so much with the
"stiff upper lip" are a bunch of wimps!

"Polymath" wrote in message
...


Pound, Money = sort of like a dollar, but twice as valuable and more

robust.




Anyone who underestimates the toughness, tenacity, and resilience of the
British people is a fool. The Irish Republican Army waged a terrorist
campaign against London for years without having any effect
whatsoever on British resolve. While I'm no fan of the British,
I'd like to see some of our whining, sweat-drenched, paranoid
patriots make a stab at doing even half as well.
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH

Richard Clark wrote:

On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:21:34 +0100, "Polymath"
wrote:

Pound, Money = sort of like a dollar, but twice as valuable

today: $1.77 (down 10% since Christmas shopping)

and more robust.

What a con job.
100 years ago, today: $4.87
40 years ago, today: $2.80
30 years ago, today: $2.20
20 years ago, today: $1.39
10 years ago, today: $1.60

Robust must mean slumped by 63% - One Time Constant?

Any boost of some 11% in the past decade certainly has to be
attributable to the White House running the printing presses full
steam.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

The U.K. is in much better shape financially than
the United States. It's in most country's interest
to keep their currency cheap in relation to the
dollar. They can sell more widgets that way.
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH

On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:44:27 GMT, "Tom Donaly"
wrote:

It's in most country's interest
to keep their currency cheap in relation to the
dollar.

Hi Tom,

Seems to be the white house monetary policy too (I wonder if they know
we use the dollar?).

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Richard Clark wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:44:27 GMT, "Tom Donaly"
wrote:


It's in most country's interest
to keep their currency cheap in relation to the
dollar.


Hi Tom,

Seems to be the white house monetary policy too (I wonder if they know
we use the dollar?).

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Hi Richard,
I think the only currency they understand
is oil, which just appreciated mightily against the
dollar.
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH

On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 23:22:57 GMT, "Tom Donaly"
wrote:

Richard Clark wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:44:27 GMT, "Tom Donaly"
wrote:


It's in most country's interest
to keep their currency cheap in relation to the
dollar.


Hi Tom,

Seems to be the white house monetary policy too (I wonder if they know
we use the dollar?).

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Hi Richard,
I think the only currency they understand
is oil, which just appreciated mightily against the
dollar.
73,

Hi Tom,

Funny about that. Before the election, the cost of Gas taxes pushing
a gallon over $2 would cripple us. Instead we pay $2.50 and the
economy is just fine thank you and the arabs get more than the tax
revenue we didn't add. Let's see, we pay them more, take in less tax,
and add a 10 year off-budget item of $100 Billion. Sounds like
Osama's slush fund is doing better than the market. Could be the
golden investment for social security diversion if you didn't end up
in a Git'mo rest home for the aged financial supporters of terrorism.
Who knows? Filling up your gas tank could get you to the tropics
sooner than you might imagine. Flown there on 'Merican Oil? (Such
irony anticipated in the goofs there too.)

A trillion here, and a trillion there, and soon you are talking about
real money.... Let's see, if a million monkeys printed a million
dollars a decade, how much would a banana cost by the next election?
There's one chimp that doesn't care.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Richard Clark wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 23:22:57 GMT, "Tom Donaly"
wrote:


Richard Clark wrote:

On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:44:27 GMT, "Tom Donaly"
wrote:



It's in most country's interest
to keep their currency cheap in relation to the
dollar.


Hi Tom,

Seems to be the white house monetary policy too (I wonder if they know
we use the dollar?).

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Hi Richard,
I think the only currency they understand
is oil, which just appreciated mightily against the
dollar.
73,


Hi Tom,

Funny about that. Before the election, the cost of Gas taxes pushing
a gallon over $2 would cripple us. Instead we pay $2.50 and the
economy is just fine thank you and the arabs get more than the tax
revenue we didn't add. Let's see, we pay them more, take in less tax,
and add a 10 year off-budget item of $100 Billion. Sounds like
Osama's slush fund is doing better than the market. Could be the
golden investment for social security diversion if you didn't end up
in a Git'mo rest home for the aged financial supporters of terrorism.
Who knows? Filling up your gas tank could get you to the tropics
sooner than you might imagine. Flown there on 'Merican Oil? (Such
irony anticipated in the goofs there too.)

A trillion here, and a trillion there, and soon you are talking about
real money.... Let's see, if a million monkeys printed a million
dollars a decade, how much would a banana cost by the next election?
There's one chimp that doesn't care.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Hi Richard,
Indeed. If you're hopelessly in debt, there's one
thing that is guaranteed to save you: runaway inflation. It
worked after Viet Nam and it will work after Iraq.
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH

We only sell weapons to people that aren't intending to shoot at us.

