Single wire feed. I was a student (living off of my wife) and used
what I
could get my hands on.
=======================================

A true radio amateur!

Just get a random, bent wire into the air. A single-wire feed helps a
lot. With a modest ground and a simple tuner you have an efficient,
multi-band, go-anywhere antenna system you can be proud of.

Anybody who boasts about his G5RV has never tried anything else.
----
Reg.

On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 22:29:58 +0000 (UTC), "Reg Edwards"
wrote:


Anybody who boasts about his G5RV has never tried anything else.

Sounds like the text for a bumper sticker!

Owen
--

"Reg Edwards" wrote
Single wire feed. I was a student (living off of my wife) and used
what I
could get my hands on.
=======================================

A true radio amateur!

Just get a random, bent wire into the air. A single-wire feed helps a
lot. With a modest ground and a simple tuner you have an efficient,
multi-band, go-anywhere antenna system you can be proud of.

Anybody who boasts about his G5RV has never tried anything else.

Right.....you should hear the bands open up when you launch a kite
antenna. There's nothing like a few hundred feet of random long wire up
in the air. ;-)
WARNING: No one should ever do such a thing for what should be very
obvious safety reasons.

I'm a big fan of cubical quads, but you need allot of room for them.
I'd take one over a yagi any day. I built a two element quad for 10
meters using bamboo fishing poles for the spreaders. The boom was made
from cedar. It lasted about three years before a flying tree limb took
it out. I also made an 8 element quad for 2 meters using 1/2" poplar
dowel rod spreaders and a wooden boom as well. Man was that thing hard
to tune. Weird things happen after the fifth element is added for some
reason. Might explain why most have only 4 elements. ;-) Seriously,
it really kicked ass but the tornadic storm took it out too. I'll not
be making another with that many elements, too fussy but extremely
narrow beam w/incredible back side rejection.

"Anthony Fremont" wrote in news:FZBwf.39022$9e.30720
@tornado.texas.rr.com:


"Reg Edwards" wrote
Single wire feed. I was a student (living off of my wife) and used
what I
could get my hands on.
=======================================

A true radio amateur!

Just get a random, bent wire into the air. A single-wire feed helps a
lot. With a modest ground and a simple tuner you have an efficient,
multi-band, go-anywhere antenna system you can be proud of.

Anybody who boasts about his G5RV has never tried anything else.

Right.....you should hear the bands open up when you launch a kite
antenna. There's nothing like a few hundred feet of random long wire
up
in the air. ;-)
WARNING: No one should ever do such a thing for what should be very
obvious safety reasons.

I'm a big fan of cubical quads, but you need allot of room for them.

I swear OH8OS used to MAKE his own band openings or 15 back in 65 when I
used to work him from VE8ML. He had a huge quad, 15 elements, I think,
pointed right in my direction.


--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667

"Dave Oldridge" wrote in message

I swear OH8OS used to MAKE his own band openings or 15 back in 65 when
I
used to work him from VE8ML. He had a huge quad, 15 elements, I
think,
pointed right in my direction.

You just about can. Even with just two elements on 10, I worked several
contacts from Houston that couldn't hear anyone else in the US. I
really loved that antenna.

Reg Edwards wrote:
Anybody who boasts about his G5RV has never tried anything else.

Reg, I replaced my 130 ft. dipole with a G5RV so I could
experiment with it. Given my modifications, Nobody can tell
it from the 130 ft. dipole so there's no reason to return
to the 130 ft. dipole. My G5RV has an SWR of less than 2:1
on all eight HF bands.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

"Cecil Moore" wrote
My G5RV has an SWR of less than 2:1
on all eight HF bands.
=========================================

The CIA W.M.D. department must have told you that naughty fib.

The SWR on your 380-ohm transmission line to the antenna is umpteen
times greater than that!

Isn't it time you changed the name of your SWR meter?
----
Reg.

Reg Edwards wrote:
"Cecil Moore" wrote
My G5RV has an SWR of less than 2:1
on all eight HF bands.

The SWR on your 380-ohm transmission line to the antenna is umpteen
times greater than that!

I'm not talking about SWR on the series section transformer,
Reg, I'm talking about on the 50 feet of RG-213. And it's
not "umpteen times", rather limited to about ten times.

Isn't it time you changed the name of your SWR meter?

Nope, for a G5RV with the nominal 70 feet of 50 ohm coax,
the SWR meter is indeed reading the SWR on the coax.
Remember, I'm not using a tuner. The coax from the G5RV
goes directly to the transceiver through the SWR meter.
I actually use my SWR meter to display the SWR.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
om...
Reg Edwards wrote:
"Cecil Moore" wrote
My G5RV has an SWR of less than 2:1
on all eight HF bands.

The SWR on your 380-ohm transmission line to the antenna is
umpteen
times greater than that!

I'm not talking about SWR on the series section transformer,
Reg, I'm talking about on the 50 feet of RG-213. And it's
not "umpteen times", rather limited to about ten times.

Isn't it time you changed the name of your SWR meter?

Nope, for a G5RV with the nominal 70 feet of 50 ohm coax,
the SWR meter is indeed reading the SWR on the coax.
Remember, I'm not using a tuner. The coax from the G5RV
goes directly to the transceiver through the SWR meter.
I actually use my SWR meter to display the SWR.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp
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I see you are happy to change names when in a tight corner.

The name "Transmission line" has been conveniently changed to "Series
Section Transformer".

But it still has standing waves on it far higher than what you claim
for all bands. And don't standing waves increase loss on SST's just as
much as they do on transmission lines?

Louis is turning over in his grave - yet again.

But what the heck? A G5RV will work even if you havn't got one.

I once set up an 80 feet dipole without a series section transformer.
Unsurprisingly - it worked. ;o)
----
Reg.

Reg Edwards wrote:
The name "Transmission line" has been conveniently changed to "Series
Section Transformer".

But it still has standing waves on it far higher than what you claim
for all bands. And don't standing waves increase loss on SST's just as
much as they do on transmission lines?

As you know, standing waves increase loss on SST's just as much
as they do on transmission lines *OF THE SAME LENGTH*. For instance,
on 3.8 MHz, that 300 ohm series section transformer on a G5RV has
an SWR of about 20:1 and a line loss of about 0.7 dB, about 12% of
one S-unit. That's a small price to pay for multi-band operation.
And using Wireman #554 (like I do) instead of 300 ohm twinlead will
cut those SST losses down to 0.37 dB, about 6% of an S-unit.

I once set up an 80 feet dipole without a series section transformer.
Unsurprisingly - it worked. ;o)

If you fed it with ladder-line, you fed it with a long series
section transformer. :-)
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp