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Richard Harrison wrote:
Phil wrote: "If not, what other homebrew antenna will be fine for the purpose?" I believe Walter Maxwell, W2DU, while working with RCA`s satellite program, designed quadrafilar helix antennas to communicate with the birds. Look at their pattern on page 765 of Kraus` 3rd edition of "Antennas", then compare with patterns shown on pages 763 and 764. The advantage is clear. Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI Because one of the very important functions of a TV antenna is to reduce multi-path interference causing fading and ghosting, directionality is essential. The quadrifilar helix I'm familiar with is a normal-mode helix; that is, the maximum radiation or reception is broadside to the helix, and it has an omnidirectional horizontal pattern when the axis is vertical. That would be a poor choice for a TV antenna. You might, though, consider an axial mode helix. That's one which has maximum radiation or reception in the direction of the helix axis. I don't have any direct experience with them, but believe they can be made fairly broadbanded. It might be pretty large and cumbersome, though. You should be able to find design data on the web for an axial mode helix. Sorry, I don't have the third edition of Kraus yet. Is there really a fairly directional quadrifilar helix in it? In the second edition, the quadrifilar helix is described as a normal mode helix, which is my experience, and the pattern shown in the book of a conventional normal mode helix resembles that of a dipole as it should. Quadrifilar helices are commonly used for GPS receivers, where an omnidirectional pattern is desirable. By the way, I finally got a copy of Bailey -- I came across a copy the other day at Powell's Technical Bookstore, for $15! Roy Lewallen, W7EL |
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Arrgh! I confused this thread with a recent one asking about UHF TV
antennas. My response wasn't at all appropriate to this discussion. I agree completely with Richard Harrison, a quadrifilar helix is probably a good choice for this application. I sincerely apologize to Richard and other readers for my carelessness and mistake. Roy Lewallen, W7EL Roy Lewallen wrote: Because one of the very important functions of a TV antenna is to reduce multi-path interference causing fading and ghosting, directionality is essential. The quadrifilar helix I'm familiar with is a normal-mode helix; that is, the maximum radiation or reception is broadside to the helix, and it has an omnidirectional horizontal pattern when the axis is vertical. That would be a poor choice for a TV antenna. . . |
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Roy Lewallen, W7EL wrote:
"I confused this thread with a recent one asking about UHF TV antennas." I understand. My strugle with TV reflections involved antennas atop the corporate headquarters. We had to have a perfect color picture in the executive lounge and there was no cable yet. The founder, chairmman and CEO was proud of his luxury and toys. We had a lot of signal, but too many signals due to other skyscrapers around ours. With sharp enough antennas we were able to clean up the mess. Better a hero than a goat! I think I was very lucky today. I had typed the previous posting and was about to hit the send button when the electric power failed. I was sure it would mean retyping. However, when power was restored, I wert to the archive and found it in storage. Hooray! Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI |
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Roy Lewallen, W7EL wrote:
"Because one of the very important functions of TV antennas is to introduce multipath interference causing fading and ghosting, directionality is essential." Yes indeed! In an urban invironment that is especially important. I`ve fought the battle to suppress ghosting and smearing. But, my signal sources were nearly horizontal and they reflected like billiard balls from every reflective object they encountered. Reflections were often in the horizontal plane same as the incident signal. I would think that shortly after a satellite makes it above the horizon, the incudent wave`s reflected signals would be headed skyward and be unlikely to cause much trouble at the receiver. The quadrafilar helix pattern appears something like a mushroom. Roy also wrote: "Sorry, I don`t have the 3rd edition of Kraus yet." I only recently got it. Now I think it is unfortunate I didn`t have it on order before it was released. It is crammed with good stuff. Roy also wrote: "By the way, I finally got a copy of Bailey ---I came across a copy the other day at Powell`s Technical Bookstore for $15 ! " Congratulations! Hope you enjoy it as much as I. His catalog pf various antennas is without par. His theory is systematic and concise. He must have been a tremendous asset at Bell Labs. Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI |
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