Seems this intention backfired!
--
Philip de Cadenet G4ZOW
Transmitters 'R' Us
http://www.transmittersrus.com

Dear ZZZZPK (no call, no location):

I thought you were describing the Scots until the word "part."
Mac N8TT

--
J. Mc Laughlin; Michigan U.S.A.
Home:
"ZZZZPK "

s.it.net wrote in message ...
snip


So... in a NON-POLITICAL way please describe those people of the mid
to late 1700's who went around shooting soldiers who wore REDCOATS and
GOVERNED a land the that was at one stage part of the GREAT BRITISH
EMPIRE and had as one of its main cities BOSTON ?

Richard Clark wrote:
"Seems to be the white house monitary opolicy too (I wonder if they know
we use the dollar?)."

The white house is dense. The U.S. has been spending 8 billion a year
just to improve Iraqi infrastructure so foreigners might invest in a
place with no law and order. The infrastructure is in desparate need of
repair from war, sabotage, crime, and neglect.

Bush needs to put aside his bias against socialist programs, in a state
which was socialist under addam, and inaugurate WPA and PWA type
programs tp put Iraqi idle minds and hands to work now. This would
immediately put money into the hands of spenders. It would give Iraquis
a stake in the future of Iraq.

Halliburton, Kellog, Brown and Root, et al can`t do it. They aren`t
Iraqis. We`ve been unable to enforce law and order and won`t until it is
clear to be in the best interest of Iraqis to maintain law and order.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI

On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 10:31:59 -0500, (Richard
Harrison) wrote:

The white house is dense. The U.S. has been spending 8 billion a year
just to improve Iraqi infrastructure so foreigners might invest in a
place with no law and order. The infrastructure is in desparate need of
repair from war, sabotage, crime, and neglect.

Hi Richard,

As acknowledge by the white house, this Trillion dollar sink hole is
putting money down the toilet by buying bullets to protect against
suicide bombers (hasn't worked - ever - this has been going on since
Nobel invented dynamite).

Simple resolution with that same Trillion dollars that WOULD solve
things would be to set up shop next door to the guys strapping sticks
of TNT to the Iraqi's vests. Instead, offer to strap packs of $100
for every stick of dynamite they might have lined up for.

Let's say that they would come out looking like a Chia Pet with
$50,000 glommed onto them.

We could do this with every man, woman, and child in all of Iraq.

It won't happen, of course, because there is no will to win the war -
only to fight one. Except for those who have something better to do
with their lives (indirect quote of the draft dodger who shunned
military service to run this corporate franchise called the Pentagon).

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Richard Clark wrote:
"This won`t happen, of course, because there is no will to win the war -
only to fight one."

When WW-2 ended, Churchill was out.

You need something like a battle to be a wartime leader. Hitler had
"Mein Kampf". He and Mussolini wore military uniforms. So did Tojo and
Stalin (Saddam`s role model). Military costumes are worn by most
Latin-American dictators. Fidel Castro (El Comandante) is an example.
Take Mexico, their revolution was almost a century ago, yet the party
which ruled the country until the last election was the Partido
Revolutionario Institutional. Got to keep that military thing alive to
be the leader of choice. Fortunately our president is required to be a
civilian.

The war may get you re-eleected no matter how bably you wage it.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI

Richard Clark wrote:
"--this Trillion dollar sink hole is putting money down the toilet by
buying bullets to protect against suicide bombers--"

Spend some money on bomb sniffing dogs. It`s the explosions that must
end. Let the bombers find a new way to kill themselves.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI

On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 00:32:43 -0500, (Richard
Harrison) wrote:

Spend some money on bomb sniffing dogs. It`s the explosions that must
end. Let the bombers find a new way to kill themselves.

Hi Richard,

white house marching orders were to ignore the ammo dumps (museums,
relief agencies, nuke sites, industrial areas, power plants, water
works, ...) to looters and to protect the energy offices in the
capital.

Once the energy offices were secured, new orders to ignore the
wandering deserters, stay out of the desert smuggler lanes, and avoid
borders - to take command of the pipeline.

Once the pipeline was taken, new orders to ignore securing the
pipeline, or protecting the fields and plants, and to shrug off the
terminals and ports until Haliburton arrived.

Once Haliburton arrived, new orders to abandon military operations to
protect foreign workers (from the US of course), and convert aid
workers to informants for intelligence operatives (increasing the
demand on the Armed Forces to protect even more civilians) and to
patrol in advance of civilian operated trucking operations. Military
personnel were diverted from mission to build and secure the "Green
Zone," a soviet style encampment modeled after Kabul during the
(failed) occupation.

