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Old October 8th 05, 03:08 PM
Ralph Mowery
 
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Planning on putting up my own tower and I need a safety harness/working belt
of my own. I have used some on other projects so I have an idea of what I
want, just need a few web sights/brand names to look for. I don't need a
super heavy duty one to work in all day,every day, but one to use two or
three times a year.


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Old October 8th 05, 03:33 PM
Wes Stewart
 
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On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 14:08:00 GMT, "Ralph Mowery"
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Planning on putting up my own tower and I need a safety harness/working belt
of my own. I have used some on other projects so I have an idea of what I
want, just need a few web sights/brand names to look for. I don't need a
super heavy duty one to work in all day,every day, but one to use two or
three times a year.


Because your life is going to depend on this, why would you skimp on
it?

Mine is a Miller with chest, back and waist D-rings. Something like
this:

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/pro...763453&ccitem=

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Old October 8th 05, 04:01 PM
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On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 14:08:00 GMT, "Ralph Mowery"
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Planning on putting up my own tower and I need a safety harness/working belt
of my own. I have used some on other projects so I have an idea of what I
want, just need a few web sights/brand names to look for. I don't need a
super heavy duty one to work in all day,every day, but one to use two or
three times a year.


the Texas Towers website had some safety gear, last time I looked

bob
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Old October 8th 05, 04:31 PM
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want, just need a few web sights/brand names to look for. I don't need a
super heavy duty one to work in all day,every day, but one to use two or
three times a year.


Because your life is going to depend on this, why would you skimp on
it?

Mine is a Miller with chest, back and waist D-rings. Something like
this:


http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/pro...763453&ccitem=

Thanks for the URL. I did not mean I wanted to skimp on the quality or
safety. I spent about half a day several years ago in a demonstration at
work on safety harnesses. They were for fall protection only and not for
working in where you want support and both hands free like you would on a
tower. I just ment that I will only use it for a short period of time and
not very many times per year. What I would be skimping on would be heavy
padding and comfort. Sort of like you can sit on a wooden chair for a short
period of time but if you had to sit all day every day you would want to
spend lots more and get a good padded chair.


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Old October 8th 05, 05:30 PM
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On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 15:31:51 GMT, "Ralph Mowery"
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want, just need a few web sights/brand names to look for. I don't need a
super heavy duty one to work in all day,every day, but one to use two or
three times a year.


Because your life is going to depend on this, why would you skimp on
it?

Mine is a Miller with chest, back and waist D-rings. Something like
this:


http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/pro...763453&ccitem=

Thanks for the URL. I did not mean I wanted to skimp on the quality or
safety. I spent about half a day several years ago in a demonstration at
work on safety harnesses. They were for fall protection only and not for
working in where you want support and both hands free like you would on a
tower. I just ment that I will only use it for a short period of time and
not very many times per year. What I would be skimping on would be heavy
padding and comfort. Sort of like you can sit on a wooden chair for a short
period of time but if you had to sit all day every day you would want to
spend lots more and get a good padded chair.


Understood. The one that I liked to has side D-rings so you can use
it similar to a lineman's belt. I confess to near terror when I'm
first on the tower, which partially subsides after a while. I use
both a belt and suspenders approach with a safety rope and carbiner
clipped to the chest ring and the tower while ascending or descending
and a standard belt to the waist rings for two-hand work.

There is another safety issue that you can read about he

http://www.cdc.gov/elcosh/docs/d0500...8/d000568.html

I live in a semi-rural area with a fire department station about three
miles away, but with a small staff. I sent a copy of this paper to
them with some remarks that I did climb on occassion and if they had
to rescue me, they should be aware of these issues. A paramedic
called me and told me that this was all very interesting, but they
wouldn't get to me in time to save me anyway, so not to worry :-).




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Old October 8th 05, 05:34 PM
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Understood. The one that I liked to has side D-rings so you can use
it similar to a lineman's belt.


That should read, "...I linked to..."
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Old October 8th 05, 06:17 PM
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Understood. The one that I liked to has side D-rings so you can use
it similar to a lineman's belt. I confess to near terror when I'm
first on the tower, which partially subsides after a while. I use
both a belt and suspenders approach with a safety rope and carbiner
clipped to the chest ring and the tower while ascending or descending
and a standard belt to the waist rings for two-hand work.

There is another safety issue that you can read about he

http://www.cdc.gov/elcosh/docs/d0500...8/d000568.html

I live in a semi-rural area with a fire department station about three
miles away, but with a small staff. I sent a copy of this paper to
them with some remarks that I did climb on occassion and if they had
to rescue me, they should be aware of these issues. A paramedic
called me and told me that this was all very interesting, but they
wouldn't get to me in time to save me anyway, so not to worry :-).


At work we have a short meeting every morning and I did a talk on this very
issue about 6 months ago. I did see where some company was making some
straps you could lower and stand on the straps if you did get hung up in the
air. We don't do much climbing but anything over 6 feet off the floor that
is not an aproved structure we have to wear a safety harness. I don't do
that much but do wear one about once a month. Even going up a ladder where
your feet are over 6 feet off the floor we have to wear the harness.

What I think I was really fishing for was more of a working/positioning
harness and what the hams that have towers are using. Maybe a double duty
one that is mainly a working harness like a linesman belt but the full
harness to also act as a safety harness. The full body ones we have at work
are just for safety and do not have the D rings at the sides near the hips
where you can put a working belt.



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Old October 8th 05, 07:56 PM
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"Ralph Mowery" wrote in message
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Planning on putting up my own tower and I need a safety harness/working
belt
of my own. I have used some on other projects so I have an idea of what
I
want, just need a few web sights/brand names to look for. I don't need a
super heavy duty one to work in all day,every day, but one to use two or
three times a year.


Some utility workers use gear from PETZL.
As far as I know, you can buy it in any REI.


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Old October 8th 05, 10:15 PM
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On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 14:08:00 GMT, "Ralph Mowery"
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Planning on putting up my own tower and I need a safety harness/working belt
of my own. I have used some on other projects so I have an idea of what I
want, just need a few web sights/brand names to look for. I don't need a
super heavy duty one to work in all day,every day, but one to use two or
three times a year.


Will you be working alone? Who might rescue you, and how long might it
take?

If you plan on "hanging around", plan to be comfortable. Adequate
width of leg straps in case you are sitting for a bit, clearance for
the family jewels (assuming you are male, adequate width in the back
to be comfortable leaning back on a pole strap.

In my experience, lightweight harness are strong enough for the job,
they just aren't comfortable. They are for fall arresting, instant
rescue. What is suitable for hauling a plumber out of a sewer might
not be comfortable on a tower for hours (even once a year).

For pole straps, my preference is for adjustable ones that allow you
to set a convenient position for working to minimise fatigue from
using an arm to hang on. Pole straps are not fall arrestors, if you
want a fall arrestor, you also need something like a shock absorbing
lanyard.

Owen
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