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The Eternal Squire December 20th 05 06:55 AM

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All,

I'm finally back on the air! Thanks for the antenna help, everyone. I
found on the net a 30m collapsible fiberglass pole. I applied copper
tape to one side as the radiator. I used layers of duct tape to
reinforce every joint. I have the ground side tied to the ground rod
of the trailer electrical system. No counterpoise yet. I worked a few
stations tonight on 40m CW.

I am grateful for all the help, even to those who thought I wasn't
listening at first.

The Eternal Squire


Ian White GM3SEK December 20th 05 07:49 AM

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The Eternal Squire wrote:
All,

I'm finally back on the air! Thanks for the antenna help, everyone. I
found on the net a 30m collapsible fiberglass pole. I applied copper
tape to one side as the radiator. I used layers of duct tape to
reinforce every joint. I have the ground side tied to the ground rod
of the trailer electrical system. No counterpoise yet. I worked a few
stations tonight on 40m CW.

Glad to hear it - you're on the way now.

Next, put an ATU at the bottom of the pole and give yourself some more
bands. It doesn't have to be an auto-ATU - a small headband flashlight
is much better value.

Then get some more wire on the ground, and you'll be surprised how 40
and even 80m perk up.

I am grateful for all the help, even to those who thought I wasn't
listening at first.


Your sense of what can and can't be done has been spun completely
around, first by the wind and then (probably less gently) by this NG.
You seem to have survived the experience rather well.


--
73 from Ian GM3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB)
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek

Irv Finkleman December 20th 05 01:20 PM

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The Eternal Squire wrote:

All,

I'm finally back on the air! Thanks for the antenna help, everyone. I
found on the net a 30m collapsible fiberglass pole. I applied copper
tape to one side as the radiator. I used layers of duct tape to
reinforce every joint. I have the ground side tied to the ground rod
of the trailer electrical system. No counterpoise yet. I worked a few
stations tonight on 40m CW.

I am grateful for all the help, even to those who thought I wasn't
listening at first.

The Eternal Squire


My experience with duct tape is that it doesn't hold up well due
to weathering. I'm not sure if it was the cold, the sun, or what, but
it gradually let go and fell apart. I have no recommendations for
a substitute but someone on the group might.

Irv VE6BP
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John Ferrell December 20th 05 01:51 PM

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On 19 Dec 2005 22:55:39 -0800, "The Eternal Squire"
wrote:

All,

I'm finally back on the air! Thanks for the antenna help, everyone. I
found on the net a 30m collapsible fiberglass pole. I applied copper
tape to one side as the radiator. I used layers of duct tape to
reinforce every joint. I have the ground side tied to the ground rod
of the trailer electrical system. No counterpoise yet. I worked a few
stations tonight on 40m CW.

I am grateful for all the help, even to those who thought I wasn't
listening at first.

The Eternal Squire

I have to ask:
Do you really mean 30 feet rather than 30 meters?
John Ferrell W8CCW

Cecil Moore December 20th 05 01:58 PM

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Irv Finkleman wrote:
My experience with duct tape is that it doesn't hold up well due
to weathering. I'm not sure if it was the cold, the sun, or what, but
it gradually let go and fell apart. I have no recommendations for
a substitute but someone on the group might.


Automotive rated duct tape is of a higher quality than air-conditioning
duct tape - also more expensive. A coating of clear Krylon also helps.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

The Eternal Squire December 21st 05 03:43 AM

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yep you are right.... 10m == 30 feet.

The Eternal Squire


The Eternal Squire December 22nd 05 02:23 AM

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Thanks. Just laid down 2 quarter wave counterpoises for 40m, and
another quarter wave counterpoise for 20m. I also connected the ground
system to an outside storage shed but who knows that would add. The
ground system had already been connected to the electrical system
ground ground, and thereby the house wiring.

Noise floor seems to be extremely high for 40 m in the afternoons and
evenings, is this common?

The Eternal Squire


Reg Edwards December 22nd 05 04:43 AM

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The French should be given full credit for inventing the unit of
length by correctly spelling it, the "METRE".

Also, this avoids confusion with the frequently used word "METER", a
measuring instrument, when they are both mentioned in the same
sentence.
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Roy Lewallen December 22nd 05 06:14 AM

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Reg Edwards wrote:
The French should be given full credit for inventing the unit of
length by correctly spelling it, the "METRE".

Also, this avoids confusion with the frequently used word "METER", a
measuring instrument, when they are both mentioned in the same
sentence.


I'm so glad to hear you're committed to correctness and against
confusion. Perhaps you can direct some of your efforts toward your
countrymen - the U.K. is the only place I've been where "m" is used as
an abbreviation for both metres and miles.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Roy Lewallen December 22nd 05 06:16 AM

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The Eternal Squire wrote:
. . .
Noise floor seems to be extremely high for 40 m in the afternoons and
evenings, is this common?


Atmospheric noise is usually very low on 40 meters during the day.
Sounds like you have some relatively local source of man-made noise.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Owen Duffy December 22nd 05 06:16 AM

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On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 04:43:59 +0000 (UTC), "Reg Edwards"
wrote:


The French should be given full credit for inventing the unit of
length by correctly spelling it, the "METRE".


Reg, I think the US was one of the relatively early signatories to the
metre convention, but reserved the position to spell "metre" as
"meter".

I can't recall when the UK signed the convention, my recollection is
that we in VK signed it much later than both, however we metricated
earlier than the UK, and the US hasn't metricated (metericated???) in
the true sense of the word.

