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Old October 3rd 05, 09:12 PM
Ari Silversteinn
 
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Do we have to blanket or only blanket each locale, that is, the
broadcasting stations of each locale?

Not only will we miss those no AM/FM listeners, we will miss those that
don't have their radios on. An aggressive, road sign campaign is planned
something like " Turn On Your Radio, It Could Save Your Life" type of thing
near each incident site.


On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 12:58:40 -0400, J. Teske wrote:

While Florida may have laws to this effect, in fact they are
unenforcable because of federal preemption for all radio matters.
Still illegal, just the wrong enforcement entity. A state or locality
cannot for example legislate on TVI matters (though many have tried.)
When they try, the FCC will send a notice to the locals that they are
in charge and will handle enforcement. Unfortunately the FCC is
unwilling to get involved in the matter of private contracts such as
antenna exclusions in housing developments.


Is there a reason that the locals try to overwrite Fed law then?

That said, be aware that when it comes to radio useage in the US, the
FCC is actually NOT the ultimate authority. They are responsible only
for those frequencies which a military controlled panel has ceded to
the FCC for administrative purposes. I can't remember the name right
off hand, but during my federal career, I had to work with them and we
actually were able to override an FCC allocation because it interfered
with a military application. While the FCC played ball with the DOD
outfit I worked for, the ultimate beneficiary of that allocation (a TV
station) sued and the matter wound up in Federal Court. The court
reaffirmed the DOD's ultimate sovreignity in this matter. It
ultimately got resolved by some allocation juggling when a combination
of the Court, The FCC and the DOD gave the plaintiff some "religion."

W3JT


Excellent point, in my research I saw this handoff or spectrum management
authority of the DoD and it makes sense. This is a serious, additional
consideration and is all the more reason to get the DHS' blessings.

Thanks.
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Old October 3rd 05, 11:55 PM
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Ari Silversteinn wrote:

Do we have to blanket or only blanket each locale, that is, the
broadcasting stations of each locale?

Not only will we miss those no AM/FM listeners, we will miss those that
don't have their radios on. An aggressive, road sign campaign is planned
something like " Turn On Your Radio, It Could Save Your Life" type of thing
near each incident site.



On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 12:58:40 -0400, J. Teske wrote:


While Florida may have laws to this effect, in fact they are
unenforcable because of federal preemption for all radio matters.
Still illegal, just the wrong enforcement entity. A state or locality
cannot for example legislate on TVI matters (though many have tried.)
When they try, the FCC will send a notice to the locals that they are
in charge and will handle enforcement. Unfortunately the FCC is
unwilling to get involved in the matter of private contracts such as
antenna exclusions in housing developments.



Is there a reason that the locals try to overwrite Fed law then?


That said, be aware that when it comes to radio useage in the US, the
FCC is actually NOT the ultimate authority. They are responsible only
for those frequencies which a military controlled panel has ceded to
the FCC for administrative purposes. I can't remember the name right
off hand, but during my federal career, I had to work with them and we
actually were able to override an FCC allocation because it interfered
with a military application. While the FCC played ball with the DOD
outfit I worked for, the ultimate beneficiary of that allocation (a TV
station) sued and the matter wound up in Federal Court. The court
reaffirmed the DOD's ultimate sovreignity in this matter. It
ultimately got resolved by some allocation juggling when a combination
of the Court, The FCC and the DOD gave the plaintiff some "religion."

W3JT



Excellent point, in my research I saw this handoff or spectrum management
authority of the DoD and it makes sense. This is a serious, additional
consideration and is all the more reason to get the DHS' blessings.

Thanks.

Actually the DOD does not have any authority over radio spectrum. There
are two federal agencies that do. One is the FCC, which we all know and
love, the other is NTIA, the National Telecomunications Information
Agency. NITA controls all federal radio frequencies. Since the DOD is a
Federal Agency their frequencies are controled by NTIA the same as the
FBI, CIA Secret Service, Dept of Homeland Security and any other federal
alphabet soup agency.

Dave N
a FCC and a NTIA user
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Old October 4th 05, 04:33 PM
Ari Silversteinn
 
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Excellent point, in my research I saw this handoff or spectrum management
authority of the DoD and it makes sense. This is a serious, additional
consideration and is all the more reason to get the DHS' blessings.

Thanks.


On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:55:13 -0500, David G. Nagel wrote:

Actually the DOD does not have any authority over radio spectrum. There
are two federal agencies that do. One is the FCC, which we all know and
love, the other is NTIA, the National Telecomunications Information
Agency. NITA controls all federal radio frequencies. Since the DOD is a
Federal Agency their frequencies are controled by NTIA the same as the
FBI, CIA Secret Service, Dept of Homeland Security and any other federal
alphabet soup agency.

Dave N
a FCC and a NTIA user


Know of the NTIA but I believe that what is the reality is that the mil
gets first dibs on frequencies, then hands off the rest and in a state of
national emerg, they can pretty much takeover the airwaves.
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