Looking for fiberglass antenna part
 

Short of having a machinist build me some, can anyone advise where I
might be able to buy this part for a home made antenna project....

I need an addapter that is 3/8" x 24 thread on one end, and a 1/2"
tube on the other... to fit over 1/2" fiberglass rod. I can use 3/8" to
5/8" rod diameters to meet this part specs, if necessary.

Stainless steel or brass would be fine.


Ed K7AAT

Looking for fiberglass antenna part
 

Ed wrote:

Short of having a machinist build me some, can anyone advise where I
might be able to buy this part for a home made antenna project....

I need an addapter that is 3/8" x 24 thread on one end, and a 1/2"
tube on the other... to fit over 1/2" fiberglass rod. I can use 3/8" to
5/8" rod diameters to meet this part specs, if necessary.

Stainless steel or brass would be fine.

Ed K7AAT

Buy a long 3/8"x24 bolt, hacksaw off the head, then expoxy some pipe with
1/2" inside diam in over the end. Make sure the part extending into the
pipe is long enough.

Irv VE6BP (Not a machinist, just an idea as to how I'd do it)
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Looking for fiberglass antenna part
 

Buy a long 3/8"x24 bolt, hacksaw off the head, then expoxy some pipe
with 1/2" inside diam in over the end. Make sure the part extending
into the pipe is long enough.

Thanks, Irv. Possibly workable for me, but the threaded end needs good
RF continuity to the 1/2" tube end, which will be soldered to a helical
winding running up the fiberglass rod.


Ed

Looking for fiberglass antenna part
 

Ed wrote:
Thanks, Irv. Possibly workable for me, but the threaded end needs good
RF continuity to the 1/2" tube end, which will be soldered to a helical
winding running up the fiberglass rod.

Connect the helical winding to a 3/8" automotive lug and slip it over
the 3/8" threaded section.
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Looking for fiberglass antenna part
 

Connect the helical winding to a 3/8" automotive lug and slip it over
the 3/8" threaded section.

That will work, Cecil. Especially is I run a nut up on it to tighten on
the lug. Thanks.


Ed

PS: Am still looking for the one that antenna manufacturers use, though.

Looking for fiberglass antenna part
 

Do you ever get to Central Oregon? Or send a drawing with dimensions.
Like how long is the threaded portion? How long is the tube part? If
you can make to Redmond, I will volunteer to make it for you.

Paul, KD7HB

Looking for fiberglass antenna part
 

The ham spirit is still alive and well. Great to know hams are still willing
to lend a hand to a brother ham.

You are to be commended!

wrote in message
ups.com...
Do you ever get to Central Oregon? Or send a drawing with dimensions.
Like how long is the threaded portion? How long is the tube part? If
you can make to Redmond, I will volunteer to make it for you.

Paul, KD7HB

Looking for fiberglass antenna part
 

Do you ever get to Central Oregon? Or send a drawing with dimensions.
Like how long is the threaded portion? How long is the tube part? If
you can make to Redmond, I will volunteer to make it for you.

Paul, KD7HB

Thanks, Paul. Your reply is appreciated, as Fred mentioned. There
actually may be a time next Summer when we might get over there. Sister
in Law lives in Prineville. We were in Redmond for that big RV
convention this past summer, but didn't spend any time looking around
town. I'll keep your callsign/email in case we do get there again this
coming year.

I take it you're a machinist? Maybe, after the Holidays, I'll
contact you by email and discuss this again... I may be able to
email you pictures or drawings of what I'm looking for when I get a
chance, to get your opinion on what I'm looking for..


Ed

Looking for fiberglass antenna part
 

Irv Finkleman wrote:

Ed wrote:

Short of having a machinist build me some, can anyone advise where I
might be able to buy this part for a home made antenna project....

I need an addapter that is 3/8" x 24 thread on one end, and a 1/2"
tube on the other... to fit over 1/2" fiberglass rod. I can use 3/8" to
5/8" rod diameters to meet this part specs, if necessary.

Stainless steel or brass would be fine.

Ed K7AAT


Buy a long 3/8"x24 bolt, hacksaw off the head, then expoxy some pipe with
1/2" inside diam in over the end. Make sure the part extending into the
pipe is long enough.

Irv VE6BP (Not a machinist, just an idea as to how I'd do it)

As a modification to this, since you can stand 1/2 inch thread, how
about using a 1/2 inch bolt and brazing or silver soldering some 1/2
inch ID tube over it? Not only will this be easier than trying to
center the 3/8 and potentially stronger than epoxy, but it would keep
that RF continuity.

This is the sort of part that's expensive to turn out as a one-off part,
but very easy to manufacture on an NC lathe -- even a cam-driven
automatic screw machine would handle this with ease. Because of this I
suspect that there aren't any on the open market; rather a manufacturer
would just send drawings to their favorite screw machine place to have
them made 10000 at a time.

It's also the sort of part that's fun to make in limited quantity -- it
looks pretty, you get to practice your threading, yet its not too
critical. So you might want to take up Paul's offer, perhaps with a
nice drawing. Just don't ask him to make too many.

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

Looking for fiberglass antenna part
 

Good information, (below), thanks. On the issue of availability,
though, I have to wonder why they would NOT be available for sale?
Obviously, certain manufacturers of the multitude of ham-stick type
antennas use them. There must be a large scale source, somewhere!

