In light of Colin Powell's position that the fate of the poorer people
of New Orleans was not due to racism, but only failing to realize
that those people had no means for transportation out of the city, it
seems to me that racism and bigotry were not involved. To me it's
significant that that position is held by a highly-respected person of
color.

Walt, W2DU


On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:36:56 -0700, Richard Clark
wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 10:41:17 -0400, "Fred W4JLE"
wrote:

A few moments spent perusing a dictionary will show that simply refusing to
take in a storm victim, while abhorrent to me, does not make one a bigot.

from the Oxford English Dictionary:

Bigot. 1598. 1. A hypocrite. 2. A superstitious person - 1664. 3. A
person obstinately and unreasonably wedded to a creed, opinion or
ritual - 1661. Intolerant toward others - 1645.

Hardly seems that the meaning has veered from this in the past 340
years.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Even more frustrating is the number of school buses controlled by a black
Mayor that never were put in to evacuation service. The same buses now set
in water and I am sure they will be replaced at taxpayers expense.

As I was somewhat involved in the political debacle, I can tell you from
personal experience that Red Cross and amateur radio vans were prohibited
from entering the disaster area.

My cynical side says that in the background, a chance was both seen and
taken to make George Bush look bad. The democrat political machine in New
Orleans is only surpassed by that of Chicago.

I know for a fact the Red Cross was told that if they were to feed the
people in the superdome they would stay.

Some how I find it ironical that a black mayor applied the same wisdom to
his people that my mother applied to the neighborhood stay dog I attempted
to feed.

Where were all the murdered bodies, in the superdome, the press reported on
so breathlessly?

The must have hid them in Al Capone's vault to make Geraldo look bad; as he
worked for the evil Fox network...

Of course the more the race card is played, the more money is offered by
white America to assuage the implied guilt. Black poloticos have learned
this lesson well!



"Walter Maxwell" wrote in message
...
In light of Colin Powell's position that the fate of the poorer people
of New Orleans was not due to racism, but only failing to realize
that those people had no means for transportation out of the city, it
seems to me that racism and bigotry were not involved. To me it's
significant that that position is held by a highly-respected person of
color.

Walt, W2DU

Fred W4JLE wrote:
Even more frustrating is the number of school buses controlled by a black
Mayor that never were put in to evacuation service. The same buses now set
in water and I am sure they will be replaced at taxpayers expense.

As I was somewhat involved in the political debacle, I can tell you from
personal experience that Red Cross and amateur radio vans were prohibited
from entering the disaster area.

My cynical side says that in the background, a chance was both seen and
taken to make George Bush look bad. The democrat political machine in New
Orleans is only surpassed by that of Chicago.

It is a tad more than that, Fred.

One of the things that causes me to question the astuteness of so many
Republicans is that they steadfastly refuse to take any responsibility
for anything. Ever.

They are in power now. They hold the House, the Senate, and the White
House. They quite simply ARE responsible by default.

Unfortunately, so many of them appear to be in the finger pointing
mode, which is what they have done for so many years.

At some point, it looks like all they can do is point fingers, not
actually solve problems.

If after being in just about complete power for the last 6 years, and
only out of power in the presidency for 8 of the last seemingly
gazillion years, how can this be?

If by this time they haven't reined in the Democreeps, Demacraps,
Leeberuls, bleeding hearts, class warfarists, soccer moms, and even us
middle of the road "Dead Skunks", who are blamed for every problem on
the face of the earth, then what?

Can't have it both ways - unless those people who are not in power are
somehow more powerful than the people who are in power. At some point
people aren't' going to believe the finger pointing any more.


I know for a fact the Red Cross was told that if they were to feed the
people in the superdome they would stay.

Who told 'em that?

Some how I find it ironical that a black mayor applied the same wisdom to
his people that my mother applied to the neighborhood stay dog I attempted
to feed.

Where were all the murdered bodies, in the superdome, the press reported on
so breathlessly?

I didn't hear those reports, Fred, except for a report of a body that
was washed up against the Superdome.

The must have hid them in Al Capone's vault to make Geraldo look bad; as he
worked for the evil Fox network...

Is Al in Louisiana? Where are your sources? Or is this just the
indirect finger pointing business again?

Of course the more the race card is played, the more money is offered by
white America to assuage the implied guilt. Black poloticos have learned
this lesson well!

You've been playing the race card a lot here, as well as a lot of other
good God-fearing 'Pubs.



"Walter Maxwell" wrote in message
...

In light of Colin Powell's position that the fate of the poorer people
of New Orleans was not due to racism, but only failing to realize
that those people had no means for transportation out of the city, it
seems to me that racism and bigotry were not involved. To me it's
significant that that position is held by a highly-respected person of
color.