Then reduce troop count.

Then raise troop count.

Then extend tours.

Then cap retirement and discharges.

Then institute rotations guaranteed for 10 years out. Not to mention
being humbled into a death gratuity raise, and more pay. Quick
discharge for those medically unfit due to "non-combat" injuries (a
bureaucratic double shuffle).

Clearly there is absolutely no will to win. There is every will to
balance this war on the back of men in uniform though and to rob the
treasury to pay contractors 5 to 10 times as much to do the same work
of a qualified grunt, who has to train these clowns and then take an
RPG while watching their backs.

The draft dodgers and goldbricks that inhabit the administration never
learned the lessons of Vietnam - they had more important things to do
with their life when other men in uniform were preserving freedom and
Democracy and standing against the Communist menace.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

No, no, no.

The pound is robust. The dollar is taking a long time to
catch up in value.

"Richard Clark" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:21:34 +0100, "Polymath"
wrote:
Pound, Money = sort of like a dollar, but twice as valuable
today: $1.77 (down 10% since Christmas shopping)
and more robust.
What a con job.
100 years ago, today: $4.87
40 years ago, today: $2.80
30 years ago, today: $2.20
20 years ago, today: $1.39
10 years ago, today: $1.60

Robust must mean slumped by 63% - One Time Constant?

On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:33:53 +0100, "Polymath"
wrote:

No, no, no.

What touching agony in that expression [classic denial].

The pound is robust. The dollar is taking a long time to
catch up in value.

Uh-huh, and back when the conversion rate was nearly 1 for 5 and
there was an "empire," how much Gold could you get in conversion?

If robust means plummeted by 95% and ruling an island, then you
probably have a stock portfolio full of Dot.Coms.

Don't take this as a stick in the eye from your 'Merican cousins, our
white house is trying to get us to grow our hair long so we can braid
it in queues before we start doing laundry for the Chinese. Its our
new Social Security investment plan in the future.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Richard Clark wrote:

: The British Empire must, as one would expect, have an Emperor, and
: particularly a British Emperor. If we scan the list of Royals over
: time, certainly Britain had an Emperor (Carausius) during the Roman


i think ( 80% sure-ish) you'll find that
ONE of the lesser known titles of
HRH QE II is EMPEROR

"Fred W4JLE" wrote:

: We, or more correctly our forefathers, were patriots as far as we were
: concerned, revolutionists, ingrates, and other labels as perceived by the
: British oppressors.

exactly my point.

some of the countries of TODAY who seem to POLICE THE WORLD
were themselves CREATED as a result of acts of TERRORISM.

Some of these countries ACTUALLY CELEBRATE the results of
this TERRORISM on some day during the year.

A topic usually IGNORED.

"ZZZZPK "

wrote in message ...
Richard Clark wrote:

: The British Empire must, as one would expect, have an Emperor, and
: particularly a British Emperor. If we scan the list of Royals over
: time, certainly Britain had an Emperor (Carausius) during the Roman


i think ( 80% sure-ish) you'll find that
ONE of the lesser known titles of
HRH QE II is EMPEROR

Not since 1947.

--
73

Gerry G0RTN
Vanity Page at http://www.gerrylynch.co.uk

Another one is "The Great Parasite Of Windsor"

"ZZZZPK "

wrote in message ...
Richard Clark wrote:

: The British Empire must, as one would expect, have an Emperor, and
: particularly a British Emperor. If we scan the list of Royals over
: time, certainly Britain had an Emperor (Carausius) during the Roman


i think ( 80% sure-ish) you'll find that
ONE of the lesser known titles of
HRH QE II is EMPEROR

"Gerard Lynch" wrote:


: Not since 1947.

i wasnt referring to ''over here''

On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 21:40:02 +0100, Walt Davidson
wrote:

On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 12:56:44 -0500, Cecil Moore
wrote:

For a police state to exist, the first step is
to disarm the citizens.

The citizens in this country have never been armed, and in fact even
hand-guns for sport use were recently outlawed.

73 de G3NYY

OK. For a police state to exist, the second step is saturation
video surveillance of the downtown area of your capital.

The third step is to destroy the public library system through
non-judicially-supervised, on-demand, secret surveillance.

On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:37:51 GMT, "Tom Donaly"
wrote:

Fred W4JLE wrote:
Actually $1.76 as of today, but used to be worth $2.40.
Any country too politically correct to call a terrorist a terrorist is not
long for the world.


Tis a real shame the spawn of a great people that endured so much with the
"stiff upper lip" are a bunch of wimps!

"Polymath" wrote in message
...


