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aRKay September 18th 05 04:55 AM

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aRKay wrote:

I just purchased a Ten-Tec 1208 Transverter to get my feet wet on six
meters. I would like to use my existing W9INN fan dipole if possible.
At the present time the fan dipole has three sets of wires from the
common feed point for 40/80, 10 MHz and 18 MHz. My plan is to add
another short set of wires cut for 50.125 MHz. Since each of the new
wires will only be 4.67 feet, I plan to use stand offs and run them
close to the 40/80 dipoles. It will be interesting to see if this
really works. Any suggestions for the short stand off insulators?

Dick, AA5VU
aa5vu at arrl.net


I have decided to hold off changing anything until I get the Transverter
next week. I will then see if someone is close before I start messing
with extra wires.

The problem with adding another set of wires for 50.125 is how to keep
them from getting tangled in the wind. I have visions of them wrapping
around the 40/80 set of wires.

Stay tuned for what happens. Half the fun of getting a new toy like the
six meter transverter will be finding the right antenna.

Dick aa5Vu

aRKay September 18th 05 04:56 AM

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wrote:

The ringo ranger is vertical and most 6m stuff is horizontal. On skip
that may not hurt but for local it's very poor.

Allison
KB1GMX


Good response. I will not waste time messing with the old Ringo Ranger.

Harold Burton September 18th 05 05:18 AM


"aRKay" wrote in message
...
In article ,
wrote:

The ringo ranger is vertical and most 6m stuff is horizontal. On skip
that may not hurt but for local it's very poor.

Allison
KB1GMX


Good response. I will not waste time messing with the old Ringo Ranger.


Don't give up on the vertical too quickly. I use both a 6 meter dipole and a
6 meter J-pole, 90% of my 6 meter contacts have been with the J-pole. Some
of the more experienced Hams of my acquaintance have told me that DX sort of
works outside of the normal vertical/horizontal polarization expectation. I
rarely have any occasion for a local 6 meter
contact. so am not able to speak about that aspect of the 6 meter band.

Harold
KD5SAK



aRKay September 18th 05 11:51 AM

In article ,
"Harold Burton" wrote:

"aRKay" wrote in message
...
In article ,
wrote:

The ringo ranger is vertical and most 6m stuff is horizontal. On skip
that may not hurt but for local it's very poor.

Allison
KB1GMX


Good response. I will not waste time messing with the old Ringo Ranger.


Don't give up on the vertical too quickly. I use both a 6 meter dipole and a
6 meter J-pole, 90% of my 6 meter contacts have been with the J-pole. Some
of the more experienced Hams of my acquaintance have told me that DX sort of
works outside of the normal vertical/horizontal polarization expectation. I
rarely have any occasion for a local 6 meter
contact. so am not able to speak about that aspect of the 6 meter band.

Harold
KD5SAK


Thanks Harold. I forgot about the J-pole and I may try one while
playing around with the new stuff.

Dick - AA5VU

[email protected] September 18th 05 03:20 PM

On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 23:18:03 -0500, "Harold Burton"
wrote:


"aRKay" wrote in message
...
In article ,
wrote:

The ringo ranger is vertical and most 6m stuff is horizontal. On skip
that may not hurt but for local it's very poor.

Allison
KB1GMX


Good response. I will not waste time messing with the old Ringo Ranger.


Don't give up on the vertical too quickly. I use both a 6 meter dipole and a
6 meter J-pole, 90% of my 6 meter contacts have been with the J-pole. Some
of the more experienced Hams of my acquaintance have told me that DX sort of
works outside of the normal vertical/horizontal polarization expectation. I
rarely have any occasion for a local 6 meter
contact. so am not able to speak about that aspect of the 6 meter band.

Harold
KD5SAK


Experience is that my vertical beam hears far less DX than the
horizontal. Occasionally I hear DX on the Vertical that is better
but on confirming the other end is also vertical. So it goes.
I do have vertical for those times where it may help. One thing I do
notice is the noise level of the vertical beam is far worse.

For local use the horizontal is usually 2-3 Sunits higher than the
vertical.

Allison
KB1GMX

[email protected] September 18th 05 03:21 PM

On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 03:55:02 GMT, aRKay wrote:

In article
,
aRKay wrote:

I just purchased a Ten-Tec 1208 Transverter to get my feet wet on six
meters. I would like to use my existing W9INN fan dipole if possible.
At the present time the fan dipole has three sets of wires from the
common feed point for 40/80, 10 MHz and 18 MHz. My plan is to add
another short set of wires cut for 50.125 MHz. Since each of the new
wires will only be 4.67 feet, I plan to use stand offs and run them
close to the 40/80 dipoles. It will be interesting to see if this
really works. Any suggestions for the short stand off insulators?


I have one of those TT1208s and it's been a good tool for 6m. I have
some impressive contacts off it and a 3 element beam. Enjoy it.

Allison

Tam/WB2TT September 18th 05 06:02 PM


wrote in message

Occasionally I hear DX on the Vertical that is better
but on confirming the other end is also vertical. So it goes.
I do have vertical for those times where it may help. One thing I do
notice is the noise level of the vertical beam is far worse.

For local use the horizontal is usually 2-3 Sunits higher than the
vertical.

Allison
KB1GMX


Before somebody tells you that polarization is unimportant for a skip
signal, your 6 meter observations parallel what I found on 40. I had a 40
dipole and 40 GP vertical. In round table test with stations 400 - 800 miles
away, people with verticals preferred my vertical, and people with dipoles
preferred my dipole. There were a few people who could not tell the
difference.

Tam/WB2TT



aRKay September 19th 05 02:12 PM

In article ,
wrote:


I have one of those TT1208s and it's been a good tool for 6m. I have
some impressive contacts off it and a 3 element beam. Enjoy it.

Allison


Allison,

I have heard good things about the Ten Tec Transverter and figured it
was time to give it a try. I am a RTTY Junkie and noticed a six meter
RTTY spot yesterday. The 1208 should be here on Tuesday.

Dick AA5VU

Ralph Mowery September 19th 05 11:32 PM


Allison,

I have heard good things about the Ten Tec Transverter and figured it
was time to give it a try. I am a RTTY Junkie and noticed a six meter
RTTY spot yesterday. The 1208 should be here on Tuesday.

Dick AA5VU


The TT I had had a very hot receiver. I had the marage amplifier with the
gasfet preamp and when I turned on the preamp I could not tell any
differance in the weak signals. The S-meter came up but the noise came up
with the signal. I could get the same effect in the audio just by turning
up the volume on the receiver.
On transmitt, 10 watts or so is still 10 watts. Just a little too low for
me on 6 meters. With many of the newer rigs having 100 watts on 6 I think
that is the power level to shoot for.

For what is it , the transverter does a very fine job.





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