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Some thoughts inserted in Dan's comments...***
"Dan Andersson" wrote in message ... Thierry wrote: ... My company has installed a Radar Tower for Port survaillence. The tower is about 50 meter height on top of the of a 3 stories building roof and my office building just below the tower on the same level, 20 meter away from the tower. At the same time, the surrounding is my working area ( Jetty Terminal for ships loading and unloading activities ). I can say that I'll be around that area 12 hours a day for another 20 years. My question: Is it safe to work in that area???? Thanks in advance Thierry So, what about Radar then... First, There are two "kind" of RF radiation, non-ionizing and ionizing and effects emanating from very high voltage nearby different materials. *** Perhaps a typo, but the ionizing type is not a kind of RF radiation. Ionizing radiation is nuclear radiation. This radiation is able to strip electrons (and other particles) from atoms. RF does not do this as we use it. It is unfortunate that we use the term "radiation" for both things. In any case, it is not part of the original question. Normally, non-ionising is to be more or less compared to sun light.... *** RF, Light is Electromagnetic radiation and produces, as far as we know and can be proved, Heat. As long as you are not overheating, there should be no harmful effects on you. ... *** Widely agreed, yet feared by many. Now, radar radiation ...sometimes with stupidly high power.... ** Not to the people USING it. If you are standing near a RF radiating radar station, the average energy is what heats you up ... *** Regardless of where/how you receive RF power, it produces a heating effect. Standing in an open field, you are picking up RF from EVERY transmitter within ear-shot (so to speak) and you have RF currents in your body, but of course, the heat generated is infinitesimal. Tests have been done to measure the low, yet measurable actual heating of things such as the human face in the RF field of hand-held radio like power. Some frequencies are really bad for us because different parts of our bodies absorbs different amount of energy on different frequencies. *** The effect is that of heating and the most prominant effect is the heating of the water content in things - us included. Water (H20) absorbs RF best around 900 MHz and again around 2500 MHz. There may be more frequencies, but these are the two used in microwave ovens (900 earlier and 2400 now - I believe). When it does absorbe it ( as opposed to reflecting it, which it may do depending on how good the impedance match is) the water heats. The old (possibly urban myth) story is of the radar techs up at the old Dew Line Early warning radars would stand in fornt of the High power radar antennas to warm up when working outside. The standard joke is that they had small families after that... Let's take a party example... Many key fobs, alarm buttons for car locks etc, operates on 418MHz. It happens to be approximately where a normal head are resonating... Try walking just about out of range for your alarm/lock button for your car, point the key fob against your head and press the unlock key, voila, in most cases, you increase the range of the key fob.... Dan / M0DFI *** Mine is around 320 MHz. I seriously doubt that the head resonates there, or has much of a resonance to speak of at any frequency. This "range extending of the keyless remote" is easily duplicated by various placements of your other hand, arm and other parts of the body, near the remote. I play with it often walking across the parking lot to the car. It can be best explained considering that being conductive, the body can pick up RF from the fob and be an added part of the antenna in a quasi-parasitic-element manner. The "antenna" in the fob is, at best, an extremely poor one (not being anywhere near 1/4 or 1/2 a wavelength, nor being a loaded antenna that is matched to the transmitter) and any help it gets will frequently be observed as positive. This effect is very dependant on things like polarization of the auto's receive antenna (if there is one with a recognizable polarization), polarization of "you as an antenna", direction (as the transmit pattern will most certainly be directional as well as the receive pattern), and probably innumerable other complexities of the RF environment you happened to be immersed in. Any kind of a conductor can be brought close to the fob and have a similar effect. I've done it with long screwdrivers and pieces of wire. Careful placement of a half wave wire can achieve astounding range....comparatively (to me, anyway, but then, there are those that say I am easily amused). Nerd that I am, it's fun to see how much range you actually can get...just for the bleep of it. I should get a life at times. (:-) Please no agreement. 73, Steve, K,9.D'C;I Oh yea...the origainsl Radar near the office question. Do a search on something like the Russian radar illumination of the American Embassy. I believe there are those that claim the Americans which the Russians were radiating with Radar got irritable or some such symptom(s). 73 |
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Steve,
Your assertion is simply not correct. You may be thinking of particle radiation, such as electron (beta), neutron, proton, alpha, cosmic, etc., but pure photon radiation can certainly be "ionizing". A well-known example is ordinary medical x-rays. Ionizing photons would not typically be called "RF", but there is no difference other than the energy levels. (I spent so much time in the early stages of my career dealing with intense sources of ionizing radiation (photons) that I still glow in the dark.) Back to the original question, ordinary radar is clearly not "ionizing". Not a good idea to be too close, due to possible thermal effects, but otherwise no big deal. 73, Gene W4SZ Steve Nosko wrote: Some thoughts inserted in Dan's comments...*** "Dan Andersson" wrote in message ... First, There are two "kind" of RF radiation, non-ionizing and ionizing and effects emanating from very high voltage nearby different materials. *** Perhaps a typo, but the ionizing type is not a kind of RF radiation. Ionizing radiation is nuclear radiation. This radiation is able to strip electrons (and other particles) from atoms. RF does not do this as we use it. It is unfortunate that we use the term "radiation" for both things. In any case, it is not part of the original question. |
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Gene Fuller wrote:
..., but pure photon radiation can certainly be "ionizing". My ITT "Reference Data for Radio Engineers" says gamma rays are EM waves which are certainly "ionizing". -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp |
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