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In this day and age, there is only one meter on or associated with a
transmitter. It is the misnamed SWR meter. Consequently and unavoidably, with nothing else left to talk about, the importance attached to SWR becomes exaggerated. It is perfectly natural, for CB-ers and professional engineers alike, to imagine the indicated SWR applies to the one and only transmission line in the system. That is along the line from the transmitter/tuner to the antenna. But the meter does not indicate SWR on any line. It merely indicates whether or not the load on the transmitter is 50 ohms. Which is nice to know. But, nevertheless, you have been fooled! After half a century of being unwittingly misled, it is admittedly difficult to have to suddenly switch one's ideas about what is thought to be an important subject. Carry on arguing! ---- Reg. |
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Reg Edwards wrote:
. . . But the meter does not indicate SWR on any line. It merely indicates whether or not the load on the transmitter is 50 ohms. Which is nice to know. But, nevertheless, you have been fooled! . . . Let's not be fooled by these contrived misstatements. An SWR meter tells us the SWR on a transmission line to which it's connected, providing that the line and meter impedances are the same. This can easily be verified with a couple of simple experiments. So it does indeed indicate the SWR on a line. It will, of course, still give a reading under other conditions, such as when the line and meter Z0 are different or when there's no line at all, in which cases it means only what Reg says(*). But I'm afraid that the effort to leave a legacy of a new TLA (three letter acronym) for SWR meters is causing Reg to adopt an increasingly distorted view of what SWR meters can and can't indicate. (*) Any kind of test equipment can be misused or the results misinterpreted. For example, anyone using a 1000 ohm/volt voltmeter to read voltage in a high-impedance circuit will not see the voltage which is there when the meter is disconnected. Likewise, measuring high frequency waveforms with a 10 pF scope probe, even at moderate impedances. The list is endless. But this doesn't justify renaming each of those pieces of test equipment to accommodate the most naive user. Roy Lewallen, W7EL |
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The so-called SWR meter is just a resistance (not impedance) bridge. The bridge is at balance and indicates SWR = 1:1 when a resistance of precisely 50 ohms is connected to its output terminals. It is arranged within the meter that this 50-ohm resistance, or whatever is connected to the output terminals, is the transmitter load. With the meter in its normal location, the load is the input impedance of the transmission line to the antenna. So when the input impedance of the line, as determined by Zo of the line and the antenna input impedance, is 50 ohms then the meter indicates SWR = 1:1 regardless of Zo, line length and antenna impedance. As Roy says, in the special case of line Zo being precisely 50 ohms it so happens that the meter will correctly indicate SWR along the line. For any other value of line Zo the meter will indicate varying degrees of nonsense. At HF, line Zo is frequently anywhere between 50 and 600 ohms and a tuner is used to transform line input impedance, either up or down, to the 50 ohms required by the transmitter. But Zo is not affected and the SWR meter indications remain in error. Whatever Zo and antenna impedance may be, the meter always indicates whether or not the transmitter is correctly loaded with a resistive 50 ohms. Note that the circuit operates independently of transmitter internal impedance whatever that may be. ---- Reg. |
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If the meter is misapplied, it's misapplied. If my transmitter is
designed to operate optimally into a 300 ohm load and I use an "SWR" meter calibrated to 50 ohms, it's not going to do any better job indicating proper transmitter matching than indicating SWR on a 300 ohm line. I will continue happily to call my SWR meter an SWR meter, and know enough about what's going on inside it to apply it appropriately--whether it's to the task of giving me an indication of SWR on a transmission line or the task of indicating proper loading on a source. I suppose there are many who will continue to happily call them SWR meters and NOT understand how to properly apply them. I'd much rather work on educating them to understand how the meter works and how to apply it properly than to insist they call it by some other name. I've been at the task since B.R.E. But of course, not everyone sees it that way. Cheers--and Merry Christmas, Tom |
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