Pound, Money = sort of like a dollar, but twice as valuable and more

robust.




Anyone who underestimates the toughness, tenacity, and resilience of the

... for which, read -- dogged intransigence in defense of
imperialism.

British people is a fool. The Irish Republican Army waged a terrorist
campaign against London for years

... until?

without having any effect
whatsoever on British resolve. While I'm no fan of the British,
I'd like to see some of our whining, sweat-drenched, paranoid
patriots make a stab at doing even half as well.
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH

On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 09:15:45 -0700, Richard Clark
wrote:

On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 10:31:59 -0500, (Richard
Harrison) wrote:

The white house is dense. The U.S. has been spending 8 billion a year
just to improve Iraqi infrastructure so foreigners might invest in a
place with no law and order. The infrastructure is in desparate need of
repair from war, sabotage, crime, and neglect.

Hi Richard,

As acknowledge by the white house, this Trillion dollar sink hole is
putting money down the toilet by buying bullets to protect against
suicide bombers (hasn't worked - ever - this has been going on since
Nobel invented dynamite).

Simple resolution with that same Trillion dollars that WOULD solve
things would be to set up shop next door to the guys strapping sticks
of TNT to the Iraqi's vests. Instead, offer to strap packs of $100
for every stick of dynamite they might have lined up for.

Let's say that they would come out looking like a Chia Pet with
$50,000 glommed onto them.

We could do this with every man, woman, and child in all of Iraq.

What makes you think we'll figure this out for Iraq when we
can't dope out that a couple thousand worth of meaningful pre-natal
care would save thousands in prisoner maintenance down the road at
home.



It won't happen, of course, because there is no will to win the war -
only to fight one. Except for those who have something better to do
with their lives (indirect quote of the draft dodger who shunned
military service to run this corporate franchise called the Pentagon).

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 00:01:20 -0700, Richard Clark
wrote:



Clearly there is absolutely no will to win. There is every will to
balance this war on the back of men in uniform though and to rob the
treasury to pay contractors 5 to 10 times as much to do the same work
of a qualified grunt, who has to train these clowns and then take an
RPG while watching their backs.

A lot of the "security contractor" thing is a charade anyway.
Before the stop-loss insanity, many of the qualified smart grunts and
their officers bailed out of the military and formed, or went to work
for, the "contractors" for the larger salaries. Then we have the gall
to express horror when these "civilians" are targeted. They've only
changed uniforms.




The draft dodgers and goldbricks that inhabit the administration never
learned the lessons of Vietnam - they had more important things to do
with their life when other men in uniform were preserving freedom and
Democracy and standing against the Communist menace.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 at 22:55:41, wrote:

On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:37:51 GMT, "Tom Donaly"
wrote:

Anyone who underestimates the toughness, tenacity, and resilience of the
British people is a fool. The Irish Republican Army waged a terrorist
campaign against London for years

... until?


You Americans got a taste of terrorism in your own back yard and lost
interest in funding Irish Republican terrorists.

It's a shame it took so long.

We Americans are are at the root of all the worlds problems. It has been so
stated by Saddam Hussen, Castro, and various other idiots, and now
confirmed by you.

Find a spot on my big fat hairy McDonalds eating ass and kiss it. I weary of
your anti American rhetoric and lack of appreciation for saving your sorry
asses!

You fail to take responsibility for your own lives and like petulant
children find it easier blame America.





"Polymoth" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 at 22:55:41, wrote:
You Americans got a taste of terrorism in your own back yard and lost
interest in funding Irish Republican terrorists.

It's a shame it took so long.

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:20:47 -0400, "Fred W4JLE"
Gave us:

We Americans are are at the root of all the worlds problems. It has been so
stated by Saddam Hussen, Castro, and various other idiots, and now
confirmed by you.

Find a spot on my big fat hairy McDonalds eating ass and kiss it. I weary of
your anti American rhetoric and lack of appreciation for saving your sorry
asses!

You fail to take responsibility for your own lives and like petulant
children find it easier blame America.



Here here... there there...



"Polymoth" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 at 22:55:41, wrote:
You Americans got a taste of terrorism in your own back yard and lost
interest in funding Irish Republican terrorists.

It's a shame it took so long.



We "funded" the IRA?

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:23:26 GMT, NunYa Bidness
wrote:

We "funded" the IRA?

To much inhalation of Los Angles smog can be the only answer that
would explain not knowing that.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

NunYa Bidness wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:20:47 -0400, "Fred W4JLE"
Gave us:


We Americans are are at the root of all the worlds problems. It has been so
stated by Saddam Hussen, Castro, and various other idiots, and now
confirmed by you.