Ed




As a modification to this, since you can stand 1/2 inch thread, how
about using a 1/2 inch bolt and brazing or silver soldering some 1/2
inch ID tube over it? Not only will this be easier than trying to
center the 3/8 and potentially stronger than epoxy, but it would keep
that RF continuity.

This is the sort of part that's expensive to turn out as a one-off
part, but very easy to manufacture on an NC lathe -- even a cam-driven
automatic screw machine would handle this with ease. Because of this
I suspect that there aren't any on the open market; rather a
manufacturer would just send drawings to their favorite screw machine
place to have them made 10000 at a time.

It's also the sort of part that's fun to make in limited quantity --
it looks pretty, you get to practice your threading, yet its not too
critical. So you might want to take up Paul's offer, perhaps with a
nice drawing. Just don't ask him to make too many.

Looking for fiberglass antenna part
 

Ed wrote:
(top posting fixed)


As a modification to this, since you can stand 1/2 inch thread, how
about using a 1/2 inch bolt and brazing or silver soldering some 1/2
inch ID tube over it? Not only will this be easier than trying to
center the 3/8 and potentially stronger than epoxy, but it would keep
that RF continuity.

This is the sort of part that's expensive to turn out as a one-off
part, but very easy to manufacture on an NC lathe -- even a cam-driven
automatic screw machine would handle this with ease. Because of this
I suspect that there aren't any on the open market; rather a
manufacturer would just send drawings to their favorite screw machine
place to have them made 10000 at a time.

It's also the sort of part that's fun to make in limited quantity --
it looks pretty, you get to practice your threading, yet its not too
critical. So you might want to take up Paul's offer, perhaps with a
nice drawing. Just don't ask him to make too many.



Good information, (below), thanks. On the issue of availability,
though, I have to wonder why they would NOT be available for sale?
Obviously, certain manufacturers of the multitude of ham-stick type
antennas use them. There must be a large scale source, somewhere!

Ed

Actually my point was that this is exactly the sort of market where
there _won't_ be a large-scale source, at least not an open one. It's a
market dominated by a few vertically integrated manufacturers, who have
no vested interest in commonality of parts and _do_ get advantages from
having design control over the parts they get. If nothing else it make
it much more expensive for the guy down the road to start up his own
operation.

Consider that nuts and bolts were not truly standardized until around
100 years ago. Before (AFAIK) then manufacturers would specify by size,
but there were no commonly used standards until the SAE got together and
made it happen. As a result nuts and bolts became commodity items and
the price went down.

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

Looking for fiberglass antenna part
 

Hi, Ed.
No, I am not a "machinist". Just hobby that turned into a very useful
way to make/build/repair things.

I was a retired computer programmer/systems analyst/data communications
consultant. After my partners and I sold the business in Kirkland, WA,
my wife and I moved to dry/sunny Central Oregon. Was 4° this morning.
8-10" snow on ground for 2+ weeks. Maybe Puget Sound wasn't so bad
after all!

After 1 1/2 years, my wife thought I should find a job. Noting for a
guy 60 years old. Saw an ad for a partner in an elctronic assembly
business here in Redmond. Bought 45% of the business in 2000. We had
one customer. Have built it to $750,000 in sales this year and 7
employees. Partner died a year ago, and the widow gave me the rest of
the company in exchange for paying off a note. Hope to do a million
next year!

Without the metalworking hobby experience we would have spent many
thousands of dollars on tools, tooling and equipment.

I have been working on getting a mobile HF set-up in my pickup truck.
Working on mobile mounts for antennas since last summer. Still no
decision on how to mount.

So, Ed, can we make contact on 75 meters or 160, or where? We can
discuss this some more on the air!

Paul, KD7HB

Looking for fiberglass antenna part
 

Actually my point was that this is exactly the sort of market where
there _won't_ be a large-scale source, at least not an open one. It's
a
market dominated by a few vertically integrated manufacturers, who have
no vested interest in commonality of parts and _do_ get advantages from
having design control over the parts they get. If nothing else it make
it much more expensive for the guy down the road to start up his own
operation.

Consider that nuts and bolts were not truly standardized until around
100 years ago. Before (AFAIK) then manufacturers would specify by
size,
but there were no commonly used standards until the SAE got together
and
made it happen. As a result nuts and bolts became commodity items and
the price went down.



Understand what you are saying, but this item I am describing is
pretty much standardized, near as I can tell. Soooo many mobile antenna
manufacturers, including CB, use it on their 1/2" fiberglass rod based
antennas, that I am pretty sure there must be a sizable source,
somewhere.


Ed

Looking for fiberglass antenna part
 

....[snip]....
I have been working on getting a mobile HF set-up in my pickup truck.
Working on mobile mounts for antennas since last summer. Still no
decision on how to mount.

I once mounted a 7-foot-long plain ol' 2x4 on the outside of my pick-up
truck's bed on the driver's side with 2-3 angle brackets. This gave me
a nice platform for mounting all sorts of whip antennas using no more
than an electric drill, some screws & bolts, and a big screwdriver. At
one time I had three hamsticks (for three different bands) mounted at
the same time, with coax to a selector switch inside next to the radio.
Probably wouldn't have worked too well if/when the 2x4 got wet, but for
experimentation it was just fine.

Later I mounted a PAIR of hamsticks (for the same band) end-to-end (to
make a horizontal dipole pointing fore and aft) on a wooden post which
stuck up about two feet above the cab. Worked like a charm! (Think
NVIS). Until I drove into the garage and the forward-pointing whip
speared the loop in the garage-door pull-down loop!
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