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Hi Richard
Thank you for your answer. You are quite right Richard, this is the great postulate of Bohr, but from: physics.indiana.edu/~sg/p641/chap2.ps I have extracted this paragraph (rememember that I did study from books in spanish, so I had to search the web to find a suitable english references.) "...Some physicists of the time did not at first believe in Rutherford's model of the atom because, classically, such a model is unstable. The argument is as follows: Electrons in orbits around a nucleus undergo acceleration. But accelerating charged particles emit electromagnetic radiation, losing energy. Therefore, electrons orbiting a nucleus should lose energy and spiral into nucleus. Then in 1913 Bohr solved the problem by simply postulating that electrons move around the nucleus in certain stationary orbits without emitting radiation. According to Bohr¡s model electrons emit radiation as photons only when making a transition from one stationary orbit with a higher energy to another stationary orbit with a lower energy." Bohr's postulate would not invalidate the postulate of the classic electromagnetism that a accelerated charge irradiates energy in classical conditions. Their postulate refers to an electron in an atomic orbital, a typical quantum situation, the electrons in a circular wire would be being part of a classic macroscopic system, (I think). In such a case, would not emit energy, according to that pointed out in the cited Indiana's university text ? I can think a more elaborated example of Direct Current to avoid derived issues of the electronic movement in a complicated crystalline structu An electron (or current of electrons) inside a magnetic field in the vacuum, just as in a cyclotron... Would it be rightfully an Direct Current?. Does it fulfill the postulates of the classic physics? Does it irradiate electromagnetic energy? For these reasons, I think that DC irradiates electromagnetic energy (a very, very, very little quantity, of course. This ponderings rises in my mind from a friend's question about an eternal current in a superconductor ring. What do you think about? Thank you very much for your corrections to my translations... Miguel Ghezzi (LU 6ETJ) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hola Richard. Gracias por tu respuesta. Tienes razon Richard, ese es el gran postulado de Bohr, pero de: physics.indiana.edu/~sg/p641/chap2.ps Extraje este parrafo (recuerda que yo estudie de libros en espaniol de manera que tuve que buscar en la web para encontrar referencias adecuadas en ingles). [Original english text not translated...] El postulado de Bohr no invalidaría los postulados del electromagnetismo clasico que una carga acelereada irradia energia en condiciones clasicas. su postulado se refiere a un electron en un orbital atomico, una típica situacion cuantica. Los electrones en un conductor circular estarían formando parte de un sistema macroscopico clasico, creo. En tal caso, no emitirian energia de acuerdo a lo senialado en el texto de la Universidad de Indiana citado? Puedo pensar en un ejemplo mas elaborado de corriente continua para evitar las cuestiones derivadas del movimiento electronico en una complicada estructura cristalina: Un electron (o corriente de electrones) dentro de un campo magnetico en el vacio, como en un ciclotron. Sería legitimamente una corriente conínua? Cumple con los postulados de la fisica clasica? Irradia energia electromagnetica? Por estas razones creo que una CC irradia energia electromagnetica (una muy, muy, muy pequenia cantidad, por supuesto). Estas cavilaciones surgen en mi mente a partir de la pregunta de un amigo acerca de una corriente eterna en un anillo superconductor. Que piensas? Miguel Ghezzi (LU 6ETJ) |
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