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Old November 18th 05, 01:17 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 19:45:03 GMT, wrote:

Wes Stewart wrote:
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 18:40:01 GMT,
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clvrmnky wrote:
On 17/11/2005 12:30 PM, John, N9JG wrote:
Great picture. What happens when the guy buys gas and drives under the
overhang at the filling station?

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It's hard to tell from the photo, but it looks like it can be adjusted
to lay flat. Whether or not this can be done in a convenient manner is
another thing, I guess.

For only 20 Euros he'll tell you how to build one and all your questions
will be answered.


I can make a better offer. For only $20 US, I will tell you how to
build a reduced size bridge that is only 10% of the length of what is
needed to span the river, but it will work just as well. Promise!


Nah, I need a warf (wharf) for my beachfront property in Arizona though.


This is your lucky day, I'm in Arizona and am an expert on those too.
Hurry, when W6 has "The Big One", there will be a rush.

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Old November 18th 05, 05:12 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
 
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Well, I don't care who you are, at least once any normal person is
going to
forget and drive right up to the pump without remembering to first lower or
remove the antenna.


That antenna is a stunted runt compared to mine.
His is 1.5 m tall. Mine is 3.3 m tall in the driving
mode, 4.2 m tall in the parked mode. On mine, the
base of the antenna is on the truck cab at about
64 inches from ground. Even in the shorter driving
mode, my antenna is over 16 ft tall to the tip.
Of course, the antenna is flexible, and the stinger
is *very* flexible, and can take most any whack.
You might forget at the gas station. Once...:/
I don't forget. I use a quick connect, and if I drive
under something, I take it off, and lay it on the roof until
I drive through.
And yes, my antenna would kick his antenna's butt too
I bet. On 80m, it would probably be ugly. I note he uses
the common "gimmick" antenna sales pitches.
If in doubt, always compare the prospective wonder toy
with other fairly useless wonder toys.
And then omit to state the ground radial
conditions, etc, etc... Of course most mobiles
beat lame ground mounted verticals. This is normal.
My mobile beats my full size dipole at 42 ft on paths
over 800 miles or so. Again, fairly normal.
He says that antenna is the most efficient
that can be built for the size. I don't believe that by just
looking at it. He wants money to show the plans.
Hummmmm...... :/ Sorry. No sale.
Looks like a gimmick stick designed to
lure cashflow from the gullable. .
MK

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Old November 18th 05, 05:27 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
 
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Or is this antenna story just a way to earn some money? You have to
send the
guy at least 20 Euros (approx 20 USD) in order to receive (hopefully)
the
construtional details in March 2006...

LOL. There are plenty of gullable suckers in the world.
Just watch. He'll have a whole boatload of them rounded
up after a while. All delivering *glowing* reports of the new
"technology". Same as the other gimmick antennas floating
around. He seems to be in the same part of the world as
another leading promoter of small gimmickry. You remember
those short ugly useless thangs that relied on feedline
current to operate? Yep, this thing is shorty's bigger bro.
Ready to rule the world of gimmick radiators.
Yeaaa hawwww! I'll be dumping my conventional antennas
at O-clock....:/ Of course, with the lack of free info, you
can't tell if it's a fat helical whip, oversized straight radiator
or what. Of course, this is all by design. You can't make
any money if you come right out and describe what it is,
like most normal people would do. I wonder if these plans
come with a money back warranty if one is not impressed
with the design?
MK

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Old November 19th 05, 02:37 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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ups.com...
Well, I don't care who you are, at least once any normal person is
going to
forget and drive right up to the pump without remembering to first lower

or
remove the antenna.


That antenna is a stunted runt compared to mine.
His is 1.5 m tall. Mine is 3.3 m tall in the driving
mode, 4.2 m tall in the parked mode. On mine, the
base of the antenna is on the truck cab at about
64 inches from ground. Even in the shorter driving
mode, my antenna is over 16 ft tall to the tip.


Got a link to a picture of yours? I'd like to see it.

I was running a Master Mobile antenna, about 8 feet long, and the base
at 9 feet off the ground for a while. You have to know your routes pretty
well to do that! G

7 3
Earl
KD5XB/18Whl
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Earl Needham
Clovis, New Mexico USA


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CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be !






Sorry Felix, but Isaac Asimov's built-in doubter kicks-in right-away here.





...."I decided to hand out this guide free to the contributers of this
project...."



HUH ? !







"A new, revolutionary design allows the construction


of small HF antennas, which provide the same efficiency


as large antennas."




__same efficiency__ If it sounds too good to be true...



It is larger than the average mobile antenns and, therefore, on the lower
bands where you can't get a full 1/4 wave, it'll do better.





73, Steve, K,9.D;C'I




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Old November 21st 05, 11:21 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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It is larger than the average mobile antenns and, therefore, on the lower
bands where you can't get a full 1/4 wave, it'll do better.





73, Steve, K,9.D;C'I



Looks like his car is a spin off from a trolley. I don't think I'd want
one of those on my car no matter how well it worked.

73 Tom KI3R Belle Vernon PA


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