Fred W4JLE wrote:

Nonsense John, today's college graduate is more in line with the high school
graduates of the fifties. I hired enough of your "highly educated"
graduates to be more than a casual observer.

They knew every thing there was to know about political correctness, liberal
thinking, and how to bitch if they were not given everything on a platter
the day they hired in.

I assigned an engineer the task of designing a simple serial interface to a
piece of equipment. He told me "we didn't cover that in school". Today A's
are passed out to everyone, in some schools, so as not to make the others
feel bad.

Give me an old time ham or a Navy trained technician, at least they had the
basics. Many of today's graduates are over paid at minimum wage.

I hired many newly degreed engineers in the 1980s. It took 5 to 8 years
of actual work before they became real engineers. Several engineers from
'highly' accredited universities were dismissed because they wouldn't or
couldn't write a simple technical report.

Check the Harvard University graduation list. EVERYBODY is a high honors
graduate!!! More than 90% of Harvard graduates are high honors. I find
that hard to believe.

And thus the reason for "No Code / Slow Code".

The mantra today is "I want it so give it to me!"

Then justify it by claming those that have learned the requirements are just
trying to feel superior. A real no no in these days of no score soccer
games...

Someday they will realize the animus is not about code, it is about their
attitudes.

"Ham op" wrote in message
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Check the Harvard University graduation list. EVERYBODY is a high honors
graduate!!! More than 90% of Harvard graduates are high honors. I find
that hard to believe.

Fred W4JLE wrote:
The mantra today is "I want it so give it to me!"

My dog is like that but I love her anyway. And it's typical
of most animal species. So shouldn't the blame lie instead
with the governmental bureaucrats who freely dole out the
welfare packages?
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Cecil:

I'd just about bet, your first job/corp/supervisor felt just about the same
about you (me too for that matter), some of those old guys were great
though--they even managed to hide their disgust of our ignorance from us--but
they had better training back then!!!
innocent-look

John

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
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Fred W4JLE wrote:
The mantra today is "I want it so give it to me!"

My dog is like that but I love her anyway. And it's typical
of most animal species. So shouldn't the blame lie instead
with the governmental bureaucrats who freely dole out the
welfare packages?
--
73, Cecil, http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


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John Smith wrote:
I'd just about bet, your first job/corp/supervisor felt just about the same
about you (me too for that matter), ...

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
So shouldn't the blame lie instead
with the governmental bureaucrats who freely dole out the
welfare packages?

Please note that I didn't utter a word about private
enterprise. I have never worked for a government.
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But we had one thing lacking today, it is called respect.

You, just yesterday tried to point out to a poster his lack of respect for
Roy. Accomplishments are viewed by the youth of today as a thing to distain,
as it makes those who have accomplished nothing feel bad.

"Let's play soccer, but no score keeping so no one loses"

"It feels bad to lose, and we don't want to make anyone feel bad"

"Everyone should receive A's so no one can feel superior, making someone
feel inferior is not a good thing"

"WE CAN'T PROFILE TERRORISTS AS IT WOULD CREATE NEGATIVE MESSAGES, MAKING
THEM FEEL BAD"


"John Smith" wrote in message
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Cecil:

I'd just about bet, your first job/corp/supervisor felt just about the
same
about you (me too for that matter), some of those old guys were great
though--they even managed to hide their disgust of our ignorance from
us--but
they had better training back then!!!
innocent-look

John

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
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Fred W4JLE wrote:
The mantra today is "I want it so give it to me!"

My dog is like that but I love her anyway. And it's typical
of most animal species. So shouldn't the blame lie instead
with the governmental bureaucrats who freely dole out the
welfare packages?
--
73, Cecil, http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


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Fred:

Well, I am a bit embarrassed about that, perhaps I was bit rash...

I should have explained in better words that he obviously did not know Roy's
history and past record of accomplishments, or obvious contributions to the
field. It is one thing to carry on a difficult argument with unknown
personalities here, quite another to attack known ones--that was my point
really.

Frankly, that poster was able to annoy me... I am working on becoming a better
person, seems it is going to take a lifetime...

Still, that poster is probably a big boy and can withstand my loss of
demeanor...

John

"Fred W4JLE" wrote in message
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But we had one thing lacking today, it is called respect.

You, just yesterday tried to point out to a poster his lack of respect for
Roy. Accomplishments are viewed by the youth of today as a thing to distain,
as it makes those who have accomplished nothing feel bad.

"Let's play soccer, but no score keeping so no one loses"

"It feels bad to lose, and we don't want to make anyone feel bad"

"Everyone should receive A's so no one can feel superior, making someone
feel inferior is not a good thing"

"WE CAN'T PROFILE TERRORISTS AS IT WOULD CREATE NEGATIVE MESSAGES, MAKING
THEM FEEL BAD"


"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Cecil:

I'd just about bet, your first job/corp/supervisor felt just about the
same
about you (me too for that matter), some of those old guys were great
though--they even managed to hide their disgust of our ignorance from
us--but
they had better training back then!!!
innocent-look

John

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
...
Fred W4JLE wrote:
The mantra today is "I want it so give it to me!"

My dog is like that but I love her anyway. And it's typical
of most animal species. So shouldn't the blame lie instead
with the governmental bureaucrats who freely dole out the
welfare packages?
--
73, Cecil, http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


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