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On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:53:08 -0700, Richard Clark
wrote: Owen, To respond to your last question: Has anyone experimental evidence to the contrary? is consistently NO. Your own time at the bench has already drained the pool of ability in that regard. Your only expectation ever after having bellied up to the bench is to watch your work being gummed to death. I fully expected someone to object, not only to object, but to do so without any original experimental evidence and to devalue the experiment that I did so that some readers who do not have even a meager understanding of transmission line theory fall to being convinced by whoever is most tenacious is defending their position. However, for completeness' sake, and as no one here really understands what accuracy is about anyway, there is one factor to be considered. The numbers offered verge on the limit of the Bird's ability to resolve a power anyway. There is a built in probability of ±5W of error from the get-go, and any snake oil salesman can craft an argument leveraging that error to prove anything. We have seen that ±5W error in the form of an argument that uses both + and - (not simply one or the other) to please a theory. Owen, the same experiment with a deliberate mismatch of 3:1 would be just as effective at busting the myth AND providing data that overwhelmed the inherent meter inaccuracy. Indeed, and I considered a number of other experiments that did so, but this one was based on components at hand, and should have been easily understood by a person with the most basic understanding of transmission line theory. It was important to surround the Bird with line different to 50 ohms. I expect the argument to twist an turn, to focus on everything but the assertions that: - there should be approximately a 50+j0 Z presented to the load side terminals of the Bird Thruline (ie the ratio of V/I is 50+j0 where V is the net or forward and reflected voltages, and I is the net of forward and reflected currents); - the Bird Thruline is a 120mm section of 50 ohm transmission line; - in the region of the Bird Thruline sampler element, the ratio of V/I is approximately 50+j0; and that the observed Bird 43 readings were reasonably consistent with those assertions. The arguments that knowing that the Bird measurements are valid at the point of measurement is of little value are unrelated to the issue and a diversionary tactic, but wrong nevertheless. I won't add to the diversion to identify them. I will extract the essence of the analysis and write a separate web page on it that may in the longer term assist others in their development, go being "gummed to death" doesn't totally devalue the information behind the case, and it might just be the cost of exposing the proposition to review. Thank you for your support. Owen PS: I am planning my next mythbusters (oh no! I hear...) Myth: SWR meters measure SWR. Now this is not to bag SWR meters, I think that they are very useful instruments, but they have limitations, and the greatest problem is not the meters, but probably the knowledge base of those (ab)using them. -- |
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