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Old January 24th 06, 04:48 PM posted to alt.home.repair,comp.home.automation,sci.electronics.repair,rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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wrote:
- how do you actually strip a clean cut twin-lead wire?


Use an Exacto knife to trim away the center insulation
and then use conventional wire strippers.
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Old January 24th 06, 05:11 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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"John McGaw" bravely wrote to "All" (23 Jan 06 21:33:45)
--- on the heady topic of " Connecting 16th century antenna wire to 21st century coax"

JM From: John McGaw
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JM sci.electronics.repair:356301 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:223073
JM found has a male F connector and the most common F connector for coax
JM is also a male so you will probably have to come up with a
JM female-female F adapter to match them up.


In a pinch a little tube type adaptor with 300 ohm pig tails could be
directly soldered to the twinlead. Also a combiner with a 300 ohm port
will typically have a male F.

A*s*i*m*o*v

.... My other vehicle is a Galaxy Class golfball washer...

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Since you have the foam filled stuff it's a little more difficult to
trim away the center so I'd use a utility knife to make a slit along
each side and pull the wires out. Then just cut away the remaining
center carcass. Finally, attach the leads to the wire leads or screw
terminals of the matching transformer.




Thanks everyone for the info. One piece is still missing (at least
for me) - how do you actually strip a clean cut twin-lead wire?
Beachcomber's retelling of his father's method - burn everything
around the wires - sounds good, except that if I do that in the
basement (where the wire terminates and air circulation is minimal) -
the resulting smell will probably be grounds for divorce and a major
violation of zoning regulations

Nevertheless, I'm willing to use that method as a last resort.
Question - is it actually the last resort?



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On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 05:01:30 GMT, (Beachcomber)
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On 23 Jan 2006 19:16:13 -0800, "buffalobill"
wrote:

TN climate may have rusted out your 300 ohm rooftop antenna, making
your old system low quality or possibly useful to a radio.
see hdtv antenna compass directions from entering just your zipcode at:
http://www.antennaweb.org/aw/Address.aspx


That old twin-lead cable reminds me of the setup in our city apartment
building back in 1961. The twin-lead was connected directly to the
back of the TV with screw terminals. Occasionally a wire would break
and it would be necessary to re-attach it. The problem was how to
strip it... The plastic dielectric was the most awful, stiff material
around.

Thankfully my father showed me the way. He lit it with a match and
burned away the plastic from the bare copper wires. I still remember
the drip drip of hot plastic and the nasty smell it produced.

There weren't many stations, just the ABC, CBS, NBC and a struggling
PBS affiliate that ran shows about "math lessons" for educational TV.
There was also one big-city independent station that ran Laurel &
Hardy, Abbott & Costello, the 3 stooges and some fine local children's
programs.

Every few months a tube on the set would go bad. Then we called the
Zenith Repairman who brought no less than 3 giant tube caddies and
filled up the living room with spare replacement tubes when the cases
were open. Later, every drugstore had a tube-tester available and we
could test and sometimes even replace our own tubes.

Beachcomber


It really ****es me off that you cant find tube testers in drug stores
any longer. Whatever happened to "SERVICE". I finally had to buy my
own tube tester and now I have to test them alone in my own home. The
drugstore tube tester used to be a great place to pick up women,
particularly those who had broken tvs. It's no wonder there is so
much violence in today's society. People no longer have a place to
gather and test tubes. It was always a big thrill to watch them light
up, and slowly watch that meter climb into the "GOOD" (green)
zone. That was so much more exciting than all these boring computer
games these kids play these days.

By the way, 300 ohm tv cable will still work if it's still properly
attached to the antenna and the antenna is still intact. To splice
it, strip it back about an inch on each piece. Twist the two wires
and bend them down along side the cable. Wrap with tape. Connect to
tv and see what happens. On newer tvs you will need an adaptor. A
couple bucks at Radio Shack.

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Some matching transformers don't require the 300 ohm wire to be stripped at
all. I don't know if they're still available, but basically, the flat cable
went between two screws. The screws had a "star washer that was shaped like
an inverted bowl. When the screws are tightened, the sharp part of the star
washer would pierce the insulation on the cable and provide a connection to
the inner wires.


-----0-------------------------------------------------------

cable
-----0-------------------------------------------------------


0=screw


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I'm certain everyone is breathlessly awaiting a status report on this
project, so here goes: As suggested, I bought an Xacto knife from the
nearest Radio Shack; I rummaged and found somewhere a balun
transformer. [As an aside, on the balun are inscribed the magic words
"Sega Genesis"! If memory serves, that video game system was
prevalent at the time dinosaurs still roamed the earth, although
dinosaur and video game historians may quibble with the dating.]

I used the knife to strip about ½ inch of the twin lead wire and
embarked on the mother of all kludges: I sort of connected the exposed
twin lead wires to the input of the balun; connected an RG6 coax male-F
to the female-F on the balun; connected the other male-F end of the
cable to the coax input on a Radio Shack Accurian Over-the-Air HDTV
ATSC tuner (now discontinued, but the best $90 I've ever spent);
connected an S-video cable to the S-video out on the tuner and
connected the other end to the S-video in on a Philips RF modulator
(best $8 ever spent); connected yet another RG6 to the coax out on the
RF modulator and the other end to the coax input on an old (about 15-20
year) RCA TV in the basement.

THEN! I turned on the ATSC tuner and the RF modulator and the TV, and
set the TV on channel 3 - and every OTA HDTV station known to man (at
least in my area - western Nassau County, Long Island), was there -
loud and clear! (Well, not so loud - sharp-eyed readers may have
noticed I didn't bother with the audio settings; this was just a test
of the antenna and wire).

So thanks be given to the gods of unknown antenna manufacturers and to
Belden - a 15-20 year old system is still working, with the flimsiest
of setup and no amplifiers! The wonders of technology.

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