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Old November 24th 05, 06:25 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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Hi,

I am looking for an explanation of how an antenna receives a signal due
to the E-field of an electromagnetic wave.

I have looked in some books, and can understand transmission, but the
books I have looked in don't explain reception.

I have found an explanation of how the H-field induces a signal in a loop
antenna: a changing magnetic flux will induce a current.

But what about the E-field and a dipole antenna? I guess that the E-field
causes electrons to move in the antenna wire, because in a solid
conductor, electrons will move until the E-field inside the solid is
cancelled out?

I have googled but having difficulty finding a good explanation. Any
pointers?

Thanks & regards,

Paul.

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Old November 24th 05, 06:47 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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"Paul Taylor" wrote in message
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Hi,

I am looking for an explanation of how an antenna receives a signal
due
to the E-field of an electromagnetic wave.

I have looked in some books, and can understand transmission, but

the
books I have looked in don't explain reception.

I have found an explanation of how the H-field induces a signal in a

loop
antenna: a changing magnetic flux will induce a current.

But what about the E-field and a dipole antenna? I guess that the

E-field
causes electrons to move in the antenna wire, because in a solid
conductor, electrons will move until the E-field inside the solid is
cancelled out?

I have googled but having difficulty finding a good explanation.


===================================

It is impossible for an E-field to exist without an H-field.

Therefore, antennas of all sorts receive signals in the same way as a
simple loop. Calculations can begin using either the E-field or the
H-field but they both give the same answer.
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Old November 28th 05, 07:52 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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Reg Edwards wrote:

It is impossible for an E-field to exist without an H-field.


Must have been before electrostatics was invented. :-)

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Old November 29th 05, 04:09 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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Jim Kelley wrote:
Reg Edwards wrote:

It is impossible for an E-field to exist without an H-field.



Must have been before electrostatics was invented. :-)

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How do you make an electrostatic radio wave?
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Tom Donaly, KA6RUH
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Old November 29th 05, 06:01 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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Tom Donaly wrote:
Jim Kelley wrote:

Reg Edwards wrote:

It is impossible for an E-field to exist without an H-field.




Must have been before electrostatics was invented. :-)

ac6xg



How do you make an electrostatic radio wave?
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH


Certainly you're aware that radio waves don't have a monopoly on E
fields, Tom.

73, jk



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Old November 29th 05, 06:17 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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Jim Kelley wrote:
Certainly you're aware that radio waves don't have a monopoly on E
fields, Tom.


But they should have a monopoly on threads in this newsgroup. :-)
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Old November 29th 05, 07:22 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
Michael Coslo
 
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Tom Donaly wrote:
Jim Kelley wrote:

Reg Edwards wrote:

It is impossible for an E-field to exist without an H-field.




Must have been before electrostatics was invented. :-)

ac6xg



How do you make an electrostatic radio wave?



Wave to it first?

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

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Old November 29th 05, 07:01 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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"Jim Kelley" bravely wrote to "All" (28 Nov 05 11:52:53)
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JK From: Jim Kelley
JK Xref: core-easynews rec.radio.amateur.antenna:220506

JK Reg Edwards wrote:

It is impossible for an E-field to exist without an H-field.


JK Must have been before electrostatics was invented. :-)


Yes, but you are changing the topic into static fields. We were
discussing changing electric fields, not statics but dynamics!

A*s*i*m*o*v

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Old November 29th 05, 03:03 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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Asimov wrote:
Yes, but you are changing the topic into static fields. We were
discussing changing electric fields, not statics but dynamics!


When is someone going to come up with a context-free language?
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Old November 29th 05, 06:26 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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Asimov wrote:

"Jim Kelley" bravely wrote to "All" (28 Nov 05 11:52:53)
--- on the heady topic of " Antenna reception theory"

JK From: Jim Kelley
JK Xref: core-easynews rec.radio.amateur.antenna:220506

JK Reg Edwards wrote:

It is impossible for an E-field to exist without an H-field.


JK Must have been before electrostatics was invented. :-)


Yes, but you are changing the topic into static fields. We were
discussing changing electric fields, not statics but dynamics!


But do you agree that it's not impossible for an E field to exist
without an H field?

ac6xg




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