Find a spot on my big fat hairy McDonalds eating ass and kiss it. I weary of
your anti American rhetoric and lack of appreciation for saving your sorry
asses!

You fail to take responsibility for your own lives and like petulant
children find it easier blame America.




Here here... there there...



"Polymoth" wrote in message
. ..

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 at 22:55:41, wrote:
You Americans got a taste of terrorism in your own back yard and lost
interest in funding Irish Republican terrorists.

It's a shame it took so long.



We "funded" the IRA?

The British have always been under the impression that
we Americans saved our pennies for the sole purpose of
sending them to the IRA to finance the IRA's terrorist practices.
This is news to those of us who lived through the whole
era without giving anyone anything, or even taking sides
on the issue. There may have been a few Irish expatriots on
the East Coast who contributed to the IRA during that time,
but, for most Americans, it was a struggle that just didn't
register.
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH

I have always used the CFA as a mobile antenna!

Get with the program people, you will be hard pressed to find a better
antenna for this purpose!

As a shack antenna, it sucks!

However, what other antenna can you chuck a motor into, slap a
steering wheel and horn on and drive?

You guys are all wet, as usual... satisfied-smirk

John

"Polymath" wrote in message
...
Actually, just did a quick webbing and found enough to
realise that the claims are founded upon feet of clay.....

1. You do not separately excite the E and H fields because
if you excite an E field, you get a corresponding H field, and
vice-versa,
even if it is your intention to excite separately.

2. The differential forms of Maxwell describe the fields at _EVERY_
infinitesimal point and there is no way that the attempt to excite
two
separate fields from two separate mechanical contrivances will
result
in registration at every single point. Indeed, it is doubtful that
registration
will be achieved at all at any infinitesimal point. In any case, as
in (1) above,
your E field will have its H, and your H field will have its E field
already.

3. In the accepted equations describing the generated field,
radiation comes only
from accelerating charges. Thus the capacitive elements of the CFA
will
create the near field (decaying as 1/(r^2)) but not any radiated
field
(decaying as 1/r). I wonder if the measurements resulting in the
claims
for the CFA were made in the near field?

I wonder if the whole thing is intended as an elaborate hoax, and
that the
authors, in their original paper in Wireless World, relied on the
fact that
most readers' eyes would glaze over when faced with the maths of
vector
fields? (Remember, that in this NG we've had someone who boasts of
two degrees, one in maths and the other in electronics, stating that
e^(-jwt)
is a function that decreases with increasing time, thus indicating
that the
awarding of a degree together with the professing of mathematical
equations is no guarantee of competence!)

I suggest
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teachin...es/node53.html etc
as a good revising/learning/debunking cookbook. (Don't start from
node 53!)

"Polymath" wrote in message
...
I've just about got enough elec-and-mag theory to be
able to understand the claims made for the GM3HAT
CFA; any pointers to the patent claims?

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 22:45:25 +0000, kashe wrote:

On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 21:40:02 +0100, Walt Davidson
wrote:

On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 12:56:44 -0500, Cecil Moore
wrote:

For a police state to exist, the first step is
to disarm the citizens.

The citizens in this country have never been armed, and in fact even
hand-guns for sport use were recently outlawed.

73 de G3NYY

OK. For a police state to exist, the second step is saturation
video surveillance of the downtown area of your capital.

Good idea. It certainly helped the Brits nail down the perps.

The third step is to destroy the public library system through
non-judicially-supervised, on-demand, secret surveillance.

I hope you don't get your engineering information from CBS news too.

--
Keith

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:44:23 -0700, Richard Clark
Gave us:

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:23:26 GMT, NunYa Bidness
wrote:

We "funded" the IRA?

To much inhalation of Los Angles smog can be the only answer that
would explain not knowing that.


Never been there, though the news server my ISP utilizes is there. I
can also log onto one of several others from Texas to Nevada. All
prodigy. ISP: SBC. Go figure.

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:53:42 -0700, "John Smith"
Gave us:

You guys are all wet, as usual... satisfied-smirk


I suppose then that you consider yourself to be firmly grounded in
reality.

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 23:49:42 -0400, keith Gave us:

I hope you don't get your engineering information from CBS news too.

They have a second channel now? :-)

Firmly grounded?

Actually, when I am finished installing the mercedes turbo-jet engine
in the CFA, I plan on flying it!--well, after installing the carbon
graphite wings...

John

"NunYa Bidness" wrote in message
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:53:42 -0700, "John Smith"
Gave us:

You guys are all wet, as usual... satisfied-smirk


I suppose then that you consider yourself to be firmly grounded in
reality.