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![]() "Mohd Nazry Bin Mustapa": Anyone know how to make a simple lightning arrester (Homebrew) that really work in case of lightning. "David Robbins": the most basic one is a spark gap. these have been used since the first days of long telegraph lines. just position two sharp pointed metal pieces a small distance apart, connect one side to the cable and the other to a good ground. you want the distance as small as possible, but wide enough so your normal transmission power doesn't create an arc. The usual practice for radio antennas is to place a series capacitor downstream (towards the radio set) from the spark gap to dispense with the DC and low-frequency components of the lightning strike. In crude, fixed-pitch ASCII art, it would look like this: | | Antenna ---------+--------| |----------- To Radio | | | SPARK V Blocking GAP ^ Capacitor | Ground ---------+---------------------- The size of the capacitor is a compromise between not disrupting the RF circuitry and coupling the low-frequecy energy from the strike into the radio. Making the capacitor reactance in the order of a few ohms at the lowest operating frequency generally should work for 50-ohm coax. Jim, K7JEB, Glendale, AZ |
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Antenna ---------+--------| |----------- To Radio | | | SPARK V Blocking GAP ^ Capacitor | Ground ---------+---------------------- PS: The breakdown voltage of the capacitor should be 10 times that of the spark gap. For a 1KV spark gap, that would give 10 KV. JEB |
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K7JEB wrote:
| | Antenna ---------+--------| |----------- To Radio | | | SPARK V Blocking GAP ^ Capacitor | Ground ---------+---------------------- PS: The breakdown voltage of the capacitor should be 10 times that of the spark gap. For a 1KV spark gap, that would give 10 KV. JEB 2uF at 10kV, quite a capacitor. That would be 6 ohms or so on topband. As I understand it, there is nothing that can work if a direct lightening strike occurs. We are talking megavolts and thousands of amps. Way beyond anything an amateur could build. The best we can hope for is to dissipate charge build up on the aerial and ensure that there is no more than a kilovolt or so at the input to the rig caused by the (field) effects of a nearby strike. A spark gap that can conduct a lightening strike would be the size of a small truck. The only way to make sure you have a working station after a lightening strike on your aerials is to take out good insurance. vy 73 Andy, M1EBV |
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Effective lightning protection can be done in the amatuer station for a
reasonable cost. Most though, don't do so. "Andy Cowley" wrote in message ... As I understand it, there is nothing that can work if a direct lightening strike occurs. |
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CW wrote:
Effective lightning protection can be done in the amatuer station for a reasonable cost. Most though, don't do so. My costs have always been reasonable - I unplug the antenna when not in use. I don't use it during thunderstorms. I have lived in extreme lightning areas with zero problems. -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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Cecil Moore wrote:
CW wrote: Effective lightning protection can be done in the amatuer station for a reasonable cost. Most though, don't do so. My costs have always been reasonable - I unplug the antenna when not in use. I don't use it during thunderstorms. I have lived in extreme lightning areas with zero problems. All good stuff, Cecil, but I'd say that was lightening avoidance not protection. I still don't believe there is an effective method of lightening protection for an amateur station that will accept a direct strike and survive. Even your method would probably result in a fried antenna ;-) Hope you never find out! vy 73 Andy, M1EBV |
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Andy Cowley wrote:
All good stuff, Cecil, but I'd say that was lightening avoidance not protection. I still don't believe there is an effective method of lightening protection for an amateur station that will accept a direct strike and survive. Even your method would probably result in a fried antenna ;-) Hope you never find out! I've been back in Texas for about 5 years now and the only thing that has gotten fried was a five-foot-tall live oak tree, the shortest thing around. Go figure. It's still struggling to stay alive with half its branches dead and a burn mark down the trunk. -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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Andy Cowley wrote in message I still don't believe there is an effective method
of lightening protection for an amateur station that will accept a direct strike and survive. There is, but most hams don't do it. Costs money, and everything has to be set up just right. It's done the same way all other 24 hour radio/tv stations, etc do it. How many commercial radio stations have you heard that go off the air when lightning strikes their tower? Not many I bet. We would never have reliable broadcast TV in this town if that were the case.. :/ MK |
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CW wrote:
Effective lightning protection can be done in the amatuer station for a reasonable cost. Most though, don't do so. "Andy Cowley" wrote in message ... As I understand it, there is nothing that can work if a direct lightening strike occurs. How? How do you deal with thousands of amps? It's for certain sure that a simple spark gap will be blown to kingdom come in the first millisecond, so what happens in the next millisecond? and the one after........... I think your method must be untried, untested and 'whistling in the dark'. Andy, M1EBV |
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If it weren't possible, millions of dollars of radio equipment would go up
in smoke every year. There are places that, if you have a tower, you WILL get hit on a regular basis. If you would like to know something about it, do a search on this group for Gary Coughman. Also, take a look at the Polyphaser web site. Before you start accusing someone of not knowing what they are talking about, you would be well advised to ensure that it is not you that is ignorant. "Andy Cowley" wrote in message ... CW wrote: Effective lightning protection can be done in the amatuer station for a reasonable cost. Most though, don't do so. "Andy Cowley" wrote in message ... As I understand it, there is nothing that can work if a direct lightening strike occurs. How? How do you deal with thousands of amps? It's for certain sure that a simple spark gap will be blown to kingdom come in the first millisecond, so what happens in the next millisecond? and the one after........... I think your method must be untried, untested and 'whistling in the dark'. Andy, M1EBV |
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