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chuck wrote:
So is energy without power really impossible, Cecil? Roy has already answered the basic question from an engineering viewpoint. Physicists often consider "power" to have a different definition than the engineering definition. From the IEEE Dictionary: "power - The rate of generating, transferring, or using energy." (agrees with Roy) From "University Physics" by Young and Freedman: "power is the time rate at which work is done." i.e. only the "using energy" portion of the engineering definition. A certain physicist I know will argue that no work is being done in a lossless transmission line so there is no power there. He will say the existence of 100 watts at 1000 points along the line means there must be 100,000 watts in the line. He will say that a Bird wattmeter doesn't measure watts. He will say that a power generating plant doesn't generate power and a transmission line doesn't transfer power. He will also say that reflected power doesn't exist because it is not doing any work. He will say that for an EM wave in free space, ExH has the dimensions of watts but it isn't power because no work is being done. As Roy indicated, engineers have a wider definition of "power". Energy without power is certainly possible, e.g. a DC battery with zero current. However, for a constant steady-state power level associated with an EM wave, energy and power are inseparable. I like to use a one-second long lossless transmission line in some of my examples because it is impossible to hide the joules. A one-second long line with 200 watts forward power and 100 watts reflected power contains 300 joules that have been generated but have not reached the load. Since EM wave energy cannot stand still (or slosh around side to side) it is only logical to assume that 200 of those joules are in the forward wave and 100 of those joules are in the reflected wave both traveling at the speed of light. -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp |
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