Ok so I'm getting back active with my ham gear and while looking into a new
HF antenna, discovered a new cable type being recommended here and there,
RG-213. What is so much better about RG-213 than what I have used so much
of over the years, RG-8?

RG-213 has less loss per 100 ft than RG-8. Nothing too significant though, not
at HF freq's at least. Check out:

http://www.radio-ware.com/products/t...o/coaxloss.htm
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73! de Andy KC2SSB - WPYI880 (GMRS)
Beachwood, NJ USA! Grid FM29vw
http://vhfradiobuff.tripod.com

"VHFRadioBuff" wrote in message
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Ok so I'm getting back active with my ham gear and while looking into a
new
HF antenna, discovered a new cable type being recommended here and there,
RG-213. What is so much better about RG-213 than what I have used so
much
of over the years, RG-8?

RG-213 has less loss per 100 ft than RG-8. Nothing too significant though,
not
at HF freq's at least. Check out:

http://www.radio-ware.com/products/t...o/coaxloss.htm
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73! de Andy KC2SSB - WPYI880 (GMRS)
Beachwood, NJ USA! Grid FM29vw
http://vhfradiobuff.tripod.com

I think you are comparing RG-8X (the mini stuff) to RG-213. RG-8U has lower
lose than 213.

Sorry, I don't mean to be pedantic, but as a new ham myself, I found the
various 8s confusing.

73

Paul AB0SI

I had noticed the same thing, that RG-213 seemed to have very slightly more
loss per foot than RG-8 did. Somewhere I got a feeling that perhaps
RG-213's strength was that it was longer lasting but even that doesn't make
sense for several reasons. I've even noticed antenna kits that include
RG-213 so maybe its just less expensive and they can make higher profits
with RG-213 than they can with RG-8 at the expense of slightly higher loss?

Jerry
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KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
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"VHFRadioBuff" wrote in message
...
Ok so I'm getting back active with my ham gear and while looking into a
new
HF antenna, discovered a new cable type being recommended here and
there,
RG-213. What is so much better about RG-213 than what I have used so
much
of over the years, RG-8?

RG-213 has less loss per 100 ft than RG-8. Nothing too significant
though,
not
at HF freq's at least. Check out:

http://www.radio-ware.com/products/t...o/coaxloss.htm
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73! de Andy KC2SSB - WPYI880 (GMRS)
Beachwood, NJ USA! Grid FM29vw
http://vhfradiobuff.tripod.com

I think you are comparing RG-8X (the mini stuff) to RG-213. RG-8U has
lower
lose than 213.

Sorry, I don't mean to be pedantic, but as a new ham myself, I found the
various 8s confusing.

73

Paul AB0SI

RG-213 is also rated for somewhat higher power than RG-8.

Off the subject, but....

Last week I had an interesting QSO with a gentleman who runs nothing but
hard line -- and SERIOUS hardline at that. His jumpers are LHR 600 -- he
uses lower loss stuff (honest) for his runs. This includes the runs for his
160m and 80m antennas. Now, there is a person who does not like loss.

Paul AB0SI


"Jerry Bransford" wrote in message
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I had noticed the same thing, that RG-213 seemed to have very slightly
more
loss per foot than RG-8 did. Somewhere I got a feeling that perhaps
RG-213's strength was that it was longer lasting but even that doesn't
make
sense for several reasons. I've even noticed antenna kits that include
RG-213 so maybe its just less expensive and they can make higher profits
with RG-213 than they can with RG-8 at the expense of slightly higher
loss?

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

" wrote in message
news:w20Bb.461703$HS4.3603203@attbi_s01...
"VHFRadioBuff" wrote in message
...
Ok so I'm getting back active with my ham gear and while looking into
a
new
HF antenna, discovered a new cable type being recommended here and
there,
RG-213. What is so much better about RG-213 than what I have used so
much
of over the years, RG-8?

RG-213 has less loss per 100 ft than RG-8. Nothing too significant
though,
not
at HF freq's at least. Check out:

http://www.radio-ware.com/products/t...o/coaxloss.htm
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73! de Andy KC2SSB - WPYI880 (GMRS)
Beachwood, NJ USA! Grid FM29vw
http://vhfradiobuff.tripod.com

I think you are comparing RG-8X (the mini stuff) to RG-213. RG-8U has
lower
lose than 213.

Sorry, I don't mean to be pedantic, but as a new ham myself, I found the
various 8s confusing.

73

Paul AB0SI

I think you are comparing RG-8X (the mini stuff) to RG-213. RG-8U has lower
lose than 213.

According to the webpage that I referenced, the differences are as follows:

RG-8X: 0.5dB at 1mhz
1.0 dB at 10mhz

RG-213: 0.2dB at 1mhz
0.6db at 10mhz

The original poster asked about RG-8. No reference to either X or U.
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73! de Andy KC2SSB - WPYI880 (GMRS)
Beachwood, NJ USA! Grid FM29vw
http://vhfradiobuff.tripod.com

"VHFRadioBuff" wrote in message
...
I think you are comparing RG-8X (the mini stuff) to RG-213. RG-8U has
lower
lose than 213.

According to the webpage that I referenced, the differences are as
follows:

RG-8X: 0.5dB at 1mhz
1.0 dB at 10mhz

RG-213: 0.2dB at 1mhz
0.6db at 10mhz

The original poster asked about RG-8. No reference to either X or U.
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I think most would assume he meant for similarly sized cables.

I think most would assume he meant for similarly sized cables.

Since I don't know the physical differences between RG-8, RG-8U, RG-8X and
RG-213, I wouldn't know that he meant similarly sized cables.
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73! de Andy KC2SSB - WPYI880 (GMRS)
Beachwood, NJ USA! Grid FM29vw
http://vhfradiobuff.tripod.com

"VHFRadioBuff" wrote in message
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I think most would assume he meant for similarly sized cables.

Since I don't know the physical differences between RG-8, RG-8U, RG-8X and
RG-213, I wouldn't know that he meant similarly sized cables.
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73! de Andy KC2SSB - WPYI880 (GMRS)
Beachwood, NJ USA! Grid FM29vw
http://vhfradiobuff.tripod.com

This is what I like about Andy...VHF Radio goof. He knows nothing but that
don't stop him from giving his 'advise'.

A MAJOR factor for using 213 is it is Mil-spec.

And it sure isn't new cable.

Dan/W4NTI