Walt, W2DU

Mike Coslo wrote:

Fred W4JLE wrote:

Even more frustrating is the number of school buses controlled by a black
Mayor that never were put in to evacuation service. The same buses now
set
in water and I am sure they will be replaced at taxpayers expense.

As I was somewhat involved in the political debacle, I can tell you from
personal experience that Red Cross and amateur radio vans were prohibited
from entering the disaster area.

My cynical side says that in the background, a chance was both seen and
taken to make George Bush look bad. The democrat political machine in New
Orleans is only surpassed by that of Chicago.


It is a tad more than that, Fred.

One of the things that causes me to question the astuteness of so
many Republicans is that they steadfastly refuse to take any
responsibility for anything. Ever.

They are in power now. They hold the House, the Senate, and the
White House. They quite simply ARE responsible by default.

SNIPPED in the interest of saving meaningless reading time.

Mike, It seems that you do NOT understand the Federalist, philosophic
and political principle of Subsidiarity.

In a Federalist system, such as the USA, responsibility begins at the
LOWEST level of government and rises as the problems exceed local
capability. Then local government [eg. city] requests assistance from
the next level of government [eg county]. County, after they cannot
assist, requests assistance from state. State then requests assistance
from regional or Federal government. It does take time for things to rise.

In you view the national government, GW Bush, is 100% responsible if a
city fence falls into your backyard. It doesn't work that way.

Also, you seem to forget that the MOST POWERFUL person in the National
Government is NOT the President. It's not even in the Executive Branch.
Do you know who it is? Think about it!

On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 08:50:47 -0400, Ham op wrote:

They are in power now. They hold the House, the Senate, and the
White House. They quite simply ARE responsible by default.

In you view the national government, GW Bush, is 100% responsible if a
city fence falls into your backyard. It doesn't work that way.

Hi Phil,

What a nervous twitch. Eager to pin it to 100% as more easily
defended? Zen politics.

Reading across the republican spectrum reveals that they are
struggling with his performance far more than the left - and no doubt
given this is the first left-wing fascist administration they've ever
backed.

It won't be many years before the republicans blame Clinton for GW.
You see, that is what works for tying 100% responsibility (or 68%,
minimum passing).

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

If the poor people of New Orleans didn't have transportation out of town
it was because their elected Mayor refused to have them humiliated by
having to leave town in a school bus or city bus. He wanted Greyhound
busses with working air-conditioning for them.

It's in the disaster plan to use busses for evacuation. Read it.



Walter Maxwell wrote:
In light of Colin Powell's position that the fate of the poorer people
of New Orleans was not due to racism, but only failing to realize
that those people had no means for transportation out of the city, it
seems to me that racism and bigotry were not involved. To me it's
significant that that position is held by a highly-respected person of
color.

Walt, W2DU


On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:36:56 -0700, Richard Clark
wrote:


On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 10:41:17 -0400, "Fred W4JLE"
wrote:


A few moments spent perusing a dictionary will show that simply refusing to
take in a storm victim, while abhorrent to me, does not make one a bigot.


from the Oxford English Dictionary:

Bigot. 1598. 1. A hypocrite. 2. A superstitious person - 1664. 3. A
person obstinately and unreasonably wedded to a creed, opinion or
ritual - 1661. Intolerant toward others - 1645.

Hardly seems that the meaning has veered from this in the past 340
years.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

David G. Nagel wrote:
It's in the disaster plan to use busses for evacuation.

One news service reported that billions earmarked for mass
transit and levee improvements had been spent on advertising
for the tourism industry.
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Not to mention the purchase of a casino and the construction of a Marina.

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
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David G. Nagel wrote:
It's in the disaster plan to use busses for evacuation.

One news service reported that billions earmarked for mass
transit and levee improvements had been spent on advertising
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Fred W4JLE wrote:
Not to mention the purchase of a casino and the construction of a Marina.

I wonder if any of that money was used for Trips to Scotland?

- mike KB3EIA -

David G. Nagel wrote:

If the poor people of New Orleans didn't have transportation out of town
it was because their elected Mayor refused to have them humiliated by
having to leave town in a school bus or city bus. He wanted Greyhound
busses with working air-conditioning for them.

It's in the disaster plan to use busses for evacuation. Read it.



Yep, I know I'd refuse to leave a doomed area if I couldn't go in an air
conditioned vehicle. It would have to have leather seats, too. Can't
have anybody dissing me.

What B as in B, S as in S.

tom
K0TAR