I don't miss the days of rods roods poles perches chains etc, without
mentioning other dimensional units.


Also, this avoids confusion with the frequently used word "METER", a
measuring instrument, when they are both mentioned in the same
sentence.
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Oh well.

Give some people 25.4mm and they will take 16,609.344m! (Lost
something in the translation I suspect!)

Owen
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Amos Keag December 22nd 05 11:56 AM

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Owen Duffy wrote:

SNIPPED




Give some people 25.4mm and they will take 16,609.344m! (Lost
something in the translation I suspect!)

Owen
--


Hmmm ... 16,609.344m = 10 miles does it not??

Not only did it lose something in translation, it lost something in units,

Give some people an inch and they will take a mile grin NOT 10
miles!!!!!!!!!!!


Cecil Moore December 22nd 05 03:11 PM

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Reg Edwards wrote:

The French should be given full credit for inventing the unit of
length by correctly spelling it, the "METRE".

Also, this avoids confusion with the frequently used word "METER", a
measuring instrument, when they are both mentioned in the same
sentence.


The accident investigation crews here have a device that meters
distances. I assume that in the UK, it is calibrated in metres.
Do you guys call that device a "metre meter"?
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73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

The Eternal Squire December 23rd 05 02:47 AM

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Oh, come on....

In engineering literature an SI measurement is generally given as a
number followed by the abbreviated unit in braces: 330 [cm] = 33 [m]
= 3.3 [km]

Sorry for being slipshod and forgetting the braces.

The Eternal Squire

P.S. Why Santa got pulled over: 3E8 [km/s], not just a good idea, its
the LAW!!!!


J. Mc Laughlin December 23rd 05 02:53 AM

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Dear Owen:
As I recall, very early in The Republic's life, the use of the metric
system was made legal.

Rods, chains, links, feet, inches, and degrees are bound to legal
descriptions of land here in The Republic in a manner that is likely to be
permanent. Some land descriptions sound like this:

The east half of the NE quarter of section 24, T16N, R8W. This describes 80
acres in the corner of a specific section (one mile on each side) in the
16th township north of a reference and the eighth west of a reference. An
ideal township is 36 square miles (6 by 6 miles).

Out East, some descriptions reference objects that have not been seen
for a few hundred years. Precision GPS and its required antennas will, with
time and care, change the some properties are described.

73 Mac N8TT

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"Owen Duffy"

snip

Reg, I think the US was one of the relatively early signatories to the
metre convention, but reserved the position to spell "metre" as
"meter".

I can't recall when the UK signed the convention, my recollection is
that we in VK signed it much later than both, however we metricated
earlier than the UK, and the US hasn't metricated (metericated???) in
the true sense of the word.

I don't miss the days of rods roods poles perches chains etc, without
mentioning other dimensional units.

snip
Owen
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Fred W4JLE December 23rd 05 04:08 AM

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I would consider 33[m]=3.3[km] is even more slipshod...

"The Eternal Squire" wrote in message
ups.com...
Oh, come on....

In engineering literature an SI measurement is generally given as a
number followed by the abbreviated unit in braces: 330 [cm] = 33 [m]
= 3.3 [km]

Sorry for being slipshod and forgetting the braces.

The Eternal Squire

P.S. Why Santa got pulled over: 3E8 [km/s], not just a good idea, its
the LAW!!!!




Owen Duffy December 23rd 05 04:40 AM

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On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 06:56:50 -0500, Amos Keag
wrote:

Owen Duffy wrote:

SNIPPED




Give some people 25.4mm and they will take 16,609.344m! (Lost
something in the translation I suspect!)

Owen
--


Hmmm ... 16,609.344m = 10 miles does it not??


No, it is not. The mistake is the repeated 6, it should have been
1,609.344m.

Apologies... Owen
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The Eternal Squire December 23rd 05 04:41 AM

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I'm tired, and my fingers were running away from me.

The Eternal Squire


Owen Duffy December 23rd 05 04:44 AM

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On 22 Dec 2005 18:47:24 -0800, "The Eternal Squire"
wrote:



P.S. Why Santa got pulled over: 3E8 [km/s], not just a good idea, its
the LAW!!!!


Wow, that is 1000 times the speed of light!
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Dave Piggin December 28th 05 01:18 PM

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The accident investigation crews here have a device that meters
distances. I assume that in the UK, it is calibrated in metres.
Do you guys call that device a "metre meter"?


Cecil, We'd call it a
1) Metre measuring device, indicating
a measurement solely in Metre Units
2) distance measurement meter. In
English terms your pronunciation of Metre Meter would
also be grammarmatically incorrect and not good
English, in speaking terms.

Much the same as 1) Tonne, a metric measurement of weight. IE,
a mass equal to 2,205 Lbs.
2) Ton, a unit of weight. IE,
an English Imperial unit equating to 2000Lbs. Also
3) Ton, a unit of weight. IE,
A weight of 2,240 Lbs, equal to 1.016 metric tons, known
as a long Ton.
And you though you were confused Eh!!!!! 73's De Dave LOVL

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Dave Piggin December 28th 05 05:38 PM

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As I replied to Cecils Question on Metres and Meter, 2,000Lbs is an
American equivelant of a Ton, 2,240Lbs is the equivelant of an English
Ton. Who said the French should be given credit? for what? Confusing me
for a start.
We spent hundreds of years fighting to keep them out, then built a
tunnel to let them through. LOL Dave

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